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[ShadowStar83]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The important thing to take from the source tweet isn't that there will be a DA3 (which is no surprise really) but that they are increasing the size of the envioronmental team.
Which more specifically means they're directly addressing the complaints about recycled maps.

If that's the case, it's a start. They could've decided to ignore the complaints. Hopefully the end result is good, too.

[Corto81]

BY-TOR STORMDRAGON wrote...

CAN'T we finish DA:2 FIRST, BIOWARE??? IT'S HALF-ASSED DONE!!!

DAII is beyond saving but not beyond redemption.

If they make a kick-ass DA3, all will be forgiven, and my BW love will come back in spades.

Hopefully, Witcher 2 and Skyrim make for a good motivator to build on Origins and not go stale.

[Esbatty]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

Yesssssssssss... I am most excited!

...

C'mon, someone post the "Meanwhile in Orlais" pic.

Its... magnificent.

[ShadowStar83]

 

Xewaka wrote...
I guess not enough people cried abbout the crippling gameplay/story segregation for them to hire people to attend that

Maybe they simply haven't gotten to that part yet.

Drasanil wrote...

I want Hawke to return too, as a lootable corpse complete with a proper story on how that failure met an ignoble death at the hands of crippled dwarven trannies in a back alley of some hell hole.

 That's so cruel, but hilarious at the same time!

Modifié par ShadowStar83, 20 mai 2011 - 06:55 .

[Riloux]

I hope we don't hear anything about it for at least 2 years. Then again, we'll probably be getting a preview next week..

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

There's one post I really like and made me really laughed so hard.

"Wait till they do Dragon Age 3, this sequel will take place on a two-floor house."

Hilarious.

[ShaggyWolf]

The fact that they're hiring level designers is a good sign. Here's to hoping they spend a lot more time/effort developing DA3.

All things considered though, I'm kinda excited. I don't believe BW would make the same mistakes twice.

I just hope I can be a Qunari this time

[Drachasor]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The important thing to take from the source tweet isn't that there will be a DA3 (which is no surprise really) but that they are increasing the size of the envioronmental team.
Which more specifically means they're directly addressing the complaints about recycled maps.

And does that fix the story problems?  Because every act is pretty short on story.  Act 2 is probably the best, but hardly ANY of it has to do with the main story of act 2 (unlike, say, gathering any of the allies in DA:O).  The ancient Thaig...you never really find out anything about it, despite being inside it with a whole expedition.  The skimpiness of the story and lore is another huuuge factor that makes DA2 pretty crappy.  You spend the vast, vast majority of time doing side quests that are uninspired and have no connection to the main plot (compare to DA:O where side quests were things that were along the way with the main plot).

I mean, heck, DA2 doesn't even have a coherent story.  Besides the main characters, very little connects the acts together.  Definitely the worse Bioware game EVER as far as story goes.

So yeah, they've magically learned recycling maps like in ME1 doesn't make people happy.  Oh WAIT, they said they learned that as part of ME1!  Gah, they must really think their current customers are stupid.

I for one, am not buying any Bioware game on release anymore.  The company has become something I don't trust.  It's a dang shame.

[Robhuzz]

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

[Drachasor]

Filament wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Also, Bring Hawke Back!

Brace yourself, snark attack incoming!

I think Hawke was a fine character in concept.  However, I dislike how Bioware has seemingly decided that you shouldn't have a lot of say in designing the main character anymore.  None of their major RPGs (and no, MMORPGs don't count) are going to have you pick your race and other aspects of your character.  DA seems to have gone the way of ME, where you are given a character and just have some ability to determine how he acts.  I think it is a shame that is how the games are going.  The worset part is DA doesn't even do much of anything with the story that depands on the particular background Hawke is given.  Pretty lame.

Anyhow, the character concept of Hawke was fine, complaints about the direction of the games aside.  The story just sucked.

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

Me too, I won't be buying on-release Bioware games anymore after Mass Effect 3 specially if it is another Dragon Age iteration.

[Drachasor]

Robhuzz wrote...

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

Yeah, because the thing I look for in a poor game is the company trying to get every last penny out of the customer via DLC.  It's nice to know they are planning on making more of that ridiculously overcharged content.  Maybe you'll get a halfway decent story if you spend $120 dollars on DA2 + DLC.

DLC disgusts me.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Robhuzz wrote...

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

Couldn't agree more.

I'm also curious what the marketing team will dream up this time  
Oh well... here's hoping it takes at least 2 years.

[Lindum]

Bioware need to take their time developing, Dragon Age 3 in order to make it as awesome as Dragon Age Origins.

Dragon Age 2 was a huge disappointment and I have no desire to play as Hawke again.

For Dragon Age 3. I would like a new protagonist with the option to chose your race.

[Cody211282]

Khayness wrote...

Dragon Age 2 ending confirms Dragon Age 3!

Yea it did, it also confirmed that there was no point to DA2.

[Robhuzz]

Drachasor wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

Yeah, because the thing I look for in a poor game is the company trying to get every last penny out of the customer via DLC.  It's nice to know they are planning on making more of that ridiculously overcharged content.  Maybe you'll get a halfway decent story if you spend $120 dollars on DA2 + DLC.

DLC disgusts me.

That's one way of looking at it I suppose, but since DA2's story isn't finished I'd still like to see it finished in either DLC or an expansion, though obviously I'd rather have a good expansion pack than several (albeit cheaper) DLC.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 20 mai 2011 - 07:27 .

[Halo Quea]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The important thing to take from the source tweet isn't that there will be a DA3 (which is no surprise really) but that they are increasing the size of the envioronmental team.
Which more specifically means they're directly addressing the complaints about recycled maps.

That's sure is encouraging to hear, but I still have to ask what exactly were they thinking?!  Did they really think we weren't going to notice how they handled environments in DA2? 

Bioware- "We'll just keep using this dungeon over and over again.............they'll never know" 

[Drachasor]

Robhuzz wrote...

Drachasor wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

Yeah, because the thing I look for in a poor game is the company trying to get every last penny out of the customer via DLC.  It's nice to know they are planning on making more of that ridiculously overcharged content.  Maybe you'll get a halfway decent story if you spend $120 dollars on DA2 + DLC.

DLC disgusts me.

That's one way of looking at it I suppose, but since DA2's story isn't finished I'd still like to see it finished in either DLC or an expansion, though obviously I'd rather have a good expansion pack than several (albeit cheaper) DLC.

DA2 isn't finished because they made a rushed, buggy, poorly fleshed out game.  Now you want to pay them more money for what should have been in the game to begin with?  How does that make financial sense?  It's only worse that you are hoping for DLC which just makes it all the more expensive for a decent story (to say nothing of the fact of how DLC almost never integrates well into the main story, unless it is something they cut out of the game just so they could sell it to you for extra money).

Game companies prey on attitudes like yours to convince you to toss good money after bad and spend 10 bucks on content that is at best worth 2.

[Robhuzz]

Halo Quea wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The important thing to take from the source tweet isn't that there will be a DA3 (which is no surprise really) but that they are increasing the size of the envioronmental team.
Which more specifically means they're directly addressing the complaints about recycled maps.

That's sure is encouraging to hear, but I still have to ask what exactly were they thinking?!  Did they really think we weren't going to notice how they handled environments in DA2? 

Bioware- "We'll just keep using this dungeon over and over again.............they'll never know" 

I think it was more like:

EA: "I want this game released in 18 months!"
BioWare: "But that can't be done!"
EA: "I don't care! Just recycle some, no... ALL maps over and over"
BioWare: "But the fans don't like stuff like that.."
EA: "Who cares about fans? It's all about money. Now get to work!"

[Drachasor]

Halo Quea wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The important thing to take from the source tweet isn't that there will be a DA3 (which is no surprise really) but that they are increasing the size of the envioronmental team.
Which more specifically means they're directly addressing the complaints about recycled maps.

That's sure is encouraging to hear, but I still have to ask what exactly were they thinking?!  Did they really think we weren't going to notice how they handled environments in DA2? 

Bioware- "We'll just keep using this dungeon over and over again.............they'll never know"

The best part is how the map shows all those passages that aren't even used in the current retread.  It's hilariously bad.

[ZeroDragon980]

 Well it is nice to know that there will be a DA3. Now to wait and see whether it will be worth the buy or not. I'll wait till I can rent it like I did with DA2.
I do hope that they make the environments a little more immersive, heck I hope even the dialog is better, and depending on the story they decide to tell its bit more in depth.
Hmmm.... Tevinter Imploding into a giant smoking crater at the end sound fun. lol   :innocent:

[Robhuzz]

Drachasor wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Drachasor wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

As long as EA backs off and doesn´t demand an insanely short development time, DA3 is going to rock no matter what. *Crosses fingers*
I'm still counting on DLC or a proper expansion pack for DA2 though...

Yeah, because the thing I look for in a poor game is the company trying to get every last penny out of the customer via DLC.  It's nice to know they are planning on making more of that ridiculously overcharged content.  Maybe you'll get a halfway decent story if you spend $120 dollars on DA2 + DLC.

DLC disgusts me.

That's one way of looking at it I suppose, but since DA2's story isn't finished I'd still like to see it finished in either DLC or an expansion, though obviously I'd rather have a good expansion pack than several (albeit cheaper) DLC.

DA2 isn't finished because they made a rushed, buggy, poorly fleshed out game.  Now you want to pay them more money for what should have been in the game to begin with?  How does that make financial sense?  It's only worse that you are hoping for DLC which just makes it all the more expensive for a decent story (to say nothing of the fact of how DLC almost never integrates well into the main story, unless it is something they cut out of the game just so they could sell it to you for extra money).

Game companies prey on attitudes like yours to convince you to toss good money after bad and spend 10 bucks on content that is at best worth 2.

Have you thought about the fact that maybe I did like DA2 and although I will not deny it had it's flaws (actually several) mostly due to a way too short dev time, I would very much like to see this story finished. Provided the issues DA2 had will be resolved in DLC or an expansion. And even though not much can be concluded from the tweet on which this entire topic is based, hiring 3D artists shows BioWare is trying to do just that -- resolving mistakes that were made in DA2.

[TEWR]

Drachasor wrote...

Filament wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Also, Bring Hawke Back!

Brace yourself, snark attack incoming!

I think Hawke was a fine character in concept.  However, I dislike how Bioware has seemingly decided that you shouldn't have a lot of say in designing the main character anymore.  None of their major RPGs (and no, MMORPGs don't count) are going to have you pick your race and other aspects of your character.  DA seems to have gone the way of ME, where you are given a character and just have some ability to determine how he acts.  I think it is a shame that is how the games are going.  The worset part is DA doesn't even do much of anything with the story that depands on the particular background Hawke is given.  Pretty lame.

Anyhow, the character concept of Hawke was fine, complaints about the direction of the games aside.  The story just sucked.

So you have one game with a set character and one game with Origins and you think they're always doing set characters? yea...... you're basing a lot off of DA2.

[Drachasor]

Robhuzz wrote...

Drachasor wrote...

DA2 isn't finished because they made a rushed, buggy, poorly fleshed out game.  Now you want to pay them more money for what should have been in the game to begin with?  How does that make financial sense?  It's only worse that you are hoping for DLC which just makes it all the more expensive for a decent story (to say nothing of the fact of how DLC almost never integrates well into the main story, unless it is something they cut out of the game just so they could sell it to you for extra money).

Game companies prey on attitudes like yours to convince you to toss good money after bad and spend 10 bucks on content that is at best worth 2.

Have you thought about the fact that maybe I did like DA2 and although I will not deny it had it's flaws (actually several) mostly due to a way too short dev time, I would very much like to see this story finished. Provided the issues DA2 had will be resolved in DLC or an expansion. And even though not much can be concluded from the tweet on which this entire topic is based, hiring 3D artists shows BioWare is trying to do just that -- resolving mistakes that were made in DA2.

Even you acknowledge the story wasn't properly done though, right?  So you want to pay them more money to do what they should have done from the start?  That's pretty much the definition for throwing good money after bad. 

And the only thing we are hearing is about recycled environments, btw, nothing about fixing the story, dialogue, choices, or other problems.

And I don't give them sympathy points for a short dev time.  That's doesn't excuse a bad game, but merely explains it.  This isn't something that accidentally happened to Bioware; as the lead designer of DA:O said they've been wanting to shorten development time a lot before EA came into the picture.