It is up to the writers really. The readers merely take a natural approach to the characters. Since nothing in Jarvia's personality has implied that she is bisexual, we can safely assume that she isn't. Of course, since it is one of thsoe small irrelevant things, the readers (gamers) are free to interpret it as they like, since it is unlikely to ever be picked up on.
The Architect.
Débuté par
HSHAW
, mai 17 2011 01:54
Retour en haut
#127
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:55
Xilizhra
-
- Members
- 30 873 messages
You can safely assume what you like, really.
#128
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:01
EmperorSahlertz
-
- Members
- 8 809 messages
Indeed. In the case of Jarvia and other minor characters, which won't ever be as well-defined as the main characters. When it comes to the main characters you can't make such assumption as they will be clearly defined. Alistair is straight, and Leliana bi, for instance, to assume anything else would be wrong.
#129
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:08
TobiTobsen
-
- Members
- 3 286 messages
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Indeed. In the case of Jarvia and other minor characters, which won't ever be as well-defined as the main characters. When it comes to the main characters you can't make such assumption as they will be clearly defined. Alistair is straight, and Leliana bi, for instance, to assume anything else would be wrong.
[sarcasm] Just wait for DA3. Suddenly Alistair will lick lampposts, winter or not, to appeal to "a wider audience" [/sarcasm]
Modifié par TobiTobsen, 20 mai 2011 - 12:25 .
#130
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:15
Foolsfolly
-
- Members
- 4 770 messages
That's some funny sarcasm since I'm sure the 'everyone's bi' approach put off as many players as it appealed to.
Or at least net comic strips, forums, and the like for a month or more after release lead me to believe that.
Or at least net comic strips, forums, and the like for a month or more after release lead me to believe that.
#131
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:17
TEWR
-
- Members
- 16 987 messages
Xilizhra wrote...
No, it happens with any origin. It's right before the fight with her in A Paragon Of Her Kind: "Keep the pretty one alive! I have plans for her..."You know I've never played Female Casteless before. It's my most used origin and they're all guys. I've done Noble Dwarf females before but never casteless female...so I have no idea.
...but I'm intrigued enough to run through the origin to see.Bah, boring. Although why would one implied relationship with Beraht disqualify her from being attracted to women as well?I think it is closer to forced prostitution, since Jarvia was straight and all.
Jarvia says that to any Warden. Race and gender are irrelevant. Without Beraht, she's had to go without for a year now. Beraht was the only one that would go near her.
#132
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:27
HSHAW
-
- Members
- 278 messages
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Jarvia says that to any Warden. Race and gender are irrelevant. Without Beraht, she's had to go without for a year now. Beraht was the only one that would go near her.
Isn't she doing Leske if you're a Dwarf Commoner?
#133
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:29
TEWR
-
- Members
- 16 987 messages
HSHAW wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Jarvia says that to any Warden. Race and gender are irrelevant. Without Beraht, she's had to go without for a year now. Beraht was the only one that would go near her.
Isn't she doing Leske if you're a Dwarf Commoner?
don't know... never pushed my DC past Ostagar. Also, I really don't want to kill Leske.
#134
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:33
HSHAW
-
- Members
- 278 messages
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
HSHAW wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Jarvia says that to any Warden. Race and gender are irrelevant. Without Beraht, she's had to go without for a year now. Beraht was the only one that would go near her.
Isn't she doing Leske if you're a Dwarf Commoner?
don't know... never pushed my DC past Ostagar. Also, I really don't want to kill Leske.
True, having to kill him is a kick in the teeth.
#135
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:36
Rifneno
-
- Members
- 12 076 messages
HSHAW wrote...
True, having to kill him is a kick in the teeth.
Howso? I haven't played the dorf origins much, I really don't like them or the Dalish, so I haven't seen how it plays out. But as I read he just betrays you. Why is giving him the traitor's death he deserves a kick in the teeth?
#136
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 12:38
TEWR
-
- Members
- 16 987 messages
I don't really buy that he would betray his own best friend like that because Jarvia made him her personal enforcer/bodyguard/second-in-command.
He's your friend. You could've said upon return that you were taking him to the surface. Why? Either for a better life or as a GW recruit. Would've made more sense because IIRC in the DC origin you could pose that same concept to Duncan at the very end.
He's your friend. You could've said upon return that you were taking him to the surface. Why? Either for a better life or as a GW recruit. Would've made more sense because IIRC in the DC origin you could pose that same concept to Duncan at the very end.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 20 mai 2011 - 12:38 .
#137
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 08:40
Jedi Master of Orion
-
- Members
- 6 912 messages
Rifneno wrote...
Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
Unlikley. The dwarves recorded no end to the darkspawn after any of the Blights.
True, but I take that with a grain of salt. Dwarven culture is made of stupid and anything they don't like is stricken from their "perfect" records/memories. Hence the dwarf noble origin.
I mean people are stupid, but I find it hard to believe that the surface races all thought the darkspawn defeated without them having checked the Deep Roads.
Well sure, but shouldn't the dwarves have been overjoyed to record a repreive in the endless darkspawn attacks?
I figured it was more about the general publics perception, rather than what everyone who investigated the matter thought.
Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 21 mai 2011 - 12:24 .
#138
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 09:55
dragonflight288
-
- Members
- 8 852 messages
I don't really buy that he would betray his own best friend like that because Jarvia made him her personal enforcer/bodyguard/second-in-command.
He's your friend. You could've said upon return that you were taking him to the surface. Why? Either for a better life or as a GW recruit. Would've made more sense because IIRC in the DC origin you could pose that same concept to Duncan at the very end.
But he is Jarvia's lover, bodyguard, and enforcer by the time we return. And those who play the casteless origin should know, anything and everything in order to survive. Survival is the only game played in dust town. Whether it's begging, noble hunting, or the carta. The choices are very slim.
#139
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 10:05
EmperorSahlertz
-
- Members
- 8 809 messages
Leske doesn't betray you anymore than the DC betrays him.
#140
Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:00
TEWR
-
- Members
- 16 987 messages
how the hell does the DC betray him? Leske attacks, you defend. That's not betrayal. That's self-defense.
#141
Posté 21 mai 2011 - 04:41
dragonflight288
-
- Members
- 8 852 messages
And the DC left on good terms with Leske.
#142
Posté 21 mai 2011 - 09:44
EmperorSahlertz
-
- Members
- 8 809 messages
The DC destroys almost the entire orginization Leske has been building with Jarvia while the DC has been gone. Effectively destroying Leske's livelihood. You expect Leske to just walk away while you destroy his life AND threaten his lover?The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
how the hell does the DC betray him? Leske attacks, you defend. That's not betrayal. That's self-defense.
Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 21 mai 2011 - 09:45 .
#143
Posté 21 mai 2011 - 10:04
TobiTobsen
-
- Members
- 3 286 messages
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
The DC destroys almost the entire orginization Leske has been building with Jarvia while the DC has been gone. Effectively destroying Leske's livelihood. You expect Leske to just walk away while you destroy his life AND threaten his lover?The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
how the hell does the DC betray him? Leske attacks, you defend. That's not betrayal. That's self-defense.
Is it still betrayal if you kill/ defend youself against somebody who betrayed you first? It's Leske who lures you into an ambush. He is the one who innitiates his own downfall. Even after my DC Warden was happy to see him again. Even wanted to forgive him his betrayal in Dusttown. He still attacked me.
#144
Posté 21 mai 2011 - 10:28
Foolsfolly
-
- Members
- 4 770 messages
Leske deserves it. I played DC as my first origin and I totally wanted to stay in Dust Town and build a new Carta instead of going with this Warden-thing to stop this 'who-carespawn.'
And when I brought it up with Leske he totally whines and ****es out of building a new Carta. And then we I come back to Orzammar lo and behold Jarvia's living the life my DC should have!
And when I brought it up with Leske he totally whines and ****es out of building a new Carta. And then we I come back to Orzammar lo and behold Jarvia's living the life my DC should have!
#145
Posté 22 mai 2011 - 12:59
dragonflight288
-
- Members
- 8 852 messages
Let's face it. Leske betrayed the DC first.
#146
Posté 22 mai 2011 - 06:01
Bwleon7
-
- Members
- 33 messages
Why do thay have too rape a woman? If a woman willingly had sex with them, would she not still become a broodmother. Now I know must women wouldnt but what if one did.
#147
Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:51
dragonflight288
-
- Members
- 8 852 messages
....I have no answer for that. I'm having a hard time struggling to get that kind of picture out of my head.
#148
Posté 23 mai 2011 - 02:37
Jedi Master of Orion
-
- Members
- 6 912 messages
It's not having sex with darkspawn that turns women into broodmothers. All that is required is they become infected with the taint. If a woman is infected with the taint, and becomes a ghoul she's eventually either die or mutate into a broodmother.
Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 23 mai 2011 - 02:37 .
#149
Posté 23 mai 2011 - 03:29
dragonflight288
-
- Members
- 8 852 messages
Either way, not pleasant. So if the Messenger saved your life and if you're female, you may potentially become a broodmother.
#150
Posté 23 mai 2011 - 06:17
HSHAW
-
- Members
- 278 messages
dragonflight288 wrote...
Either way, not pleasant. So if the Messenger saved your life and if you're female, you may potentially become a broodmother.
Not quite, turning someone into a Broodmother is a bit more complicated than simply being female and tainted, otherwise they would have forbidden female soldiers from fighting Darkspawn (I wonder why they haven't forbidden women from fighting the Darkspawn already, all it means is that you're giving them free Broodmothers if your female soldies get captured).
