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[TGFKAMAdmaX]

Well it is no different then fans of origins flaming Da2 with bad scores just because it wasnt origins instead of taking it as its own game.

[PaulSX]

I still honestly give the witcher 2 8/10 on metacritic and wrote a review for it, and I am a bioware fan

[Dragoonlordz]

Doesn't really make much difference what the DA2 fanatic's do on metacritic is will still outsell DA2.

[addiction21]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Doesn't really make much difference what the DA2 fanatic's do on metacritic is will still outsell DA2.

So everyone that spammed DA2 with 0's on metacritic were objective and rational people?

[corebit]

Metacritic is actually very useful, but you have to learn how to filter the good reviews from the bad.
1. Don't pay attention to the final score, it's an average from so many scores from so many different sources, that it tends to end up too vague and inaccurate
2. Ignore user reviews for the most part, there are a few gems inside that give good objective reviews, but mostly drowned by lots of 10s and 0s.

I tend to read several critic reviews from different sources to form a general opinion. I never trust one single source 100%, but if several magazines and editorials ALL say the same thing, then it is most likely true, unless of course you are into tin-foil hat conspiracies and think they are all bought and paid for.

[Dragoonlordz]

addiction21 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Doesn't really make much difference what the DA2 fanatic's do on metacritic is will still outsell DA2.

So everyone that spammed DA2 with 0's on metacritic were objective and rational people?

Don't know and don't really care much as I never use metacritic. As for who did whats and whys~

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.  - Mahatma Gandhi.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 mai 2011 - 02:33 .

[bussinrounds]

Rockworm503 wrote...

If you take Metacritic seriously thats your own problem.

Exactly.   Don't pay attention to that nonsense.

[Fishy]

Internet hate can grow to extreme proportion.It's just really a small group of individual (Both side) that are very but very noisy .Sadly it's was mostly DA2 hater .

People forgot fast . But at some point the forum here had so much bull**** and hater spam that bioware made a new one.1000 people? No ... probably 10 .

I don't thing those ppl that gave poor critic to the witcher 2 hte the game .. But they probably really hate the hater.
all this hate ...

Modifié par Suprez30, 21 mai 2011 - 06:24 .

[Nashiktal]

Its just the same immaturity running rampant again.

Look I loved the concept behind The Witcher (1) but I found its execution so flawed I havn't managed to finish a single playthrough yet. (That damn swamp) If told to review it I would give it a solid six or seven out of ten.

Conversely with DA2 I had a great time playing it and managed to finish two different playthroughs so far, but it REALLY needed more dev time to plug in some obviously bad flaws with its presentation. (recycled environs most obvious). It was definitely a solid seven as well, but for different reasons from the witcher.

I always get annoyed at someone who rates ANYTHING 0/10. That would imply it is not a game, and 1/10 implies it is a barely playable game with horrible... well everything. Giving either game such a low score blatantly disregards ANY of their positives.

[Myounage]

They're butt frustrated that a new developer shat on Bioware's face, and made everyone realize how terrible DA 2 really was.

[Nashiktal]

Myounage wrote...

They're butt frustrated that a new developer shat on Bioware's face, and made everyone realize how terrible DA 2 really was.

Part of the problem, you are.

[Myounage]

TGFKAMAdmaX wrote...

Well it is no different then fans of origins flaming Da2 with bad scores just because it wasnt origins instead of taking it as its own game.

Ok. I'll take it as its own game.

4/10.

Poor combat for an action-rpg.

Poor story with some highlights, but not redeeming. Incredibly predictable when it doesn't jump the shark, "HURRR IM CRAZY AS ****. EVEN THOUGH WEVE HELPED EACHOTHER ALL GAME IM TURNING ON YOU FOR NO REAL REASON. ALSO IM A BIG MONSTER."

Simplified dialogue.

Stiff animation.

Bland art direction in most environments.

Poor level up choices for some specs (blood mage uses health to cast, but is punished for taking constitution by will requirements?)

Tedious waves of enemies in basically every encounter.

Random waves destroy any sense of tactical positioning, as your position is meaningless when the next wave spawns.

Enemies that are designed as tanks that do massive burst damage? Stealthy "assassins" have high burst and mobility while also having tons of health compared to normal mobs? WTF? An enemy that has no weakness -- that's just bad game design full stop. They have speed, stealth, and high damage. I don't see why they also need to be tanks.

Recycled environments everywhere

Yeah, DA II doesn't hold up at all as "its own game." It's still ****ing terrible and worthy of no more than a 5/10. Comparing it to actual good games like The Witcher 2 and Dragon Age: Origins just makes it look even worse.

Modifié par Myounage, 21 mai 2011 - 07:31 .

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Rockworm503 wrote...

LOL I'm gonna assume your new to this site.
This is how any Witcher 2 topic goes (and there are a lot)

"Witcher 2 owns Bioware in every sense of the word and your not a real gamer if you love it and hate Bioware and everything they do"

Its not about telling me about an interesting game.. its about shoving said game down my throat and putting a gun to my head telling me to play it.

Well I cant remember anyone suggesting that anyone that dislikes the Witcher 2 has bad taste in the Witcher 2 threads (though you probably do have bad taste, something tells me that you are a big Heavy Rain fan) however a lot of the Witcher 2 threads do say how much fail Dragon Age 2 is when compared to the Witcher 2. I dont think its so much calling Bioware fans out on their tastes but about showing Bioware that there are other RPG developers out there that actually do care about the quality of their games and if they are going to try to compete with them they will have to step up the quality of their games and stop releasing trash like Dragon Age 2.

They do it because they care, Bioware was once a great game company and they hope that by showing them what a true RPG looks like Bioware will at least try to become the company they once were.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Damn you double post.

Modifié par Mr Mxyzptlk, 21 mai 2011 - 07:47 .

[Nashiktal]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

LOL I'm gonna assume your new to this site.
This is how any Witcher 2 topic goes (and there are a lot)

"Witcher 2 owns Bioware in every sense of the word and your not a real gamer if you love it and hate Bioware and everything they do"

Its not about telling me about an interesting game.. its about shoving said game down my throat and putting a gun to my head telling me to play it.

Well I cant remember anyone suggesting that anyone that dislikes the Witcher 2 has bad taste in the Witcher 2 threads (though you probably do have bad taste, something tells me that you are a big Heavy Rain fan) however a lot of the Witcher 2 threads do say how much fail Dragon Age 2 is when compared to the Witcher 2. I dont think its so much calling Bioware fans out on their tastes but about showing Bioware that there are other RPG developers out there that actually do care about the quality of their games and if they are going to try to compete with them they will have to step up the quality of their games and stop releasing trash like Dragon Age 2.

They do it because they care, Bioware was once a great game company and they hope that by showing them what a true RPG looks like Bioware will at least try to become the company they once were.

Aside from the insult against him, and the point about caring I agree with you.

I loved DA2, but that game really needed more dev time. However from all the crazyness I have seen involving the hate with DA2, I just can't accept it involves *love.*

[Myounage]

Witcher 2 is an objectively better game. Its plot has exactly one weak point. That is literally the only flaw i can find in the game other than having to sit down to drink potions. That's it. I can name two weak points about The Witcher 2, and I've finished it. I can name countless flaws with DA 2, and I gave up halfway through because DA 2 is a bad game and not worth my time.

[MingWolf]

When I checked metacritic (just now), really, only 74 out of 822 users gave the game a less than favourable review. That is not even 0.01%! Really, if there were any hurt Bioware fans who indeed decided to down vote TW2, they make an almost negligible minority.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

MingWolf wrote...

When I checked metacritic (just now), really, only 74 out of 822 users gave the game a less than favourable review. That is not even 0.01%! Really, if there were any hurt Bioware fans who indeed decided to down vote TW2, they make an almost negligible minority.

Actually that is close to 10%.

Still means that Witcher 2 ratings are in the ballpark of 90% favourable. But yeah... 10%, not 0.01%.

[DragonRageGT]

After playing TW2 I simply cannot conceive the idea of going back and finishing my latest DA2 run. Stopped a new Hawke at level 22 and that's it. Was a good game for what's worth. Gave me 5 full runs and one incomplete.

Can we lock this and go back discussing TW2 and helping each other as we discover this fraking awesome game piece by piece?

[Lukertin]

RageGT wrote...
After playing TW2 I simply cannot conceive the idea of going back and finishing my latest DA2 run. Stopped a new Hawke at level 22 and that's it. Was a good game for what's worth. Gave me 5 full runs and one incomplete.

Can we lock this and go back discussing TW2 and helping each other as we discover this fraking awesome game piece by piece?

TW2: Choosing different factions --> Do different quests, experience different game content, gives a real reason for replay value.
DA2: Choosing different factions --> Do the...exact same thing? Experience the...exact same game content? 

[MingWolf]

mrcrusty wrote...

MingWolf wrote...

When I checked metacritic (just now), really, only 74 out of 822 users gave the game a less than favourable review. That is not even 0.01%! Really, if there were any hurt Bioware fans who indeed decided to down vote TW2, they make an almost negligible minority.

Actually that is close to 10%.

Still means that Witcher 2 ratings are in the ballpark of 90% favourable. But yeah... 10%, not 0.01%.

Ah sorry.  Thats what happens when I stay up till 2 in the morning. 

[Chromie]

RageGT wrote...

After playing TW2 I simply cannot conceive the idea of going back and finishing my latest DA2 run. Stopped a new Hawke at level 22 and that's it. Was a good game for what's worth. Gave me 5 full runs and one incomplete.

Can we lock this and go back discussing TW2 and helping each other as we discover this fraking awesome game piece by piece?

Nope that requires being reasonable.

[Archaven]

@Dragoonlordz
There is NO way that Witcher2 can outsell DA2 being a PC exclusive title and looking at so many pirates in PC gaming. DA2 indeed reaps a huge amount of cash if you asked me.

[Chromie]

Archaven wrote...

@Dragoonlordz
There is NO way that Witcher2 can outsell DA2 being a PC exclusive title and looking at so many pirates in PC gaming. DA2 indeed reaps a huge amount of cash if you asked me.

Well all we know is DA2 sold at least 2 million.