It doesn't necessarily have to depend on whether you like that character so much as it depends on how emotional/sexy/cute/dramatic their romantic plotline is, should you follow it all the way through.
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Most Romantic Playthrough
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 08:28
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I'm not really a fan of romances but I do like romantic stories, if that makes any sense. I'd just like to know everyone's opinon on the best romance in the game. I'm not asking who your favourite love interest is, I just want to know which of the four options makes for the most romantic playthrough overall.
It doesn't necessarily have to depend on whether you like that character so much as it depends on how emotional/sexy/cute/dramatic their romantic plotline is, should you follow it all the way through.
It doesn't necessarily have to depend on whether you like that character so much as it depends on how emotional/sexy/cute/dramatic their romantic plotline is, should you follow it all the way through.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 09:34
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Anders. Lots of drama, potential tragedy, but also some sweetness and humour if you want it. I romanced Anders in my first playthrough and was mainly unspoiled aside from knowing the end bosses, so I had the full impact of Anders' scheme.
I found it difficult to romance anyone else after. Tried Fenris on my templar playthrough but despite the passionate kiss at the Gallows, it left me a bit cold, really.
I found it difficult to romance anyone else after. Tried Fenris on my templar playthrough but despite the passionate kiss at the Gallows, it left me a bit cold, really.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 10:02
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Anders was never an option, because he was a whining, boring ****** to me, personally.
Fenris was an option until the "she waits three years, and never, ever corners him" . Idiocy galore.
Fenris was an option until the "she waits three years, and never, ever corners him" . Idiocy galore.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 10:05
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Merrill, IMO. There's really a shared bond by Act 3 due to the respective loss of their families/mother figures, and if you play Hawke as something of a loner herself, they'll connect wonderfully on all levels. The kissing is also awesome.
This really works best with a friendmance, though.
This really works best with a friendmance, though.
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This is a tough one. For DA2 I'd have to say Merrill's rivalmance is the most romantic. I think Isabela is the most attractive character in the game but I didn't find her romance to be what I would personally define as "romantic."
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 10:58
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I've never felt Bioware has properly nailed a romance yet. Though I would say Viconia in BG2 has been the best written one so far.
All of the female ones were terrible in DA2 imo. I haven't done a gay or female playthrough, though, so I can't speak on the males.
All of the female ones were terrible in DA2 imo. I haven't done a gay or female playthrough, though, so I can't speak on the males.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:21
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Isabela without question for me. Just had so many great moments in it. The end part of Act II is just twice as good if she's your Love interest. (and you're a dashing swashbuckler yourself)
Though I must admit a warm spot for the aforementioned Viconia. One of my favorite game romances of all time.
Though I must admit a warm spot for the aforementioned Viconia. One of my favorite game romances of all time.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:29
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My favourite is Merrill friendmance. But I wouldn't necessarily say it's the most romantic, because it's so straightforward
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:32
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Actually, never mind.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:38
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Xilizhra wrote...
Merrill, IMO. There's really a shared bond by Act 3 due to the respective loss of their families/mother figures, and if you play Hawke as something of a loner herself, they'll connect wonderfully on all levels. The kissing is also awesome.
This really works best with a friendmance, though.
Yeah, this.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:44
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Plus, if you're a mage that helped mages, then they're both exiled, and without family.
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Posté 20 mai 2011 - 11:48
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Merrill because the rest of the LI are garbage
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 12:19
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Anders rivalrymance struck me as the most romantic.
And huzzah for patch 1.03 being in certification!
And huzzah for patch 1.03 being in certification!
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 02:39
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The Anders Romance was the most "romantic," but it took some doing on my part.
I realized a couple of dialogues in that Anders, and not Hawke, was The-Hero-of-the-Story. (Seriously, he should have been: the wry ex-Warden who is trying to escape capture from both the oppressive templars and the humorless Wardens, but witnesses so much misery that he sets up a free clinic in the worst section of town to take care of refugees who have no one else...Who endured personal tragedy by losing Karl and Ser Pounce A Lot... I think that backstory makes Anders more a candidate for the part of The Hero than Hawke at the same point in the story.)
Anyhow, if Anders is The Hero, that makes Hawke the "Love Interest." So if you replay the scenes with that twist in mind, then the over-the-top dialogue makes sense as Anders is driving the action as the Hero. Very romantic.
And I'm just a sucker for the "pounce kiss." What can I say?
I realized a couple of dialogues in that Anders, and not Hawke, was The-Hero-of-the-Story. (Seriously, he should have been: the wry ex-Warden who is trying to escape capture from both the oppressive templars and the humorless Wardens, but witnesses so much misery that he sets up a free clinic in the worst section of town to take care of refugees who have no one else...Who endured personal tragedy by losing Karl and Ser Pounce A Lot... I think that backstory makes Anders more a candidate for the part of The Hero than Hawke at the same point in the story.)
Anyhow, if Anders is The Hero, that makes Hawke the "Love Interest." So if you replay the scenes with that twist in mind, then the over-the-top dialogue makes sense as Anders is driving the action as the Hero. Very romantic.
And I'm just a sucker for the "pounce kiss." What can I say?
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 04:08
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As far as pure drama and pageantry and romanticism goes, Anders kind of smothers the other love interests with ham and cheese. His entire character is an extremely over the top romance novel pastiche and commentary. He's also basically more plot involved than Hawke, which is a big factor.
If you mean "romantic", as in sweet and lovey-dovey and all that ****, probably Merrill. Anders plays all of the standard romance tropes, but in a way that kind of deconstructs itself into an anti-romance.
If you mean "actually a feel good fun time", Isabela by far. Minimum sap, minimum wangst, bros for life plus genital grinding.
Fenris is just a horrible case of blue balls and Lady Hawke doesn't even get the benefit of the greatest dick joke of all time.
If you mean "romantic", as in sweet and lovey-dovey and all that ****, probably Merrill. Anders plays all of the standard romance tropes, but in a way that kind of deconstructs itself into an anti-romance.
If you mean "actually a feel good fun time", Isabela by far. Minimum sap, minimum wangst, bros for life plus genital grinding.
Fenris is just a horrible case of blue balls and Lady Hawke doesn't even get the benefit of the greatest dick joke of all time.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 04:13
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It depends on what you mean by romantic. Anders ties most directly into the main story is hands-down the most dramatic. However, given the nature of this game and his story arc, he's also got the most tragic arc (depending on how you want the ending to go). So go in with your eyes open and you should be good.
Honestly, the others kind of pale when it comes to plot relevance. They're only tangentially connected at best, so if you're looking for something with less angst but also less impact, it's a bit of a toss up. I adore Isabela's personality, and she's probably the easiest of the LIs to get along with, but I wouldn't call her arc particularly "romantic" in the sense of sweet or sappy.
Honestly, the others kind of pale when it comes to plot relevance. They're only tangentially connected at best, so if you're looking for something with less angst but also less impact, it's a bit of a toss up. I adore Isabela's personality, and she's probably the easiest of the LIs to get along with, but I wouldn't call her arc particularly "romantic" in the sense of sweet or sappy.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 06:08
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I agree with all of these opinions, which is particularly why I have a hard time deciding myself. I don't think there is any one factor that makes a story romantic, it's a culmination of many things. Drama and angst are nice if used correctly, but then so are cuteness and affection, I have no real preference.
Anders certainly seems like the most dramatic (and likely the most tragic) option, and dramatic is good, but is it the best? I really sensed the emotional connection between Anders and Hawke, and how he was torn between his mission and his love for him/her. If you choose to kill him or desert him in the end, it's all the more heartbreaking if he's your love interest. That's what I like to have in my romances, emotion, whether positive or negative. One of my favourite lines is at the end when he says that someday someone like him would be able to love someone like hawke, and there'd be no templars to get in their way. It really got me to take his perspective seriously.
To some I can understand why Isabela might not seem like the romantic choice per se, but depending on how you play it, I think it can be totally romantic. She has completely fortified herself emotionally from falling in love, because of her previous marriage, so it's all the more worthwhile to hear her admit she's falling for you. She has little personal reason to stay in Kirkwall, especially if she gets castillon's ship, but she remains by your side. Your relationship even determines whether or not she returns the Qunari relic. You and you alone have the most significant impact on her life, which sounds pretty romantic to me. I think the whole "I got your back" kind of buddy routine can be just as romantic as the super emotional "you're the only one" scenario.
When it comes to Fenris, I've seen the romance scenes with him, and I have to say, they're pretty steamy. There's nothing sexier than a tortured soul who just needs some good lovin'. The major problem everyone seems to have with him is his broody attittude towards mages, and how no matter what you do, he always seems to disapprove. You have to consider he's been a slave for as long as he can remember, and not the cooking/dusting kind of slave, the killing kind. He's got trust issues. Not to mention the fact that he ended up slaughtering the first group of people who tried to help him on his master's whim. He's torn by guilt, mistrust, and the fear that he might hurt the only people he cares about. You see this really come out when he almost goes berserk on Hawke when you grab his arm. But if you do romance him, it is possible to convince him that people, even mages, can be trusted, and he can even side with the mages in the end. I find that pretty profound, at least as far as videogame characters go.
Lastly is Merrill. She's so cute! She reminded me of Codex from the guild, who happens to be every geekboy's dreamgirl (and has caused many of my female friends to question their orientation). Sure she's naive and foolish, and gets the keeper killed, but she was misunderstood. Was it really all her fault? If her clan had helped her instead of shunning her, would it really have ended as bad as it did? My defense for Merrill is that after she was exiled from the dalish, she started to have doubts, but couldn't go back. She was already a loner amongst the dalish, she had no close friends who would stand up for her if she wanted to return. She had nothing to live for except the eluvian and the chance it might work; that is until she fell for hawke. S/he's really all Merrill's got, and having someone like that to care for her, an elf with no life and few friends, is pretty heartwarming. Whether you argue with her because you don't want to see her get hurt, or you support her because you want to share her optimism, I think it makes a pretty sweet love story.
So yeah, with those points in mind, which sounds the best?
Anders certainly seems like the most dramatic (and likely the most tragic) option, and dramatic is good, but is it the best? I really sensed the emotional connection between Anders and Hawke, and how he was torn between his mission and his love for him/her. If you choose to kill him or desert him in the end, it's all the more heartbreaking if he's your love interest. That's what I like to have in my romances, emotion, whether positive or negative. One of my favourite lines is at the end when he says that someday someone like him would be able to love someone like hawke, and there'd be no templars to get in their way. It really got me to take his perspective seriously.
To some I can understand why Isabela might not seem like the romantic choice per se, but depending on how you play it, I think it can be totally romantic. She has completely fortified herself emotionally from falling in love, because of her previous marriage, so it's all the more worthwhile to hear her admit she's falling for you. She has little personal reason to stay in Kirkwall, especially if she gets castillon's ship, but she remains by your side. Your relationship even determines whether or not she returns the Qunari relic. You and you alone have the most significant impact on her life, which sounds pretty romantic to me. I think the whole "I got your back" kind of buddy routine can be just as romantic as the super emotional "you're the only one" scenario.
When it comes to Fenris, I've seen the romance scenes with him, and I have to say, they're pretty steamy. There's nothing sexier than a tortured soul who just needs some good lovin'. The major problem everyone seems to have with him is his broody attittude towards mages, and how no matter what you do, he always seems to disapprove. You have to consider he's been a slave for as long as he can remember, and not the cooking/dusting kind of slave, the killing kind. He's got trust issues. Not to mention the fact that he ended up slaughtering the first group of people who tried to help him on his master's whim. He's torn by guilt, mistrust, and the fear that he might hurt the only people he cares about. You see this really come out when he almost goes berserk on Hawke when you grab his arm. But if you do romance him, it is possible to convince him that people, even mages, can be trusted, and he can even side with the mages in the end. I find that pretty profound, at least as far as videogame characters go.
Lastly is Merrill. She's so cute! She reminded me of Codex from the guild, who happens to be every geekboy's dreamgirl (and has caused many of my female friends to question their orientation). Sure she's naive and foolish, and gets the keeper killed, but she was misunderstood. Was it really all her fault? If her clan had helped her instead of shunning her, would it really have ended as bad as it did? My defense for Merrill is that after she was exiled from the dalish, she started to have doubts, but couldn't go back. She was already a loner amongst the dalish, she had no close friends who would stand up for her if she wanted to return. She had nothing to live for except the eluvian and the chance it might work; that is until she fell for hawke. S/he's really all Merrill's got, and having someone like that to care for her, an elf with no life and few friends, is pretty heartwarming. Whether you argue with her because you don't want to see her get hurt, or you support her because you want to share her optimism, I think it makes a pretty sweet love story.
So yeah, with those points in mind, which sounds the best?
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 06:32
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Aveline. A brief, tragic flirtation. Epic.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 06:52
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While they put more effort into Ander's romance (I especially like the warnings Varric and Sebastian give you about him), Isabela's last scene in the Hanged Man was really well done and that's what put it over the top for me. While she wasn't the most romantic character getting her to finally come clean after all that time felt like a triumph. While I'd never romance someone like her IRL there's no way I could hit the heartbreak button during that scene.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 07:38
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Aside from the dagger to the ribs in the love scene (they could have at least removed the top coats and pointy bits for those), and a bit too much cheese in the dialogue, Anders rules for romance. I too appreciated the pounce kiss. Great voice acting. One of my peeves was that by romancing Anders, you lost some of the most endearing bits of dialogue from him. I would have liked to have had both. Fenris is interesting, if you can avoid having your eyes poked out by his pauldrons, and have the patience to wait for him to come around. Couldn't handle sanctimonious Sebastian after the "too much hitting" line, and the idea of a chaste marriage ...SMH. Brought back memories of the creepy Paladin-mance from Baldurs Gate (I'd have loved a tryst with Minsc, but I digress) Merrill gave me the little sister vibe, and I kind of felt that Isabella truly was a side dish (great line, that).
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 09:26
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Most romantic... I've only ever romanced Anders or Fenris to be honest I plan to romance Isabela soon as the new patch comes out
LI I think it's just a matter of perspective or "imagination" if you will, being able to feel a sort of connection between your character to the other- wow sounds totally lame, connecting with a game character, but its like reading a great book if your hooked you lost in the pages.
Between the two males, I could "connect" to both, so the romances seemed in-depth and passionate to me even though as far as game mechanics go there wasn't all that depth (I just must in touch with my inner sappiness).
-Anders' romance reminded me of a typical tragic romance novel and is more integrated into the story. I must admit I had a tendency to hate his character being so single-minded, but I couldn't really blame him.
-The second Fenris despite his harden exterior he's got a "sweet" side. He, like all the other LI's seem to have a complexity about them, his just seems a little more obvious, and as it was said he's a tortured soul with trust issues. I've never had any troubles with Fenris in my play-throughs even when I sided with mages and friendmance'd him, so I've never felt bitter about his character.
I mentioned that each LI's seem to have a complex character whether this was implemented well in-game or not, "surface-wise" I don't think it was made all that obvious and I firmly believe it's up to the imagination of the player to come up a more in-depth sort of perspective.
Bah! I'm done writing I feel all... like I just finished watching a soap opera *shivers* well, back to hate-grumpy-cynical mode for me... my comfort zone.
LI I think it's just a matter of perspective or "imagination" if you will, being able to feel a sort of connection between your character to the other- wow sounds totally lame, connecting with a game character, but its like reading a great book if your hooked you lost in the pages.
Between the two males, I could "connect" to both, so the romances seemed in-depth and passionate to me even though as far as game mechanics go there wasn't all that depth (I just must in touch with my inner sappiness).
-Anders' romance reminded me of a typical tragic romance novel and is more integrated into the story. I must admit I had a tendency to hate his character being so single-minded, but I couldn't really blame him.
-The second Fenris despite his harden exterior he's got a "sweet" side. He, like all the other LI's seem to have a complexity about them, his just seems a little more obvious, and as it was said he's a tortured soul with trust issues. I've never had any troubles with Fenris in my play-throughs even when I sided with mages and friendmance'd him, so I've never felt bitter about his character.
I mentioned that each LI's seem to have a complex character whether this was implemented well in-game or not, "surface-wise" I don't think it was made all that obvious and I firmly believe it's up to the imagination of the player to come up a more in-depth sort of perspective.
Bah! I'm done writing I feel all... like I just finished watching a soap opera *shivers* well, back to hate-grumpy-cynical mode for me... my comfort zone.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 09:49
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Fenris - mainly because my definition of 'romantic' includes the possibility of a 'happy' ending. I've never found tragedy particularly romantic tbh. Romeo and Juliet just annoys me - 'leave town you fools!', but I digress. I tried romancing Anders but I couldn't finish that run. It did have the effect of making me like him a little more, but, his appeal as a romantic object is lost on me.
Fenris might be a little grumpy, a little focused on his distrust of mages and more than a little odd (three years!? seriously Fenris, wtf!?) but he has a sweet rather unexpected sense of humour and in the end, when it counts, my Hawkes could rely on his support.
That's my idea of romantic.
Fenris might be a little grumpy, a little focused on his distrust of mages and more than a little odd (three years!? seriously Fenris, wtf!?) but he has a sweet rather unexpected sense of humour and in the end, when it counts, my Hawkes could rely on his support.
That's my idea of romantic.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 11:05
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It's probably highly personal. Back in ye olde days of the BG series, when no one took female gamers seriously so I won't comment on Anomen... the female romance interests were all quite well-written for those days (even though Aerie was excessively punchworthy), but none of them particularly appealed to me.
I'm not a mushy person, but I loved the Anders romance (friend or rival) from a dramatic and yes, also sexy point of view. There is potential for tragedy, or the against-all-odds love story; the warnings your other companions but also the man himself give you makes it all the better.
Also, as opposed to some of the others, I did get the feeling it does progress somewhat logically. Your character flirts a little, he's interested but warns him/her away, and slowly you reach a point where you wonder "how the hell did I get myself into this" without really wanting out
I heard good things of the Merrill rivalmance, since it has your hero trying to save his/her favourite little paradox (a funny cute blood mage! Yay!) from herself without getting in the way of her entertaining, slightly clueless personality.
Fenris... well, he has his fans. I tried all the way into Act III, but gave up. On the plus side: it has all the elements of tense, angry romance (even if you take the friendship path) like the nasty past catching up, the emotional issues to be worked around, and of course the steamy parts... but no matter how much time progresses, Fenris still doesn't develop. Or so it seems to me, there are plenty of people who disagree.
While your hero is shaped by the events around him or her, Fenris remains stuck at I-will-lash out-at-everyone-for-no-reason and all-mages-must-die. If he were the one walking around with a spirit of Vengeance inside the whole of Thedas would turn into a smoking wasteland in a heartbeat. But if that's your cup of tea....
I'm not a mushy person, but I loved the Anders romance (friend or rival) from a dramatic and yes, also sexy point of view. There is potential for tragedy, or the against-all-odds love story; the warnings your other companions but also the man himself give you makes it all the better.
Also, as opposed to some of the others, I did get the feeling it does progress somewhat logically. Your character flirts a little, he's interested but warns him/her away, and slowly you reach a point where you wonder "how the hell did I get myself into this" without really wanting out
I heard good things of the Merrill rivalmance, since it has your hero trying to save his/her favourite little paradox (a funny cute blood mage! Yay!) from herself without getting in the way of her entertaining, slightly clueless personality.
Fenris... well, he has his fans. I tried all the way into Act III, but gave up. On the plus side: it has all the elements of tense, angry romance (even if you take the friendship path) like the nasty past catching up, the emotional issues to be worked around, and of course the steamy parts... but no matter how much time progresses, Fenris still doesn't develop. Or so it seems to me, there are plenty of people who disagree.
While your hero is shaped by the events around him or her, Fenris remains stuck at I-will-lash out-at-everyone-for-no-reason and all-mages-must-die. If he were the one walking around with a spirit of Vengeance inside the whole of Thedas would turn into a smoking wasteland in a heartbeat. But if that's your cup of tea....
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 11:17
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Ryzaki wrote...
Anders rivalrymance struck me as the most romantic.
And huzzah for patch 1.03 being in certification!
Source? I'm not trying to get into it with you again, I'm just honestly curious if a dev confirmed it.
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As far as pure drama and pageantry and romanticism goes, Anders kind of smothers the other love interests with ham and cheese. His entire character is an extremely over the top romance novel pastiche and commentary. He's also basically more plot involved than Hawke, which is a big factor.
If you mean "romantic", as in sweet and lovey-dovey and all that ****, probably Merrill. Anders plays all of the standard romance tropes, but in a way that kind of deconstructs itself into an anti-romance.
If you mean "actually a feel good fun time", Isabela by far. Minimum sap, minimum wangst, bros for life plus genital grinding.
Fenris is just a horrible case of blue balls and Lady Hawke doesn't even get the benefit of the greatest dick joke of all time.
Okay, I gotta know. What's the awesome dick joke? I can't stand to look at Fenris, let alone romance him, so I'll never hear it otherwise.
I agree, the answer to the question depends a lot on what one considers romantic. I think Anders' has the best potential personally. It generally ends badly of course, but Romeo and Juliet is oft considered the greatest love story of all time and it ends with a double suicide. But yeah, if you want a happy ending, the guy possessed a mad spirit isn't it. Isabela's was touching to an extent when you take the subtext about her life into consideration. Not exactly "epic" though. Definitely a happier ending than raining bits of building though. Fenris and Merrill I just don't know about. I hate Fenris and I feel like Chris Hansen is about to ask me to have a seat everytime I even try to start the Merrill romance.
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Posté 21 mai 2011 - 12:18
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I'll say Merrill too. She calls you different names depending on what stage of friendship she is at with you which I thought was cute.
