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[TEWR]

This is a thread dedicated to all the Kingdom Hearts fans out there. Let's discuss everything there is to discuss: Storyline, characters, theories, strategies, etc..

EDIT -- Here are some gameplay vids and trailers of Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, A.K.A Kingdom Hearts 3D

Kingdom Hearts 3D Gameplay Video #1

Kingdom Hearts 3D Gameplay Video #2

Kingdom Hearts 3D Gameplay Video #3

Kingdom Hearts 3D Gameplay Video #4

Kingdom Hearts 3D Tokyo Game Show Trailer

Kingdom Hearts 3D Jump Festa Trailer

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 14 janvier 2012 - 03:50 .

[Ryzaki]

Yay. Let's discuss the orgaizations names.

I forgot everyone's. *

[TEWR]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yay. Let's discuss the orgaizations names.

I forgot everyone's. *

We have:

• Xemnas --> "Ansem" The Superior of the In-Between
• Xigbar --> Braig The Freeshooter
• Xaldin --> Dilan The Whirlwind Lancer
• Vexen --> Even The Chilly Academic
• Lexaeus --> Aeleus The Silent Hero
• Zexion --> Ienzo The Cloaked Schemer
• Saix --> Isa The Luna Diviner
• Axel --> Lea The Flurry of Dancing Flames
• Demyx --> ??? The Melodious Nocturne
• Luxord --> ???  The Gambler of Fate
• Marluxia --> ??? The Graceful Assassin
• Larxene --> ??? The Savage Nymph
• Roxas --> Sora The Key of Destiny
• Xion --> No. I

[Clover Rider]

KH1 was a cute fun game, KH CoM was fun, KH2 some things got stupid but it was okay at best, KH Stupid Name one for the DS put me to sleep, KH BBS was cool but man the story to the KH games is like Lost at this point.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 mai 2011 - 06:36 .

[TEWR]

what was stupid about KH2 in your opinion?

And I liked the DS game. It shed some light on the lives of the Nobodies and specifically the friendship of Axel and Roxas.

[Clover Rider]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

what was stupid about KH2 in your opinion?

And I liked the DS game. It shed some light on the lives of the Nobodies and specifically the friendship of Axel and Roxas.

Dare I say KH2 had to much JRPG drama and feels less like a Disney game.

More like all it did was shed some light on Roxas and Axel and Whatsherface's friendship but hey all of it is in my opinion.:innocent:

[TEWR]

It wasn't meant to be a Disney game though. It's supposed to be an amalgam of Disney, Final Fantasy, and originality. And KH2 was starting to move towards a more mature setting, which was appropriate given that Disney movies do in fact deal with some mature themes.

Mufasa's murder by Scar (akin to Hamlet) for one.

I understand it's your opinion though. While I don't agree with it, I respect it.

[Clover Rider]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It wasn't meant to be a Disney game though. It's supposed to be an amalgam of Disney, Final Fantasy, and originality. And KH2 was starting to move towards a more mature setting, which was appropriate given that Disney movies do in fact deal with some mature themes.

Mufasa's murder by Scar (akin to Hamlet) for one.

I understand it's your opinion though. While I don't agree with it, I respect it.

No from what I know when Disney got them to make KH1 it was just going to be a Disney game later on as they were making it they put some Final Fantasy pits in it, this is what was KH1 in my view Disney>the originality of it>Final Fantasy.

[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Yay. Let's discuss the orgaizations names.

I forgot everyone's. *

We have:

• Xemnas --> "Ansem" The Superior of the In-Between
• Xigbar --> Braig The Freeshooter
• Xaldin --> Dilan The Whirlwind Lancer
• Vexen --> Even The Chilly Academic
• Lexaeus --> Aeleus The Silent Hero
• Zexion --> Ienzo The Cloaked Schemer
• Saix --> Isa The Luna Diviner
• Axel --> Lea The Flurry of Dancing Flames
• Demyx --> ??? The Melodious Nocturne
• Luxord --> ???  The Gambler of Fate
• Marluxia --> ??? The Graceful Assassin
• Larxene --> ??? The Savage Nymph
• Roxas --> Sora The Key of Destiny
• Xion --> No. I

 
 Thanks for that. 

Xion is No. I? That's...odd. *didn't play the DS game* 

[Jenova65]

I'd hate for it to just be the three of you here.............

[Teddie Sage]

I liked KH1 and KH2 and that's about it. I don't play the spin offs. They annoy me. Something I really hated though was the Little Mermaid musical.

edit: removed the rude comment

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 22 mai 2011 - 12:38 .

[J. Finley]

Luxord ftw.

[Dust_King]

For the names,
Xehanort = another / no heart
 
I was always surprised by how dark the games got, Sora smiling before stabing himself in the heart was one thing that stuck with me, the fact that they had a kid willing to die, to kill himself, for a friend was something that changed my view of the game.

I also quite like the idea that the orginization are not all bad people, Larxene mentioning not wanting her heart back because all she remembers is suffering. Lexaeus being a fallen hero. Axle and Saix was another thing I found quite mature for the game, dealing with a friendship which just evaporated is not what I expected.

The little mermaid musical was just bad (especially since I still have some of the songs stuck in my head) and the pooh sections are a bit dull but my only real peeve with the series is Kairi. I'm getting sick of her being the damsel in distress, I just hope she gets the chance to actually contribute something to 3 other than just sitting round needing to be rescued.

[TEWR]

Some Geth wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It wasn't meant to be a Disney game though. It's supposed to be an amalgam of Disney, Final Fantasy, and originality. And KH2 was starting to move towards a more mature setting, which was appropriate given that Disney movies do in fact deal with some mature themes.

Mufasa's murder by Scar (akin to Hamlet) for one.

I understand it's your opinion though. While I don't agree with it, I respect it.

No from what I know when Disney got them to make KH1 it was just going to be a Disney game later on as they were making it they put some Final Fantasy pits in it, this is what was KH1 in my view Disney>the originality of it>Final Fantasy.

do you have a source or something for that? I've never heard this before.

Ryzaki wrote...
 Thanks for that. 

Xion is No. I? That's...odd. *didn't play the DS game* 

Oops. Yea it's a pretty heavy spoiler regarding Xion's story, but I won't give specifics.

Teddie Sage wrote...

Excuse me Jenova but talk for yourself.

I liked KH1 and KH2 and that's about it. I don't play the spin offs. They annoy me. Something I really hated though was the Little Mermaid musical.

Unlike most video game spin offs, I love the KH series' ones because they all deal with the main story which to me makes them not spin-offs but main series games. All other video game series' spin offs just had no relevance. But I do understand how people dislike them. My nephew and I are huge KH fans and he wants them to stop and just make KH3, which Nomura has said he hasn't had much time to devote to due to FF and Dream Drop Distance. But he's said that there will be a III and I believe that Dream Drop Distance is the last game before KH3.

DDD is going to have Sora and Riku take their Mark of Mastery exams, which will be essential for fighting Xehanort, eventually Master Xehanort, and rescuing people that are connected to Sora.

Dust_King wrote...

For the names,
Xehanort = another / no heart
 
I was always surprised by how dark the games got, Sora smiling before stabing himself in the heart was one thing that stuck with me, the fact that they had a kid willing to die, to kill himself, for a friend was something that changed my view of the game.

I also quite like the idea that the orginization are not all bad people, Larxene mentioning not wanting her heart back because all she remembers is suffering. Lexaeus being a fallen hero. Axle and Saix was another thing I found quite mature for the game, dealing with a friendship which just evaporated is not what I expected.

The little mermaid musical was just bad (especially since I still have some of the songs stuck in my head) and the pooh sections are a bit dull but my only real peeve with the series is Kairi. I'm getting sick of her being the damsel in distress, I just hope she gets the chance to actually contribute something to 3 other than just sitting round needing to be rescued.

Ah yes the Xehanort name. One of my favorite things. Interestingly, in the Final Mix scene where Xemnas is in Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, he goes to the computer and types in "Another" and the original names of the six apprentices

Yea even Kingdom Hearts was pretty dark with that example you gave being a particular one. I loved playing as a Shadow though.

Regarding the Organization: agreed.

And yea the Little Mermaid musical was not needed. I liked Atlantica back in KH because we could fight Heartless and Ursula, but when they made it a musical I died a little inside. And then even more when I heard Donald sing. Stupid Octoduck.

Kairi however is now able to wield her own Keyblade (won't go into spoilers how she is able to for those who haven't played BBS) so I doubt she'll always be the damsel in distress.

And how could you dislike Winnie the Pooh's world?!

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 19 mai 2011 - 12:23 .

[KenKenpachi]

Let it be known far and wide I hate Kingdom hearts Mainly for what it did to the Cid I had a fitting picture for this alas I can't find it atm...

And **** Mickey Mouse >> For he's a War Mongorer as proven by the USMC.
 

As My friend once said a whole Generation has grown up in Vietnam seeing Mickey as the Avatar of Death.

(And no I'm not serrious about some of this)

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 19 mai 2011 - 02:13 .

[Clover Rider]

http://en.wikipedia....ts_(video_game)

See Development, it sounds like it was just going to be a Disney game to me.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 mai 2011 - 04:43 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

i loves KH xD I need MOAR!

[TEWR]

@KenKenpachi I have no idea what you mean by your Cid comment.

@Some Geth: It definitely wouldn't have been a success though. I'm glad they did what they did.

@NamiraWilhelm: look up the Dream Drop Distance trailer and when it shows gameplay you will be happy.

[KenKenpachi]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

@KenKenpachi I have no idea what you mean by your Cid comment.

@Some Geth: It definitely wouldn't have been a success though. I'm glad they did what they did.

@NamiraWilhelm: look up the Dream Drop Distance trailer and when it shows gameplay you will be happy.

Ah they just ruined him and most of the FF7 group. I mean we go from a smoking SIT YOUR ASS DOWN IN THAT CHAIR AND DRINK YOUR GOD DAMN TEA pilot.  To a kid friednly  "Oh I love the children!" pansy. They ruined him and much of the rest of the cast. The picture I had in mind had basically both of the cid's on the right is KH Cid, on the left is FF7 Cid. The former says in a bubble "Oh I love the Children and its nice to meet you!" The real Cid goes "CHILDREN? WHAT THE **** HAVE THE CHILDREN EVER DONE FOR ME!? AND WHO THE HELL ARE YOU!?"

Now which sounds like the real one?  KH was nothing more than a shameless money grab, that butherd one of the Few RPGs that as a Kid I loved and has imo ruined the franchise. I mean hell Mickey ****ing mouse, armed with a sword killing ****? I'm sure Walt is rolling in his grave.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 19 mai 2011 - 09:49 .

[Jenova65]

Edited because I like Teddie now 

Modifié par Jenova65, 22 mai 2011 - 12:49 .

[Jenova65]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

i loves KH xD I need MOAR!

I love it too......... It's why I popped on here.......... 
Edited

Modifié par Jenova65, 22 mai 2011 - 12:50 .

[Wicked 702]

Lance Bass voiced Sephiroth in KH1! *swoon* And did a damn good job of it.

And I'm not even gay...

[TEWR]

Wicked 702 wrote...

Lance Bass voiced Sephiroth in KH1! *swoon* And did a damn good job of it.

And I'm not even gay...

A lot of people didn't like him voicing Sephiroth, but that was just due to him being a former member of N'Sync. If he had never been a part of them, then people wouldn't have reacted so harshly.

He did say the lines well, but honestly the voice just didn't work for Sephiroth. He still did a good job though.

And.... and.... is that Zero in your sig?! Zero's a badass

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 19 mai 2011 - 10:31 .

[TEWR]

KenKenpachi wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

@KenKenpachi I have no idea what you mean by your Cid comment.

@Some Geth: It definitely wouldn't have been a success though. I'm glad they did what they did.

@NamiraWilhelm: look up the Dream Drop Distance trailer and when it shows gameplay you will be happy.

Ah they just ruined him and most of the FF7 group. I mean we go from a smoking SIT YOUR ASS DOWN IN THAT CHAIR AND DRINK YOUR GOD DAMN TEA pilot.  To a kid friednly  "Oh I love the children!" pansy. They ruined him and much of the rest of the cast. The picture I had in mind had basically both of the cid's on the right is KH Cid, on the left is FF7 Cid. The former says in a bubble "Oh I love the Children and its nice to meet you!" The real Cid goes "CHILDREN? WHAT THE **** HAVE THE CHILDREN EVER DONE FOR ME!? AND WHO THE HELL ARE YOU!?"

Now which sounds like the real one?  KH was nothing more than a shameless money grab, that butherd one of the Few RPGs that as a Kid I loved and has imo ruined the franchise. I mean hell Mickey ****ing mouse, armed with a sword killing ****? I'm sure Walt is rolling in his grave.

well if we're lucky Cid will have a more mature image in the upcoming games since it's shifting to more mature themes. There wouldn't be cursing, but he might have his cig back and maybe talk with an attitude.

But if you think about it, these weren't meant to be the same FF characters we know. It's like a parallel universe's FF characters with a different persona.

I also disagree immensely with the "it's a shameless money grab" comment.

[Wicked 702]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

A lot of people didn't like him voicing Sephiroth, but that was just due to him being a former member of N'Sync. If he had never been a part of them, then people wouldn't have reacted so harshly.

He did say the lines well, but honestly the voice just didn't work for Sephiroth. He still did a good job though.

And.... and.... is that Zero in your sig?! Zero's a badass

His voice worked well for me because this was Sephiroth in the context of a Disney-ish cartoony game. But I certainly see where he wouldn't have been a good fit in a darker atmosphere.

....Zero is the ultimate badass.

Modifié par Wicked 702, 19 mai 2011 - 10:43 .