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Phaedon

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I was stalking Casey Hudson once again, simultaneously, with Twitter, the Conf. Features thread, and Wikipedia. 

 

As the Project Director on the New York Times' 2007 "Game of the Year" Mass Effect, Casey led a team in the development of an ambitious game set in an all-new science fiction universe, which pushed the boundaries of interactive cinematic storytelling and advanced digital actors. His most recent title, Mass Effect 2 (2010), has received over 70 perfect “10/10” review scores[3], and is the highest-rated game in the 28-year history of Electronic Arts. [4]


The "GOTY record breaker" was pretty impressive itself, although no big sites acknowledge it.

Now, this, this is impressive.

Good job to everyone behind these two games, keep up with the same quality for the third one!

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AdmiralCheez

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Niiiiiiice.

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But it isn't their best game ever.

That one belongs to Battlefield 1942 or Battlefield 2 for the PC.

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Good job BW! Keep the awesome games coming!

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Wow, that is impressive. It's even more exciting seeing as ME3 is going to build on ME2's and ME1's strengths.


I feel that ME1's clunky combat pushed many people away from the incredible storyline, and ME2 remedied that, though leaving behind RPG elements, and now ME3's going to be a glorious marriage of them both.

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It's going to be delicious. -Zim

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Not even EA can destroy Bioware.

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Phaedon wrote...
The "GOTY record breaker" was pretty impressive itself, although no big sites acknowledge it.


Yup, spot on. This will make other people acknowledge ME, and sooner than you say 'tomato salad', ME has taken over the world.

*laughs all maniacally*

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Look I like Mass effect as much as everyone else here and the theoretical perfect scores I would agree with.

I say would agree with because the rating system is a scam. It is not a valid measurement of video games. Every game (at least all the major companies) receive great scores from review sites.

Because companies like EA threaten to not let them preview future games if they give bad scores. Until things change where reviewers are not punished for telling the truth then game reviews should be deemed as untrustworthy and not worth the paper they are printed on (digital or not)

That said Yes The mass effect series is as close as I've seen games come to deserving perfect ratings.

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I'm sorry, I've gotta point out that a bunch of sites gave DA2 10/10 too. If that isn't a huge red flag that the ratings for EA games starts at 7, and gets 3 extra points if the game boots, I don't know what is.

Then there's the huge mess with Oblivion and Fallout 3. A ton of sites called Oblivion flawless, then the Fallout 3 previews applauded how it would fix the flaws that they originally claimed didn't exist in Oblivion.

Nevermind the sites that are starting to talk about "Review embargos" and how some companies will prevent them from posting reviews until after Day 1 unless the reviewer says they're giving a sufficiently positive review.

The whole thing is completely meaningless at this point. There's no integrity in the gaming press anymore, just a bunch of people trying to get the go-ahead for a Day 1 review and access to previews so they can keep traffic up and make more money.

Seriously, last year saw...

-Red Dead Redemption, the first modern Western, and the first to ever capture the wide open west feeling.

-Starcraft 2, anticipated for a decade.

-Grand Turismo 5, the first GT on the PS3.

-Dead Rising 2, which broke X-box live arcade records for it's prequel.

But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?

Yeah, in a few years when the gaming press and gaming companies get ripped apart for anti-consumer behavior, we'll be reading about how ME2 and DA2 got the ratings they did.

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Phaedon wrote...

 the highest-rated game in the 28-year history of Electronic Arts. [4]


That is impressive. Feels warm around my heart. :)

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Gatt9 wrote...
But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?

Yeah, in a few years when the gaming press and gaming companies get ripped apart for anti-consumer behavior, we'll be reading about how ME2 and DA2 got the ratings they did.

Try to appear less subjective,extreme, elitist and non-factual when you attempt at dropping the "EA is paying the reviewers omg" bomb next time.

Modifié par Phaedon, 19 mai 2011 - 08:04 .


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Gatt9 wrote...

But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?


I challenge you to play Mass Effect 2 for 30 minutes and then Gears of War for 30 minutes and say to me same thing again.

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Gatt9 wrote...

-Red Dead Redemption, the first modern Western, and the first to ever capture the wide open west feeling.

-Starcraft 2, anticipated for a decade.

We are agreed here, both of these games are incredibly astounding. But why ME2 and more importantly, ME3 will be always be slightly better than both of these games is the level of character interaction, and the fact that you can carry your shepard through these games and have the universe be reactive. The level of save import that Mass Effect is doing hasn't been before.


Also, keep in mind that GOTY awards take console games into higher account than PC exclusives because of their greater availability.


-Grand Turismo 5, the first GT on the PS3.

That's just a racing game to me, and unless they change their mold, I don't think racing simulators should ever will GOTY.

-Dead Rising 2, which broke X-box live arcade records for it's prequel.

I think Xbox Live Arcade games belong in an entire category altogether. Games like DishWasher:VS and Limbo are beautiful creative wonderful games but due to their length, depth lacking simply from production value level, they belong in another category.

But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?
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And this is where it looks like you've got tunnel vision. Lets see what you sum up ME2 to be:

1. Gears of War clone

Why? because cover is essential in combat? God forbid that should be a reality. It's far better than floating guns ala Counter Strike strafing all over the place. It's not remotely realistic. Battle positioning and cover is paramount in gun warfare and as it should be, it is of high importance in ME2. It's far more challenging and fun to navigate battlefields using cover than to simply bob and weave through open ground (lets not even bring up Immunity) while enemies are using mass accelerator guns with auto targeting systems.

2.Linear cover ridden level design


An honest complaint, but it isn't nearly important enough to say that the game isn't deserving of the many awards which it's gotten. Mass Effect is great because of the sum of its parts.

3. Inconsistent Story

This is just an infinitely debatle point, and one that I'll not go into aside from saying that looking across the breadth of Video Game stories, it's fair to say even with the heaviest bias that it's pretty good

And yet with you summary of ME2, you forget to list a great many things, such as Character Interaction, Conversation system of Mass Effect, Save import feature, dynamic battle system with the 3 pillars of Combat, Tech and Biotics, Power evolutions, Audio FX, Cinematic production, Armor customization (albeit no squad armor), Character depth, Voice Acting, Great music.

It's easy to pick your favorite nasty features and dig into them and leave out everything else that makes your argument less sensational but it's never honest to do so.

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ME2 deserves to be EA's highest rated game ever! no matter what!

Modifié par Vez04, 19 mai 2011 - 08:07 .


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And it is definitely impressive if you take a look at what EA developed and released "back in the day".

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Always love positive threads like this until the Debbie Downers come into the thread to disagree.

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Phaedon wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...
But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?

Yeah, in a few years when the gaming press and gaming companies get ripped apart for anti-consumer behavior, we'll be reading about how ME2 and DA2 got the ratings they did.

Try to appear less subjective,extreme, elitist and non-factual when you attempt at dropping the "EA is paying the reviewers omg" bomb next time.


i dont agree with phaedon.

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wow, EA's highest rated game, that is pretty impressive when you consider the scale of a company like EA.

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The Spamming Troll wrote...

i dont agree with anyone.


Fixed.

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scyphozoa wrote...

wow, EA's highest rated game, that is pretty impressive when you consider the scale of a company like EA.


It is very impressive. EA is a collossal publishing giant.

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Phaedon

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Sparroww wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i dont agree with anyone who slightly likes ME2.


Fixed.

Fixed again.

Anyway, here is a list of 'competitors' http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games

Anyone care to count these? :P

Modifié par Phaedon, 19 mai 2011 - 08:16 .


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Well if all goes well ME3 should exceed ME2 in terms of setting records and achieving success, of course we won't find that out 'till 2012.

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Phaedon wrote...

Sparroww wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i dont agree with anyone who slightly likes ME2.


Fixed.

Fixed again.

Anyway, here is a list of 'competitors' http://en.wikipedia....onic_Arts_games

Anyone care to count these? :P


I'll pass.

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Gatt9 wrote...

But Mass Effect 2, a game that tries to be Gears of War but ends up just being a linear walk from one waist-high wall to the next, that lacks the RPG the box claimed was inside, and has huge consistency problems with it's story is the greatest game of the year?

Yeah, in a few years when the gaming press and gaming companies get ripped apart for anti-consumer behavior, we'll be reading about how ME2 and DA2 got the ratings they did.


First, that is purely your own opinion. Mass Effect 2's battles may be lacking in some areas (I didn't like how linear they were either) but it was still a great game with fun combat, and sure it was lacking in RPG fetures as well but does that really ruin the whole game? (Personally I thought presentation was ME2 strong suit)
Really the only main plot inconsistency comes with Arrival, but the game is still a great experience none-the-less.

As for the reviews (I didn't play DA2 nor do I care to (sci-fi>fantasy for me)) You can't just assume all reviewers are biased/bribed.

 Besides a good way to get around those problems is to find groups who are either to small to be worth bribing, like private low member groups or simply ask people who have played the gams and are not members of websites like this (where groupthink changes how people actually believe) and you'll find, overwellmingly, more good reviews than bad.