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I don't see how your argument counterpoints mine though? Am I supposed to be surprised that there are people on Youtube who actually didn't like the game or something? I'm basically saying that in regards to critics an non-critics alike, a lot of people did actually like the game. Your hatred of KH2 is noted though so carry on with that if you must.

My hatred?

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-5.html

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-2.html

 

Again, my hatred?

 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.

 

Still want to put critics in your argument?



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Kingdom Hearts plot basically becoming Final Fantasty-esque is well established because it is just as unncessarily confusing and overtly complex as any recent titles in that series now.

 

Well, yeah, but that was mostly post-KH2. When they started doing prequel **** and all that.

 

KH2 was pretty basic, and had a sensible (and decent) lead-in via Chain of Memories. You had your initial obvious enemies, but it was pretty obvious that Org 13 was the true threat all along.

 

 

I still say my biggest gripe about the game as a whole was not enough Riku, though. I thought his rivalry/friendship/jealousy undertones in KH1 were pretty good, and I was a sucker for the redemption arc angle, but most of that got booted into DDD.

 

 

Anyway, what I liked about Kingdom Hearts 2 was that it introduced new characters, that had some actual duality added unto them, which was a welcome addition, alongside the expected Disney content we got as well. More Nightmare Before Christmas is always good in my book.

 

 

Haloween Town was always my favorite world. It was right at that sweet spot in the first game of being both challenging but also the point at which you were really unlocking all your powers for the feeling of a good fight. Plus, it was an adventure fighting through everything. In KH2 it was also good.

 

I think a flaw of KH2 was that the Maleficient arc dropped hard, though. The Darkspawn were really just aimless filler for the most part, getting in the way of the real fight.

 

As for duality... well, like I said. Not enough Riku.



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My hatred?

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-5.html

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-2.html

 

Again, my hatred?

 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.

 

Still want to put critics in your argument?

 

lol

 

this guy.



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My hatred?

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-5.html

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-2.html

 

Again, my hatred?

 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.

 

Still want to put critics in your argument?

Ooooooooh, are doing this? Well, alright, I'll indulge you for a moment then if only to pass the time. Gameinformer gave it a 9/10, It was named Best Sequel by Electronic Gaming Weekly, you have people in this very thread being surprised as to the claims that "people hated KH2". So, I pass the ball to thou. What kind of futile proposition are you trying to reach here?

 

The only one who's projecting spew here is you.



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Gameinformer gave it a 9/10, It was named Best Sequel by Electronic Gaming Weekly, you have people in this very thread being surprised as to the claims that "people hated KH2". What kind of futile proposition are you trying to reach here?

 

The only one who's projecting spew here is you.

Hey I'm not the one who brought critics into the discussion, you were. I couldn't care less about critics. I wanted my info to come from Nomura and KH fans. People here are surprised because they weren't aware that people disliked the game, not because it is untrue.

 

Yes I am alone here, but this is a just Bioware forum. I don't care if I'm alone or not. I'm just replying to people who thought KH2 was either the best in the series or was a complete success to Square and theie fans. Square Enix/KH forums are more populated than this forum, bet I wouldn't be alone there. People on this forum don't like Dragon Age: Inquisition and Gamefaqs forum posters call Bioware fans whiny crybabies.

 

What I'm saying is just because I'm alone here doesn't mean I stated false claims. There are bigger forums that would agree with me.

 

You can think what you want and people may agree with your comments. But I can do the same elsewhere.



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My hatred?

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-5.html

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-2.html

 

Again, my hatred?

 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.

 

Still want to put critics in your argument?

Oh sh*t, DA2 is SUBJECTIVELY (from a different reviewer than whoever reviewed KHII I'm guessing) better than KHII? That seals the deal.



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Hey I'm not the one who brought critics into the discussion, you were. I couldn't care less about critics. I wanted my info to come from Nomura and KH fans. People here are surprised because they weren't aware that people disliked the game, not because it is untrue.

 

Yes I am alone here, but this is a just Bioware forum. I don't care if I'm alone or not. I'm just replying to people who thought KH2 was either the best in the series or was a complete success to Square and theie fans. Square Enix/KH forums are more populated than this forum, bet I wouldn't be alone there. People on this forum don't like Dragon Age: Inquisition and Gamefaqs forum posters call Bioware fans whiny crybabies.

 

What I'm saying is just because I'm alone here doesn't mean I stated false claims. There are bigger forums that would agree with me.

 

You can think what you want and people may agree with your comments. But I can do the same elsewhere.

The reverse is true as well, so I ask you again, what is your point? I brought critics and people alike into the discussion because it was relevant in regards to discussing the reception for the game.. then you act like a child when I actually offer examples of critics who has an opposite opinion from yours and anyone who might agree with you. Where is the logic in that, I ask? 

 

What you're doing here is just projecting your own restrained-spousal-relationship with this game, while trying to back it up with other arbitrary opinions you found on the net, to pass it out as some sort of universal truth. That is what I consider a discussion rendered futile and not worth pursuing.



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KHIII needs more Waluigi

 

Still waiting for Pooh and Eeyore permanent companions.


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With the best stats.



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Waluigi's World Theme



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The reverse is true as well, so I ask you again, what is your point? I brought critics and people alike into the discussion because it was relevant in regards to discussing the reception for the game.. then you act like a child when I offer examples of critics who has an opposite opinion from yours and anyone who might agree with you. Where is the logic in that, I ask? 

I wasn't acting like a child. I gave you fan opinions and you brought up critics (people who get paid for positive reviews). Critics shouldn't be part of the discussion if they don't tell you their actual opinion.



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I wasn't acting like a child. I gave you fan opinions and you brought up critics (people who get paid for positive reviews). Critics shouldn't be part of the discussion if they don't tell you their actual opinion.


 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.
 

Still want to put critics in your argument?

Then what do you call this then?

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Then what do you call this then?
 

If you read the first 5 words you bolded under the vid, you will see that I brought critics up because YOU acted like they mattered. They mean nothing to me.



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If you read the first words you bolded, you will see that I brought critics up because YOU acted like they mattered. They mean nothing to me.

That's not what you wrote though -- You phrased IGN's example because they granted a nummerically lower score than that of DA2, making it convenient for you to somehow use that as a counterpoint to my argument (BECAUSE DA2 IS A BAD GAME BY UNOFFICIAL UNIVERSAL STANDARDS AND THUS MY ARGUMENT IS VALID!). If it didn't matter to you at all then you wouldn't have brought it up, now would you? Such hypocrisy.



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My hatred?

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-5.html

 

http://forums.khinsi...everyone-2.html

 

Again, my hatred?

 

I've been putting up info from their #1 fans and you still act like a lot of people like it. Heck, you talk about critics, do you know what IGN gave it? A lower score than Dragon Age 2, a game most people here claim was awful.

 

Still want to put critics in your argument?

Is that not what I said?

 

The overall story of Kingdom Hearts is a mess, and while that's been said and done it doesn't apply to KH2 necessarily being a bad game -- Also, implying that Nomura wants to blame someone for KH2 sucking when I'm pretty sure it was well received by critics and a lot of people alike (like myself) is silly, and it raises the question as to whether it isn't just your own restrained-spouse-like-relatioship with the game that is being projected here.

Is that not what you said?

 

Now go look for any of my post before you said that and see if I ever mentioned critics. Like I said, I mentioned them for YOU. YOU were talking about their scores so I brought that up. Had nothing to do with me stating my claim. I already have Square and their fans for that.



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Oh, bother.



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For me it's

 

Kingdom Hearts 2 >>>>>>>>> Kingdom Hearts 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> Dragon Age 2

 

I'm not really sure what's going on though so....



#920
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Kingdom Hearts II is literally one of my favorite games of all time. I don't care if IGN thought it was worse than DAII, (which isn't that terrible anyway) it's amazing. I actually got II.5 recently, and I've been playing Final Mix.

 

It held up super well.

 

Also, Pooh Bear. Thank you Geth. 


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Winnie the Pooh>Every KH game and every DA game.


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Also.

 

Kingdom Hearts?

 

Where the f**k is Darkwing Duck?!


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#923
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Don't say things like that. I don't need the internal struggle right now. 


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#924
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Winnie the Pooh is unironically awesome.

 

Anyone that disagrees is lame.



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Come on KH3!

 

Let's get dangerous!


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