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[Someone With Mass]

Trolls are apparently too retarded to understand the meaning of "optional".

[The Gutted Gnome]

LawLegend1936 wrote...
This was the same format for all the characters that Shepherd could have a romance with for both Male/Female. That is the part that I really don't want to expereince. I don't want to listen and respond to options of the same sex character flirting or hitting on me.

Although this may provoke a huge Equality & Diversity debate -
The answer is easy -

Don't like it, don't buy it.

You can't actually catch a different sexuality.

[jshadow]

I agree to disagree. /thread

[Tripedius]

HolyMoogle wrote...

Tripedius wrote...

I still think it's silly to introduce s/s romances this late in the series. Providing to a small minority of the players still feels like a marketingploy nothing more nothing less. I also think the gaycommunity is way to vocal about it, it should be oke not to have gayness in a game, it's not homophobic to not have it. Also it is totally lacking in the ME universe, there is no reference to it or to the opinion about it (if the majority of the world acceps it in the future or if it still is frown upon by the mayority) and we don't know if the same defect exists in other species. For instance one could reason it is a part of Krogan society (for the lack of fertile females) or the opposite, that it's heavily frowned upon because not working to keep the species alive. Also the chances of having 2-3 human teammates and one of them being gay is pretty slim. As said it's a minority.

- ME does have homosexuality in it already, both the games and the books.
- "Gayness",  as you put it (or would you prefer "teh gay"?), is optional to your Shepard
- Homosexuality is a defect now?

Troll harder phoborific troll.

Didn't read the books, didn't encounter it in the game (I don't count Liara as that is a different case). Luckely it is optional, the way some people go at it, you'd think they want it to be mandatory.

And yes, it's a defect, species survive through reproduction, two men or two women don't reproduce hence it is a fault of nature. And that's purely a scientific take on it, I really don't judge it moraly. As for it in game, I just don't see why everything has to have a gay counterpart, it's like there has to be a gay in there for political correctness. I just get annoyed from all the whining for gay options, if Shep was gay to begin with I wouldn't have whined for a heterosexual Shepard.

[HolyMoogle]

The Gutted Gnome wrote...

LawLegend1936 wrote...
This was the same format for all the characters that Shepherd could have a romance with for both Male/Female. That is the part that I really don't want to expereince. I don't want to listen and respond to options of the same sex character flirting or hitting on me.

Although this may provoke a huge Equality & Diversity debate -
The answer is easy -

Don't like it, don't buy it.

You can't actually catch a different sexuality.

I tried to do a Google Image search for "gay germs" for to hilariously contradict you, but nothing good enough came up.

I feel like a failure now  ...

[HolyMoogle]

Tripedius wrote...
if Shep was gay to begin with I wouldn't have whined for a heterosexual Shepard.

That activates my hilarity unit.

[Saeran]

Tripedius wrote...

I still think it's silly to introduce s/s romances this late in the series. Providing to a small minority of the players still feels like a marketingploy nothing more nothing less. I also think the gaycommunity is way to vocal about it, it should be oke not to have gayness in a game, it's not homophobic to not have it. Also it is totally lacking in the ME universe, there is no reference to it or to the opinion about it (if the majority of the world acceps it in the future or if it still is frown upon by the mayority) and we don't know if the same defect exists in other species. For instance one could reason it is a part of Krogan society (for the lack of fertile females) or the opposite, that it's heavily frowned upon because not working to keep the species alive. Also the chances of having 2-3 human teammates and one of them being gay is pretty slim. As said it's a minority.

Wait... wait a minute. Something here seems wrong to me. I can't think what it is.

And it exists in nature, hence it is natural.

And the point that has been made for all this time is that, there is no option for a male shepard. There IS an option for a female Shepard. If there were no option for a female Shepard I may agree with that one tiny sliver of your post which could be deemed reasonably correct. However that option for F!Shep introduces a double standard, that should of never existed or should be fixed.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Romances weren't forced upon us in the previous two games, I doubt they'll force them now. So get over it or gtfo.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

The Gutted Gnome wrote...

Don't like it, don't buy it.

Here's the root of it.  Right now, you're complaining to the forum dwellers who campaign tirelessly for more homosexual content in Bioware games.  You'd be better off finding people of like mind and getting EA's attention.  Get the word out, and hold fast to your promise not to throw money at Bioware for the things you don't like.

Then, EA/Bioware can decide what's profitable--erm, sorry: what's "right". 

[wolfennights]

Why don't we go one step further and remove s/s relationships from real life? Just like irl, no one is forcing you to be gay. And to force everyone else to be straight is unethical.

[DDK]

Wargamion wrote...

Fixed your post for easier reading, the title may cause some people to come with torches and pitchforks, but I feel that your argument has some good points in it.

You'd be wrong.

[WizenSlinky0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Trolls are apparently too retarded to understand the meaning of "optional".

You don't understand the point of trolls then.

The point of trolls are to ignore the meaning of words that go against their argument for the joy of creating more conflict.

Modifié par WizenSlinky0, 18 mai 2011 - 02:17 .

[Elvis_Mazur]

I, as the OP, am worried at how they are going to handle ******/bisexual character throughout the game.

I do not want to get flirted by a man if I'm playing maleshep, and I do not want the same if I'm playing a femaleshep.

Sure it is in the game now and you guys got what you wanted, but there aren't just you, and if you guys felt uncomfortable with heterosexual flirtations, we also do not want to feel the same with the game.

It is a bonus feature, but it is also an important one.

Bioware better handle it right.

[corporal doody]

i dont mind the inclusion of THE OPTION. this isnt new for bioware. dont like it dont chose the OPTION.

Miranda was made using the modified DNA of her pops. i figure that dna was injected to a blank fertilized egg  or sumthin...maybe testtube grown. why is it impossible for m/m or f/f to donate DNA in order to create a child through what we would consider less than natural means (but probably scientifically feasible circa 2180). The child would be biologically related to the couple...rather the off-spring...100%.  i would think since "traditional procreation" methods are no longer THE only methods of reproduction....society would have loosened up to the point were s/s relations would be of no consequence.
im also sure in vitro fertilization is still around.....

huh...guess my point is ...you cant use the...same sex couples cant reproduce agrument for scifi...unless you say the peeps are marooned on a planet with no science facilities.

Modifié par corporal doody, 18 mai 2011 - 02:25 .

[Russalka]

Why is the idea of a same-sex person flirting with oneself so difficult to handle?

It is not often I see people interested in same-sex romances complain about the opposite gender flirting with them.

[Tripedius]

Saeran wrote...

Tripedius wrote...

I still think it's silly to introduce s/s romances this late in the series. Providing to a small minority of the players still feels like a marketingploy nothing more nothing less. I also think the gaycommunity is way to vocal about it, it should be oke not to have gayness in a game, it's not homophobic to not have it. Also it is totally lacking in the ME universe, there is no reference to it or to the opinion about it (if the majority of the world acceps it in the future or if it still is frown upon by the mayority) and we don't know if the same defect exists in other species. For instance one could reason it is a part of Krogan society (for the lack of fertile females) or the opposite, that it's heavily frowned upon because not working to keep the species alive. Also the chances of having 2-3 human teammates and one of them being gay is pretty slim. As said it's a minority.

Wait... wait a minute. Something here seems wrong to me. I can't think what it is.

And it exists in nature, hence it is natural.

And the point that has been made for all this time is that, there is no option for a male shepard. There IS an option for a female Shepard. If there were no option for a female Shepard I may agree with that one tiny sliver of your post which could be deemed reasonably correct. However that option for F!Shep introduces a double standard, that should of never existed or should be fixed.

Well now that seems off. Some people are born without legs. So this exists in nature, so it's natural but is it a defect? I think so. People are supposed to have legs. Same goes for pedophilia, this actually exists in nature quite a lot. Yet we don't see it as natural. So that argument fails. It's a defect cause this aren't supposed to work that way.
Yeah, the Liara argument. Simply put nature could do without men, it can't do without women. I don't think there is a double standard cause if anything is equiped for child birth we tend to call it female, but the Asari are actuallu neither. But I guess most people tend to think of the Asari as one big lesbian race. But in line with your argument this ccould call for a race of reproducing aliens who look like men not gay options within a race that has both genders. All in all equality is fine, but gay people tend to nag a lot.

[HolyMoogle]

yorkj86 wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

I think you're being much too hard on this guy! Really, I do.

I think we need to have the option in the game for Shepard to be a homophobic ass. I think we also need the option for him to be a racist, for him to hate religions (and make it denominational! I want to give those [DENOMINATION] a piece of my mind!) and most of all, for him to go long, rambling monologues about how Space President Obama's space economic policies are ruining his space gun shop.

Racism is a valid topic in the ME setting.  It was possible to be a racist/xenophobe in ME1, but that option was removed, in ME2.  I think it should be returned.  I really didn't appreciate having to be buddies with Garrus, even if I didn't like him on non-xenophobia reasons.  I also didn't appreciate the game assuming that I knew who Garrus was, in ME2, if I didn't recruit him in ME1.

It let you be xenophobic re aliens, which suggests Shepard simply hasn't spent enough time out in the galaxy rather than being a knowing bigot (as anybody who holds such views about humans in the 21st century is).

Still, if the game is going to let people express political opinions (which it likely won't), let's make sure that we express them in innovative and hilarious ways.

[Cainne Chapel]

*sigh*

This topic again?

Is it really that big a deal? as has been stated it's existed for Femsheps since ME1 (Asari are not male or female arguments aside...) and as with all other relationships its optional. So you dont have to do it.

I really don't get what the argument or worry is? Do you people sit at home worrying that because a character might be written as being gay/bi it'll ruin the story for you? Seriously? Thats what throws you off in a sci fi setting?

*shrug*

[MarchWaltz]

Lesbians are hot.

[Cainne Chapel]

Wait! I just thought of something...

If a male plays a female shephard and has a romance option with say..Kaidan, Jacob, etc etc...

That's basically the same thing right? So we should get of femshep romances for male players and Maleshep romances for female players right?

Or does that not count for whatever reason? Since the end result is the same, your shep just has a different place holder so to speak

[San_OpiA]

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Modifié par San_OpiA, 18 mai 2011 - 02:28 .