I have a heavy weapon character, and I'm not too sure which spec to choose from, I usually play mages. Whats the difference between these two, and which do the more damage? Which is a good spec to start out with? Reaver or Berseker? And why. Or is there another?
Whats the difference between a Reaver and a Berseker in DA2?
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NoAngel89
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Posté 18 mai 2011 - 06:20
mr_afk
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Both!
Umm.. the difference is mainly that berserker is mostly comprised of abilities and a sustain, and in order to use those abilities you have to have the sustain active.
Reaver is more just passives with the odd ability and sustain. Damage-wise it's hard to compare..
In other words, berserker almost requires you to have berserk active in order to gain any advantage from it. Berserk will increase your base damage by a reasonable amount (15% of remaining stamina as damage) and grant you access to berserk talents such as barrage; and +50% attack speed is amazing. However this comes at the cost of draining your stamina with each hit. So unless you have a large stamina pool (i.e. pump willpower) you may have troubles with stamina/been able to use abilities. For this reason I would probably recommend reaver first. (Note that using berserk and pumping willpower allows you to reach the highest base damage possible for warriors)
Reaver has some pretty nice passives from the start, such as up to 200% damage (which can be doubled, so up to 400%) inversely proportional to your health. Such that when you're almost dead you'll be pumping out stacks of damage. In addition, later on you'll be able to get a passive which increases your attack speed by 30% for a period after every kill. Since you should be killing things so often you basically have permanent haste. (This means that an almost dead reaver will have the highest +%damage possible for warriors)
Both of these specs have great synergy with each other. Just think of a warrior attacking at +180% attack speed (this is including haste but not the primeval lyrium rune) with up to +500% damage (get cleave/claymore, it's the best) and a really high base attack... that's the dream right? Besides the fact that get such high damages you probably will have to be next to dead. Hmm. Anyway, that's the build I'm aiming towards with my latest S&S playthrough.
But the templar spec isn't completely worthless either. But yeah, it's up to you.
If you decide to go berserker/reaver, here's a good guide
For templar builds I think this one is decent (haven't actually read it yet haha).
I'm assuming you mean 2H by heavy weapon? Otherwise there are some pretty good S&S builds out there as well.
Well hope this helps, good luck with your warrior
Umm.. the difference is mainly that berserker is mostly comprised of abilities and a sustain, and in order to use those abilities you have to have the sustain active.
Reaver is more just passives with the odd ability and sustain. Damage-wise it's hard to compare..
In other words, berserker almost requires you to have berserk active in order to gain any advantage from it. Berserk will increase your base damage by a reasonable amount (15% of remaining stamina as damage) and grant you access to berserk talents such as barrage; and +50% attack speed is amazing. However this comes at the cost of draining your stamina with each hit. So unless you have a large stamina pool (i.e. pump willpower) you may have troubles with stamina/been able to use abilities. For this reason I would probably recommend reaver first. (Note that using berserk and pumping willpower allows you to reach the highest base damage possible for warriors)
Reaver has some pretty nice passives from the start, such as up to 200% damage (which can be doubled, so up to 400%) inversely proportional to your health. Such that when you're almost dead you'll be pumping out stacks of damage. In addition, later on you'll be able to get a passive which increases your attack speed by 30% for a period after every kill. Since you should be killing things so often you basically have permanent haste. (This means that an almost dead reaver will have the highest +%damage possible for warriors)
Both of these specs have great synergy with each other. Just think of a warrior attacking at +180% attack speed (this is including haste but not the primeval lyrium rune) with up to +500% damage (get cleave/claymore, it's the best) and a really high base attack... that's the dream right? Besides the fact that get such high damages you probably will have to be next to dead. Hmm. Anyway, that's the build I'm aiming towards with my latest S&S playthrough.
But the templar spec isn't completely worthless either. But yeah, it's up to you.
If you decide to go berserker/reaver, here's a good guide
For templar builds I think this one is decent (haven't actually read it yet haha).
I'm assuming you mean 2H by heavy weapon? Otherwise there are some pretty good S&S builds out there as well.
Well hope this helps, good luck with your warrior
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Posté 18 mai 2011 - 06:50
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mr_afk wrote...
Both!
Umm.. the difference is mainly that berserker is mostly comprised of abilities and a sustain, and in order to use those abilities you have to have the sustain active.
Reaver is more just passives with the odd ability and sustain. Damage-wise it's hard to compare..
In other words, berserker almost requires you to have berserk active in order to gain any advantage from it. Berserk will increase your base damage by a reasonable amount (15% of remaining stamina as damage) and grant you access to berserk talents such as barrage; and +50% attack speed is amazing. However this comes at the cost of draining your stamina with each hit. So unless you have a large stamina pool (i.e. pump willpower) you may have troubles with stamina/been able to use abilities. For this reason I would probably recommend reaver first. (Note that using berserk and pumping willpower allows you to reach the highest base damage possible for warriors)
Reaver has some pretty nice passives from the start, such as up to 200% damage (which can be doubled, so up to 400%) inversely proportional to your health. Such that when you're almost dead you'll be pumping out stacks of damage. In addition, later on you'll be able to get a passive which increases your attack speed by 30% for a period after every kill. Since you should be killing things so often you basically have permanent haste. (This means that an almost dead reaver will have the highest +%damage possible for warriors)
Both of these specs have great synergy with each other. Just think of a warrior attacking at +180% attack speed (this is including haste but not the primeval lyrium rune) with up to +500% damage (get cleave/claymore, it's the best) and a really high base attack... that's the dream right? Besides the fact that get such high damages you probably will have to be next to dead. Hmm. Anyway, that's the build I'm aiming towards with my latest S&S playthrough.
But the templar spec isn't completely worthless either. But yeah, it's up to you.
If you decide to go berserker/reaver, here's a good guide
For templar builds I think this one is decent (haven't actually read it yet haha).
I'm assuming you mean 2H by heavy weapon? Otherwise there are some pretty good S&S builds out there as well.
Well hope this helps, good luck with your warrior
thanks, and yes its a 2 handed heavy weapon character. So I should get both then, thank you ^^
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Posté 18 mai 2011 - 03:40
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I would say Berserker is better to start out with, since its harder to catch onto if you choose it later in the game.
You need to put 5 points into it so it doesn't run out your Stamina fast, and you also need to get the Bolster ability to get full use of it.
You need to put 5 points into it so it doesn't run out your Stamina fast, and you also need to get the Bolster ability to get full use of it.
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Posté 23 mai 2011 - 06:18
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I've been looking through the forums, and I could not find an answer to this: Does Ferver's attack speed bonus stack? Kill one= +30%, kill two= +60%, kill three= +90% etc... If someone could please reply with an answer that would be great :-).
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Posté 23 mai 2011 - 07:51
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DA Trap Star wrote...
I would say Berserker is better to start out with, since its harder to catch onto if you choose it later in the game.
You need to put 5 points into it so it doesn't run out your Stamina fast, and you also need to get the Bolster ability to get full use of it.
The opposite is true. Your second sentence is the main reason why you shouldn't get Berserker first. You can't use Berserk without depleting your stamina until you can get the upgrade at level 11, and the whole tree depends on Berserk being active. So you get a useless +10 stam regen for 4 levels... yay. Even then you can't ensure stamina repletion until Massacre (lvl 12). Lastly, the talent that ensures you'll maintain stamina is reached at the end of the Berserk tree but isn't available until level 15.
Reaver on the other hand grants instant benefit at level 7 with Blood Frenzy, a situational but useful active at 8, and Sacrificial Frenzy at 9. Fervor is available at 13.
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Posté 23 mai 2011 - 07:53
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SirSponge wrote...
I've been looking through the forums, and I could not find an answer to this: Does Ferver's attack speed bonus stack? Kill one= +30%, kill two= +60%, kill three= +90% etc... If someone could please reply with an answer that would be great :-).
I'm gonna say no, they don't stack. I just don't remember killing 4 or 5 guys with one Scythe then all of a sudden attacking at 150% speed. If you're wondering if it's still worth getting, the answer is absolutely.
