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Man, I love Kingdom Key. It's not the look on the outside, it's the power within. Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D are some of the strongest, story-wise, keyblades there are.

If it's not reflected in the gameplay as well it's kind of wack. I'd like to like the Kingdom Key but not only does it look dull compared to some of the others it's also one of the weakest keyblades Sora has gameplay wise.

I'm okay with the gameplay thing, since it is the first one that you recieve. I'll concede on looks, but Kingdom Key is proabaly just as strong as any of the other keyblades if not stronger, that others have. The keyblades that Sora uses, forms aside, are all still the Kingdom Key. 

I'm not so sure it works like that. I mean, when Roxas fights Axel in the mansion in Twilight Town he doesn't summon two Kingdom Keys, he summons Oblivion and Oathkeeper. Sora shouldn't be any different, he just happens to summon a lot more keyblades (gameplay wise).


In the final level of 358/2 Days, Roxas summons two Kingdom Key keyblades that then transform into Oblivion and Oathkeeper as the Neoseeker Heartless surround him.

One keyblade is Sora's. The other is Ventus'. At first, Roxas could only use one because the part of him that contained his memories became Xion, thus he couldn't use Sora's, but he could use Ventus' because he still had Ventus' heart. Once Xion became a part of Roxas again, he could use both keyblades. When Sora duel wields, he's using Ventus' keyblade along with his own, but otherwise, they are all Kingdom Key. 

EDIT: Oblivion and Oathkeeper form because Roxas gains Sora's memories of Riku and Kairi respectively. The whole "My friends are my power," thing should be taken quite literally in this case. 

I swear this is saying what I've been getting at, that the Keyblades are wholly different. I don't know, I've been looking at it like Locke's sock or however the theory goes. Replace enough parts through constant patchwork and you start to wonder if what you started with is truly the same.

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But they had Leonard Nimoy for Birth By Sleep too -- Plus Christopher Lee voiced Ansem for like 3 lines in 358/2 Days so that doesn't make sense.


Yeah, I feel the same way. Christopher Lee was perfect for Ansem the Wise. While Corey Burton is awesome in his own right as Ansem the Wise -- indeed, his voice isn't that far off from Christopher Lee's natural voice, though it's still noticeably different -- Christopher Lee is forever embedded in my mind as AtW.

Just like how Billy Zane is forever embedded to me as "Ansem", Seeker of Darkness. Richard Epcar is an amazing voice actor and one of my favorites hands down -- and I'm not saying he shouldn't be the SoD -- but Billy Zane's voice just fit so well with the SoD that it's really hard to look at the SoD and not see Billy Zane.



Perhaps he just became too obsessed with Darkness?

Anyway, I really do want Lee back as Ansemn, mostly because I'd like to seperate Ansem from Yen Sid, since Burton's voice sounds relatively the same for both of these characters. Make each of them distinct and Lee is just awesome. :D

Also, the man is old now. I'd hate to lose him before he can do Ansem one more time, like how Wayne Allwine managed to do Mickey in the remake of Chains of Memories before he passed away.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Galactic Runner wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Man, I love Kingdom Key. It's not the look on the outside, it's the power within. Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D are some of the strongest, story-wise, keyblades there are.

If it's not reflected in the gameplay as well it's kind of wack. I'd like to like the Kingdom Key but not only does it look dull compared to some of the others it's also one of the weakest keyblades Sora has gameplay wise.

I'm okay with the gameplay thing, since it is the first one that you recieve. I'll concede on looks, but Kingdom Key is proabaly just as strong as any of the other keyblades if not stronger, that others have. The keyblades that Sora uses, forms aside, are all still the Kingdom Key. 

I'm not so sure it works like that. I mean, when Roxas fights Axel in the mansion in Twilight Town he doesn't summon two Kingdom Keys, he summons Oblivion and Oathkeeper. Sora shouldn't be any different, he just happens to summon a lot more keyblades (gameplay wise).


In the final level of 358/2 Days, Roxas summons two Kingdom Key keyblades that then transform into Oblivion and Oathkeeper as the Neoseeker Heartless surround him.

One keyblade is Sora's. The other is Ventus'. At first, Roxas could only use one because the part of him that contained his memories became Xion, thus he couldn't use Sora's, but he could use Ventus' because he still had Ventus' heart. Once Xion became a part of Roxas again, he could use both keyblades. When Sora duel wields, he's using Ventus' keyblade along with his own, but otherwise, they are all Kingdom Key. 

EDIT: Oblivion and Oathkeeper form because Roxas gains Sora's memories of Riku and Kairi respectively. The whole "My friends are my power," thing should be taken quite literally in this case. 

I swear this is saying what I've been getting at, that the Keyblades are wholly different. I don't know, I've been looking at it like Locke's sock or however the theory goes. Replace enough parts through constant patchwork and you start to wonder if what you started with is truly the same.

Well that's a good point too. I'm just saying at their core they are one and the same. I don't quite get how keyblades work or how both Sora and Ventus can possess individual keyblades either. BBS made things a bit confusing for me. 

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The Ice Titan is quite unforgiving.

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The Ice Titan is quite unforgiving.

Yeah those successive ice spears...

He killed me a bunch of times. Better than fighting Phantom though

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I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP

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I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP



All you need is guard and cure, don't use aero as that will make his shards stronger.
Simply guard the ice shards back to his head and hammer him when he finally gets stunned.
Rines and repeat till he's dead oh and try to stay on the stands. Get an 80% resistance on Ice, having ice resistance really makes most of his attacks a joke. Of course
you still have to deal with the high frequency of attacks, especially
at low HP, but having a high ice resistance allows for a lot more room
for errors.

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I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP

That's what I fought him on too. Well, "Expert", which is most likely Proud Mode's equivalent before it existed. The right equipment is necessary for that fight. I couldn't beat him when I wasn't thinking about the kind of attacks I was dealing with so I could deal with it properly.

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I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP



All you need is guard and cure, don't use aero as that will make his shards stronger.
Simply guard the ice shards back to his head and hammer him when he finally gets stunned.
Rines and repeat till he's dead oh and try to stay on the stands. Get an 80% resistance on Ice, having ice resistance really makes most of his attacks a joke. Of course
you still have to deal with the high frequency of attacks, especially
at low HP, but having a high ice resistance allows for a lot more room
for errors.

What's the best equipment for Ice resistance? Not sure I got much, mostly stuff that resists darkness or fire.

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I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP



All you need is guard and cure, don't use aero as that will make his shards stronger.
Simply guard the ice shards back to his head and hammer him when he finally gets stunned.
Rines and repeat till he's dead oh and try to stay on the stands. Get an 80% resistance on Ice, having ice resistance really makes most of his attacks a joke. Of course
you still have to deal with the high frequency of attacks, especially
at low HP, but having a high ice resistance allows for a lot more room
for errors.

What's the best equipment for Ice resistance? Not sure I got much, mostly stuff that resists darkness or fire.

Blizzaga Rings

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TheChris92 wrote...

Ser Galv wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

I tried today. Couldn't get him. I simply run out of MP too fast due to his annoying ice spikes. The fight depends on precision and the ability to quickly dodge most of his attacks. I need more elixirs for it, I think. As soon as I finish him off I aim to level up for Sephiroth. After that I'll go for Xemnas, Kurt & the others. Doesn't help that it is Proud Mode. Makes it all extra hard xP



All you need is guard and cure, don't use aero as that will make his shards stronger.
Simply guard the ice shards back to his head and hammer him when he finally gets stunned.
Rines and repeat till he's dead oh and try to stay on the stands. Get an 80% resistance on Ice, having ice resistance really makes most of his attacks a joke. Of course
you still have to deal with the high frequency of attacks, especially
at low HP, but having a high ice resistance allows for a lot more room
for errors.

What's the best equipment for Ice resistance? Not sure I got much, mostly stuff that resists darkness or fire.


Farm for Blizzara Rings, they're dropped by Blue Rhapsodys. Or just buy them, and equip on e for each of Sora's equipment slots.

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Gets Ice Titan down to green bar in health = Dies from Ice Spike spam
*cue The Beatles* "All I feel is Rage, rage.. Rage is all I feel."

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Gets Ice Titan down to green bar in health = Dies from Ice Spike spam
*cue The Beatles* "All I feel is Rage, rage.. Rage is all I feel."


Master Xehanort would be proud.

Though why not Rage Awakened?

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I imagine Sephiroth is gonna spark even more rage, rage in me -- Supposedly. Xemnas isn't so bad as he seems though. And speaking of Xehanort. Still looking forward to the next collection. Being able to play Birth By Sleep & Final Mix 2.. All of my yes.

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I really hope they can give the BBS trio capes, since it'll be remastered for the PS3.

Somehow, seeing Terra/Lingering Sentiment without the capes just feels... wrong.

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Truest of truth - The actual fighting scene in the game was kinda underwhelming in comparison to the Secret Movie from BBS. Vanitas striking Terra with lighting, and Ven with blizzard, while surfing on a bunch of keyblades. Bad-ass.

Also - What happened to the part about Aqua, Terra & Ven respectively picking up the Kingdom Key, Kingdom Key D & Riku's Way to Dawn blade? Were they merely to preconcept what would happen to them individually? Aqua getting trapped in darkness, Ven sleeping in the realm in between etc. And Vanitas spawned from Xehanort in that video, a shadow in his image. I guess things change, but the video sort of alluded to Vanitas being a part of Xehanort.

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Cannot believe that they changed Axel's most awesome line ever in the remake of 'Chains of Memories'. :I
Axel: Now, Sora! Naminé! Riku! Marluxia! Larxene! It's about time you gave me one hell of a show!

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Guarding in KHII is a lot more difficult then I remember. I suspect the enemies just have more complicated attack patterns.

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Is that the title of the newest game in the Kingdom Hearts series?

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Is that the title of the newest game in the Kingdom Hearts series?

Nah that would be da Triple D's one.

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Oh.

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Oh.

Dream Drop Distance. The touch screen features are pretty uneventful but moments where you have to use them aren't constant. Should've just come out on PS3 or something. That would be too easy for Square Enix though. They love milking the handheld cash cow when it comes to Kingdom Hearts

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Oh.

Dream Drop Distance. The touch screen features are pretty uneventful but moments where you have to use them aren't constant. Should've just come out on PS3 or something. That would be too easy for Square Enix though. They love milking the handheld cash cow when it comes to Kingdom Hearts


I thought Disney did DDD

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Oh.

Dream Drop Distance. The touch screen features are pretty uneventful but moments where you have to use them aren't constant. Should've just come out on PS3 or something. That would be too easy for Square Enix though. They love milking the handheld cash cow when it comes to Kingdom Hearts


I thought Disney did DDD

Nah, still just Square. Apparently Disney co-developed the 2.5 HD remix. At least, I saw that somewhere. Not sure if it was true. 

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Well I do know that DDD would've been on 2.5 HD Remix if Nintendo wasn't being jerks