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[OSUfan12121]

charmingcharlie wrote...

LGTX wrote...

You should be comparing 4 bucks with the current price for Mass Effect 1.

Ok, lets see ME 1 is available on the PC for £9.99 for your £9.99 you get 30 - 40 hours of game play and the ability to alter ALL the decisions.  Infact during steam sales you could pick Mass Effect 1 up for the same price as this comic. Now lets compare that against a 15 min comic that allows you to only alter 6 decisions.

So are you really trying to tell me that you consider a 15 min comic with only 6 decisions for £3 is better value than a full game with 30 - 40 hours of entertainment where you can alter all the decisions ?  Hell this comic isn't even good value compared to the free tools that are available to alter ME 1 decisions on the PC and 360.

The majority of people who play Mass Effect use a 360 where Steam isnt an option so it is a nice addition. Dont like it dont buy it.

[v_ware]

Why would anyone pay for a pretty yet limited savegame editor?

[PrinceLionheart]

v_ware wrote...

Why would anyone pay for a pretty yet limited savegame editor?

Because it's confirmed to not interfere with importing into ME3.

[charmingcharlie]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

The majority of people who play Mass Effect use a 360 where Steam isnt an option so it is a nice addition. Dont like it dont buy it.

I was talking about steam because I am a PC gamer.  The situation with the Xbox 360 version makes the DLC seem even more of a rip off.  You can actually buy Mass Effect 1 for the Xbox 360 for the princely sum of £7.99 that is only £4 more than this 15 minute comic.  If you pay an extra £4 you get 40 hours of gameplay as opposed to 15 mins of watching a video and the opportunity to alter ALL the decisions in the game as opposed to altering just 6 of them for £3.

If you don't want to play ME 1 on the Xbox 360 to alter those 6 decisions then you don't have too.  You can easily edit your Mass Effect save and tailor a hell of a lot more than just 6 decisions for totally FREE.

[Predi1988]

I allways play ME2 with a ME1 import. Never did a playthrough with a new character, so it's not worth it for me. Even if I would like a new ME2 character, I would use the save game editor, 'cos I am a PC gamer to the core, so I can use that . But anyways, why would anyone begin a new ME2 character without playing through ME1 first is beyond me...

[N7Infernox]

I think I might get this even though I have used Gibbed already. Thanx Bioware.

[PARAGON87]

I would recommend this to someone who doesn't want to go through 40 hrs of Mass Effect 1, but wants a custom Shepard to import into ME2 and ME3, albeit with limited decisions (but critical ones).

[massive_effect]

Curunen wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

This does the same thing as Gibbed's Save Editor, except only six choices and it costs money. I don't really see the logic behind charging money for this.

Was wondering the same. I might buy it eventually, but don't see the point at the moment.

Anyway thanks for making it available - I guess a lot of people will like it.

It should have been updated to support all options. This will be the only DLC that I haven't purchased.

[Red Son Rising]

bought Genesis sight unseen, had to browse official forum to find out how to launch it tho. the only indication it launches after the intro is the modified dialogue between TIMmy and Miranda, [assuming] the shortened conversation wasnt an option in the xbox 360 version until now

[edit clarity + comment]

as for pricing, grow up ppl. most of this thread is full of the kind of comments that ensure devs wont support games going forward. $4 is chump change, ante up already

Modificata da Red Son Rising, 17 maggio 2011 - 08:17 .

[C9316]

charmingcharlie wrote...

OSUfan12121 wrote...

The majority of people who play Mass Effect use a 360 where Steam isnt an option so it is a nice addition. Dont like it dont buy it.

I was talking about steam because I am a PC gamer.  The situation with the Xbox 360 version makes the DLC seem even more of a rip off.  You can actually buy Mass Effect 1 for the Xbox 360 for the princely sum of £7.99 that is only £4 more than this 15 minute comic.  If you pay an extra £4 you get 40 hours of gameplay as opposed to 15 mins of watching a video and the opportunity to alter ALL the decisions in the game as opposed to altering just 6 of them for £3.

If you don't want to play ME 1 on the Xbox 360 to alter those 6 decisions then you don't have too.  You can easily edit your Mass Effect save and tailor a hell of a lot more than just 6 decisions for totally FREE.

Good point, especially if you consider the fact that you are forced to buy more microsoft points than you actually want/need for said purchase. So if you have 0 points and want to get this you'd be spending about $20. Hmm... $20 for a 15 minute comic book???

[Jayngo]

Once agin Bioware let's me down.

Seriously? You want me to pay for that? So much for supporting the fans who ORIGINALLY made Mass Effect so successful. Thanks for crapping on the 360 owners.

My, my, how far the mighty have fallen...

[MattDratt]

I uhhh. You know what, I payed for ME1 so I'll just play that instead. ME1 is still epic

Modificata da MattDratt, 17 maggio 2011 - 08:37 .

[SonvarTheMighty]

While I like the addition I don't understand why it's something that has to be paid for. This came with the PS3 edition along with other DLC. Why not show some kindness to those who originally bought the game for the other systems and let them have this free as well.

[LGTX]

charmingcharlie wrote...

LGTX wrote...

You should be comparing 4 bucks with the current price for Mass Effect 1.

Ok, lets see ME 1 is available on the PC for £9.99 for your £9.99 you get 30 - 40 hours of game play and the ability to alter ALL the decisions.  Infact during steam sales you could pick Mass Effect 1 up for the same price as this comic. Now lets compare that against a 15 min comic that allows you to only alter 6 decisions.

So are you really trying to tell me that you consider a 15 min comic with only 6 decisions for £3 is better value than a full game with 30 - 40 hours of entertainment where you can alter all the decisions ?  Hell this comic isn't even good value compared to the free tools that are available to alter ME 1 decisions on the PC and 360.

I'm trying to tell you that Bioware seem to prefer their fans not to return to a 08 game for £9.99 in order to gain adequate entry to the series. A game which will make you waste tens of hours for a maximum of spoken easter eggs and corner cameos in ME3.


You still look at things from an ME1 player perspective. Newcomers do not care about those little choices. They simply do not.


That's why comparing variable numbers is pointless. Those six are the only story-impacting decisions which matter to a ME2/ME3 player. If you haven't played ME1, sorry for repeating, you won't care about the hundred other choices anyway. 

And you and I both know how much Bioware take fan-made modding tools into account while planning their product strategies.

I still don't see my argument toppled... newcomers have a fast way to experience the first game (disregarding the comic quality) and score a few bonuses for ME3, and core players are in disagreement? Were you even the target audience in the first place?

[wildannie]

Well... I couldn't resist, it's the only way Ashley will ever make it into my ME2 playthroughs. Just started one saving Ashley and killing Wrex... it still pained me.

[The Elite Elite]

Like others have pointed out, given how cheap ME1 is for both PC and 360 I don't get why this a pay-for DLC. Shouldn't this be one of the free DLCs on Cerberus Network? (Isn't that the case for the PS3 version?) It would be a nice option if you wanted to jump into a new ME2 Shep, while having a few of the ME1 choices given to you, but not for $4. (I especially don't understand charging for the PC version, given how there are save game editors you can use for free which let you pick every last option in the game)

[charmingcharlie]

LGTX wrote...

You still look at things from an ME1 player perspective. Newcomers do not care about those little choices. They simply do not.

No I am looking at it from the perspective of a consumer that is being asked to pay £3 for a 15 minute video.  That is what this DLC amounts too.  It is wrong to blatantly accept this and people are right to call Bioware out on this DLC which barely qualifies as DLC if I am honest.  I wonder what Bioware will do next ? perhaps start charging us to see 1 min trailers ?

I know if I was a newcomer to the Mass Effect universe I would be pretty angry that after forking out £20 - £30 for ME 2 I have to fork out yet more money just to edit a save game.  Not the best way to improve customer loyalty if you ask me.

LGTX wrote...
And you and I both know how much Bioware take fan-made modding tools into account while planning their product strategies.

Bioware doesn't even take their own games into account when planning product strategies.  You can clearly see that with the way several ME 1 decisions are not properly flagged for use in ME 2.  So forgive me if I don't believe the "oh this comic will create a 100% safe copy for import into ME 3".  I would say right at this moment the chance of a non-edited ME 2 save working properly in ME 3 are about the same as an edited save.

LGTX wrote...  I still don't see my argument toppled... newcomers have a fast way to experience the first game (disregarding the comic quality) and score a few bonuses for ME3, and core players are in disagreement? Were you even the target audience in the first place?

Newcomers already have a fast way to experience the game, you can watch the comic for free on youtube.  You can then use the free very easy to use (even for the xbox 360) Gibs editor to edit the 6 main decisions which would take all of 5 minutes.

This comic represents nothing but a rip off to customers old and new.  They are charging for a 15 min video with some extremely basic game save customisation.  Actually come to think of it you have to admire Bioware, the fact they even have the balls to do this is pretty amazing really.

Modificata da charmingcharlie, 17 maggio 2011 - 09:17 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

You're charging money for this..WTF happened Bioware you used to be cool.

[zico291]

Who needs a comic when you can play Mass Effect 1. I am trying to do everything in Mass Effect 1. However have found one achievement that I think glitched. Need to get that sorted...

[Euno17]

LGTX wrote...

I'm trying to tell you that Bioware seem to prefer their fans not to return to a 08 game for £9.99 in order to gain adequate entry to the series. A game which will make you waste tens of hours for a maximum of spoken easter eggs and corner cameos in ME3.


You still look at things from an ME1 player perspective. Newcomers do not care about those little choices. They simply do not.


That's why comparing variable numbers is pointless. Those six are the only story-impacting decisions which matter to a ME2/ME3 player. If you haven't played ME1, sorry for repeating, you won't care about the hundred other choices anyway. 

And you and I both know how much Bioware take fan-made modding tools into account while planning their product strategies.

I still don't see my argument toppled... newcomers have a fast way to experience the first game (disregarding the comic quality) and score a few bonuses for ME3, and core players are in disagreement? Were you even the target audience in the first place?

I'm sorry but that's a bunch of crock. That's exactly what Bioware wants you to think. Let's be completely honest here - Bioware will make aton more money for players to buy this 4 USD product that lasts 15 minutes then lets says telling players to play a Full 30-40 hour game (without multi-play throughs) ME1 for 7-10 bucks.

If the only thing they cared about was making it easier for the fans - they'd have made this a free addition to the already vast amounts of DLC for ME2. This is pretty much a SLAP in the face to their loyal customers. Come on now, are people REALLY that lazy/stupid to pay 4 bucks (esp when ME1 is fully available for 7-10 bucks?) for this 15 minute product? 

Come on people, simply for ENTERTAIMENT purposes - ME 1 is FAR more worth the money then this JOKE of a need to pay product.

Bioware is sinking quick. This is horrible.

What's next, are we going to have to get patches through DLC? (Here's patch 1.01 for only 10 bucks!!!!!) Perhaps have to pay extra for the cut-scenes? (Hey guys here's the cutscenes, only 3 more bucks!)

DLC has to be one of the worst ideas I've ever seen in gaming. You want to bring about more content? Make a proper expansion or even better make a sequel. 

I will be pissed if I have to deal with this crap from any other future game with other companies. Like Elder Scrolls, 'oh here's 5 items, all for 4/5 bucks!!!' Get out of here with that b.s.

This nickel and dime crap sucks.

[Alexander Kogan]

I already have the first Mass Effect and I would gladly play that a million times over than pay attention to that incoherent and pointless piece of junk. The art work in Genesis is terrible due to Dark Horse's lack of knowledge in the art and character designs and the plot is riddled with holes and near-retcons that leave out a 3rd of the original game's main story arc and character alterations.

To make this story short and me being a proud owner of the REAL Mass Effect 1, I just have this to say...WHO THE HELL CARES!?

Modificata da Alexander Kogan, 17 maggio 2011 - 09:25 .

[NICKjnp]

They nickel and dime everytime.

[Daveros]

I have to ask, is the comic optional after install? Sometimes I'll want to import ME1 games, and sometimes I'll just fancy a game of ME2 with the comic.

I'll still be able to import and skip the comic, right?

[Razorsedge820]

This is cool and all but I really don't see any reason why I should buy this if I already have a bunch of ME1 save files I can just carry over. IMO it is a little to late to release genesis, if bioware was really smart they would release the collector armor/weapon and terminus armor with the blackstorm heavy weapon.

[Jade5233]

Alexander Kogan wrote...

I already have the first Mass Effect and I would gladly play that a million times over than pay attention to that incoherent and pointless piece of junk. The art work in Genesis is terrible due to Dark Horse's lack of knowledge in the art and character designs and the plot is riddled with holes and near-retcons that leave out a 3rd of the original game's main story arc and character alterations.

To make this story short and me being a proud owner of the REAL Mass Effect 1, I just have this to say...WHO THE HELL CARES!?

I played through ME1 3x as a female--I love it every time (am on my 4th time through).  But I played through once as a mShep and didn't really like the experience that much.  This way, I can have a mShep in ME2 (which is more fun than in ME2 as a guy) without having to use the generic pre-selected choices.  I can have one that romanced Ash as well (I just can't kill Kaidan).
For female characters, I agree.  I'd rather play all the way through and romance Kaidan again.  *happy sigh*  But this helps me have more custom mShep characters.