But in 3DS it was explained that apparently worlds never get destroyed, but 'put to sleep?'.
Not so. Worlds do get destroyed, but after Sora sealed Kingdom Hearts and brought the worlds back some of them weren't
completely brought back and were thus sleeping.
The actual Kingdom Hearts is behind the door, as far I know, unless they confirmed in one of the side-games that it was but an artificial gathering of all hearts like in KH2.
Both were valid means to attain Kingdom Hearts, through different means. No one knows what Kingdom Hearts is precisely other then the light, but there are many different ways to create it, the common theme between them being hearts.
I think my problem with the story is that there are no threads that helps integrate these revelations that the director keeps pulling out of nowhere with every game, like say with the stuff about Xion below here.
3DS actually has a feature that allows you to understand a lot of the previous games' elements. Memoirs, IIRC. Explanations of past characters, plots, etc.
The process of encoding a heart is incalculable. It's so much more than any system.
True, but Vexen wasn't encoding a heart into Xion. It seems I was wrong on Xion though. She was a replica created from Roxas by Vexen, and a lot of her memories are the result of this creation. Because she was a replica born from Sora's Nobody Roxas, memories leaked into her (the Keyblade, Kairi, etc.) and this is why she has Sora's memories.
This also influences how people see her. Roxas and Axel begin to see her as her Kairi-esque self, while Xigbar sees her as Ventus. Saix sees her as just a hollow puppet.
Let's also remember that Ansem is not the be-all, end-all authority. He's as prone to error as we are. After all, if data couldn't have a heart, why does Tron exhibit emotions and show he has a heart?
That said, Ansem's quote refers more to how it's foolish to assume you can understand a heart's limits, because the heart has NO limits. He was thoroughly convinced the Data TT inhabitants would behave in a way he thought and envisioned. They didn't. They still exhibited free will and emotions, which shocked him to the core.
The point is that you can't understand the heart, because the heart is beyond mortal comprehension. Data itself can create a heart (again, Tron, who is a program yet feels emotions). Axel even says that the Riku Replica managed to gain a sense of self in the Secret Reports of Days. Vexen even classifies them as being special forms of a Nobody, rather then simply "data".
She can feel emotions, but they aren't supposed to be hers but that of someone else. That was what was established with the Nobodies, and I just hate the fact that it is now a fact; That they can 'grow hearts of their own'.
Her memories of those emotions help her to understand emotions, not feel another person's emotions. Eventually, those understanding of emotions became real emotions, and she could grow a heart because of it. That was what KHII told us, through Saix, and DDD told us through Xemnas' reveal.
"True we don't have a heart. But we remember what it's like. That's what makes us special".
Other material in KHII and Re:CoM told us that they do this so they can simply
remember what it was like, because they don't think they can have genuine emotions of their own. And in Re:Chain and the original Chain of Memories, Axel felt an actual emotion and caught himself in the moment, expressing surprise.
It was something I picked up upon immediately, foreshadowing how Nobodies can grow their own hearts. This wasn't the only moment. Axel's entire story in KHII is laden with emotions and Roxas shows rage, sorrow, and acceptance of his fate.
What aren't hers are the original memories she had. But those, as I said, influence some of her actions and as she lives she gains her own memories which go back to her having emotions of her own, thus creating a heart.
And yet he did, apparently. In 3Ds it was explained that the whole idea behind the Organization was to scatter the hearts of Xehanort into 13 vessels. Which means he must not have forgotten, otherwise he could have not seen this plan through; It's all there in the opening cutscene of that same game. When he was characterized as a 'Nobody' cast off from the original Xehanort in KH2 who wished for a of his own; That's where I found him sympathtic. In BBS I can understand that the idea is that Xemnas is the part that looks like Terra, whereas Xehanort looks more like a Young Xehanort. The thing is though that Terra wasn't a character that existed during the time of KH2, so I don't count that quote as any relation to him.
But Terra
did exist during KH2. Final Mix anyway, where you fight his Lingering Sentiment. And Xigbar says in both FM and the reg. version that Sora isn't anything "like the others", implying Terra, Ven, and Aqua. And of course, Final Mix showed him visiting Aqua's armor, calling it "friend".
Xemnas doesn't remember his previous life as Terra. As Xehanort sure. If we assume Xehanort was one of the 13 vessels (likely) then he was present in the gathering in 3D, which explains his understanding of the 13 vessels bit. He doesn't need memories of his time as Master Xehanort to know what's going on. Remember, Xehanort is essentially another name for Terranort, since it's their union.
A concept that should have been introduced in KH2, where the Nobodies were in the spotlight --
It was touched upon a lot in some subtle moments in Re:Chain and shown all throughout KHII. Days further added more to it with the Organization's time in the limelight.
It also beckons the question of why Xehanort needed to throw his heart away in first place.
IIRC, he didn't NEED to. He was just curious to see if a person could banish their heart from their body and retain their sense of self. Additionally, I believe it was to also give them better control over the darkness to create their vessels. People lost to the darkness and strong of will were suitable vessel material, because he could then put MX's heart in them.
Xemnas wasn't necessarily lying when he said they'd get hearts again. They would just have been Nort'd instead of getting their original hearts back. By having them believe they were always without a heart, he had them distance themselves from genuine connections which would've allowed them to grow a heart through emotions, and thus were always empty (save for Axel, Roxas, and Xion).
While it's possible to corrupt a heart into being suitable (like was done with Xigbar, due to his scarring from MX and his final moments as Braig), this method was easier. It allowed him to just insert -nort into them like a CD in a disc drive.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 21 novembre 2013 - 01:47 .
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