The Arishok(sp?) is an enigma wrapped in a conundrum. He claims eleemosynary motives for his assault on Kirkwall but we are the outsiders and thus his ultimate motive is a mystery. Why do you think the Arishok(sp?) decides to seize power if the seizure has not been mandated by the Qun?
I think he does think he is being charitable but that in truth it is contempt and anger speaking when he seizes the Keep. It is the loss of his mandate that drives him to seize Kirkwall of his own will - breaking the Llomeryn Accord. Were Kirkwall a more powerful city, this act of the Arishok could cause a war and as Fenris relates "Qunari do not abandon an agreement." It is out of character and outside of the Qun as far as I understand the information given in game.
Your opinions would be quite appreciated.
The Arishok(sp?) and you
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BluGirl1968
, mai 19 2011 02:53
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Posté 19 mai 2011 - 02:59
DiebytheSword
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I believe he means what he says when he says that he can no longer tolerate the city as it is. The killing of his followers, the killing of people pledging to submit to the Qun, and the general state of affairs that allows the Tome of Koslun to continue to elude him and thus deny he and his men Par Vollen all added up to yet another powder keg situation in Kirkwall going kaboom.
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Posté 19 mai 2011 - 06:05
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If you're forced to spend four years in a city you already dislike, with nothing to do but search for a relic, you're going to be a bit irritable to begin with. That's something to keep in mind. Personally, I'd be a lot more antagonistic from the frustration that situation must cause, so you have to give props to the Arishok for that.
On top of that, he's pestered by merchants that want to use a Qunari invented weapon, a tool of war, merely for profit. Then there's the stealing of the gaatlok, his diplomats being tortured and murdered. That's a lot of stress.
The attack of the Keep was just the boiling point of a lot of problems. The elven converts, and Isabella stealing their relic yet again, was the straw that broke the camel's back. I can understand how the Arishok must have felt.
Kirkwall was infested with people that were only interested in the themselves, with the stupid and the greedy, and the weak. It even affects players themselves, by the end of DA2 I was of the strong opinion that Kirkwall was just a horrible place to live.
From his point of view, I'm sure he thought he was doing something to better the place. By forcing them to submit to the Qun, they could only become a better society. If everyone in Thedas is like Kirkwall was (a huge assumption to make), then what worth is the Accord?
I think a lot of it was from anger, contempt, and frustration with his environment. That was his "Enough is enough" moment. His words to the nobility were good examples of that, and I could empathize. As people suffered, as Hawke knew from being an immigrant, the nobility profitted from it. You needed bribes just to get shelter in the city.
Did he do what was right? I don't think so. But I can empathize, and if I was in his situation I may have tried to burn the city down just because it seemed beyond redemption from those experiences. That should say something to how strong his character was, despite the different viewpoint and values.
On top of that, he's pestered by merchants that want to use a Qunari invented weapon, a tool of war, merely for profit. Then there's the stealing of the gaatlok, his diplomats being tortured and murdered. That's a lot of stress.
The attack of the Keep was just the boiling point of a lot of problems. The elven converts, and Isabella stealing their relic yet again, was the straw that broke the camel's back. I can understand how the Arishok must have felt.
Kirkwall was infested with people that were only interested in the themselves, with the stupid and the greedy, and the weak. It even affects players themselves, by the end of DA2 I was of the strong opinion that Kirkwall was just a horrible place to live.
From his point of view, I'm sure he thought he was doing something to better the place. By forcing them to submit to the Qun, they could only become a better society. If everyone in Thedas is like Kirkwall was (a huge assumption to make), then what worth is the Accord?
I think a lot of it was from anger, contempt, and frustration with his environment. That was his "Enough is enough" moment. His words to the nobility were good examples of that, and I could empathize. As people suffered, as Hawke knew from being an immigrant, the nobility profitted from it. You needed bribes just to get shelter in the city.
Did he do what was right? I don't think so. But I can empathize, and if I was in his situation I may have tried to burn the city down just because it seemed beyond redemption from those experiences. That should say something to how strong his character was, despite the different viewpoint and values.
