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Is DA2 really that bad?


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MorrigansLove wrote...

How anyone could find DA2's ending "satisfying" is beyond me.


I would have put the quotes around "ending" myself.

The adjective I'd use would be intriguing more than satisfying.  

Which means a couple of things, if you liked DA2 overall that's not really going to be a problem.  If you didn't, then I would understand the point of view that felt like they just paid $60 for an introduction to a more interesting sequel.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 mai 2011 - 12:18 .


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Reading those epilogue cards for me reinforced the satisfaction I got from the choices I made in Origins. With DA2 it was like a broken record coupled with my worst nightmare. Well not so dramatic but, you should get my point. :)
 
edited for spelling. heh:)

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MorrigansLove wrote...

How anyone could find DA2's ending "satisfying" is beyond me.


I don't think anyone did. They were obviously going for something that will excite the player the same way ME2 did. They failed. Violently(IMO).

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the worst part of DA2 was definitely the ending, where suddenly railroading and rushing toward boring final battle.

The 'epilogue' was decent, but not really noteworthy.

Edit: if you guys are *still* comparing it to DAO however, then even the ending was largely better than DAO's. Stop looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses when it was quite a bit worse on most levels.

Also, while i haven't yet played Witcher 2, i don't have high hopes for it, given the boring way Witcher was done.

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As a Fan of Dynasty warriors (yes you heard that correctly) I do prefer the action combat of DA2 however, Im midway between the action generation and the old school generation. I like a mix of thinking and action with combat.

Story wise your better of Purchasing DW7,then DA2.

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Tomark wrote...

the worst part of DA2 was definitely the ending, where suddenly railroading and rushing toward boring final battle.

The 'epilogue' was decent, but not really noteworthy.

Edit: if you guys are *still* comparing it to DAO however, then even the ending was largely better than DAO's. Stop looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses when it was quite a bit worse on most levels.

Also, while i haven't yet played Witcher 2, i don't have high hopes for it, given the boring way Witcher was done.


Not sure if serious.

Dragon Age: Origins isn't even 2 years old.

If people didn't like FIFA 2011, would you tell them to stop looking at FIFA 2010 with rose tinted glasses?

You know, because it was so long ago. It wouldn't be a good game today because it's so outdated and old. I'll bet people who play Modern Warfare 2 instead of Black Ops are ancient dinosaurs too.

<_<

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mrcrusty wrote...

Tomark wrote...

the worst part of DA2 was definitely the ending, where suddenly railroading and rushing toward boring final battle.

The 'epilogue' was decent, but not really noteworthy.

Edit: if you guys are *still* comparing it to DAO however, then even the ending was largely better than DAO's. Stop looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses when it was quite a bit worse on most levels.

Also, while i haven't yet played Witcher 2, i don't have high hopes for it, given the boring way Witcher was done.


Not sure if serious.

Dragon Age: Origins isn't even 2 years old.

If people didn't like FIFA 2011, would you tell them to stop looking at FIFA 2010 with rose tinted glasses?

You know, because it was so long ago. It wouldn't be a good game today because it's so outdated and old. I'll bet people who play Modern Warfare 2 instead of Black Ops are ancient dinosaurs too.

<_<



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MorrigansLove wrote...

How anyone could find DA2's ending "satisfying" is beyond me.

Oh, I don't know. I rather like the idea of stopping genocide.

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MorrigansLove wrote...

How anyone could find DA2's ending "satisfying" is beyond me.

Oh, I don't know. I rather like the idea of stopping genocide.


I think MorrigansLove meant that the ending was a poorly done sequel-hook, which alot of people(including me)felt it left a bad taste in the mouth.

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Alistairlover94 wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

Tomark wrote...

the worst part of DA2 was definitely the ending, where suddenly railroading and rushing toward boring final battle.

The 'epilogue' was decent, but not really noteworthy.

Edit: if you guys are *still* comparing it to DAO however, then even the ending was largely better than DAO's. Stop looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses when it was quite a bit worse on most levels.

Also, while i haven't yet played Witcher 2, i don't have high hopes for it, given the boring way Witcher was done.


Not sure if serious.

Dragon Age: Origins isn't even 2 years old.

If people didn't like FIFA 2011, would you tell them to stop looking at FIFA 2010 with rose tinted glasses?

You know, because it was so long ago. It wouldn't be a good game today because it's so outdated and old. I'll bet people who play Modern Warfare 2 instead of Black Ops are ancient dinosaurs too.

<_<



:D

Keep in mind Tomark, I'm not going on a "Dragon Age 2 Sucks" rant. I don't consider Dragon Age 2 to be a bad game or anything. Just that claiming the only reason people liked Origins more than DA 2 is because of nostalgia is, for a lack of a more polite word, stupid.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 22 mai 2011 - 01:19 .


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Alistairlover94 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

How anyone could find DA2's ending "satisfying" is beyond me.

Oh, I don't know. I rather like the idea of stopping genocide.


I think MorrigansLove meant that the ending was a poorly done sequel-hook, which alot of people(including me)felt it left a bad taste in the mouth.

The actual ending sequence and not the final battle? Well, it wasn't the best, I admit, but it wasn't terrible either.
The final battle and Varric's last epilogue, though, were extremely satisfying to me.

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Should I still get it?


No. Buy a good game instead or save the money. 

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Xilizhra wrote...

Oh, I don't know. I rather like the idea of stopping genocide.


Indeed, I also like the idea of trying to stop a conflict from spreading.

Sadly given the hints given about the worldstate by Cassandra and Varric, I don't think Hawke is ultimately going to be very successful at either from taking place post-DA2.

/my Hawke that sides with the Templars isnt a fan of either group
//my Hawke that sides with the mages thinks Tevinter is awesome and wants Danarius' autograph

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Oh, I don't know. I rather like the idea of stopping genocide.


Indeed, I also like the idea of trying to stop a conflict from spreading.

Sadly given the hints given about the worldstate by Cassandra and Varric, I don't think Hawke is ultimately going to be very successful at either from taking place post-DA2.

/my Hawke that sides with the Templars isnt a fan of either group
//my Hawke that sides with the mages thinks Tevinter is awesome and wants Danarius' autograph

Well, the Kirkwall Circle is largely saved in the mage ending, so I think that it's a success.

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And Thedas is what Dragon Age is about, is it not?


Then they should really work on making it feel alive. Recycled environments and lifeless cities are not helping at all.

And they should focus more on character development, something that Orsino and Meredith did not get. Characters are the best microcosm to portray the world they live in. 

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Xilizhra wrote...
Well, the Kirkwall Circle is largely saved in the mage ending, so I think that it's a success.


I did that ending and I did not get the impression that it was saved, unless you expect the army of Templars outside to just let the mages inside (what's left of them) go.

They let Hawke go yea (because he killed Meredith), but we don't see mages leaving.

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DA2 was more of a cheap spin-off than a true sequel. Sequels continue and elaborate the current plot and characters, not give them a bit of foreshadowing and face-time. Plus, its a horrible RPG.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Well, the Kirkwall Circle is largely saved in the mage ending, so I think that it's a success.


I did that ending and I did not get the impression that it was saved, unless you expect the army of Templars outside to just let the mages inside (what's left of them) go.

They let Hawke go yea (because he killed Meredith), but we don't see mages leaving.


We don't see anyone other than Hawke's three party companions leaving. Also, how could word of the slaughter spread quickly if mages weren't spreading out to the other Circles?

It may be open to interpretation, but my Hawke would never have left without knowing that the other mages would be safe.

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Xilizhra wrote...
We don't see anyone other than Hawke's three party companions leaving. Also, how could word of the slaughter spread quickly if mages weren't spreading out to the other Circles?


Common folk and merchants can spread the word. It doesn't need mages.
I don't think mages are completely cut off from world news.

It may be open to interpretation, but my Hawke would never have left without knowing that the other mages would be safe.


But I'm afraid she did. That, or she felt all mages died anyways, that's what Orsino apparently felt.

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But I'm afraid she did. That, or she felt all mages died anyways, that's what Orsino apparently felt.

And why do you believe this?

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Xilizhra wrote...

But I'm afraid she did. That, or she felt all mages died anyways, that's what Orsino apparently felt.

And why do you believe this?


Because she was heading out of the gallows and not inside, leaving an army of Templars there?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Then they should really work on making it feel alive. Recycled environments and lifeless cities are not helping at all.


Their engine isn't capable of it.  And this is a huge problem, I think.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

But I'm afraid she did. That, or she felt all mages died anyways, that's what Orsino apparently felt.

And why do you believe this?


Because she was heading out of the gallows and not inside, leaving an army of Templars there?

There were like six of them left in the Gallows itself; the rest were still crossing the harbor. The other mages could easily be walking behind.

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There were like six of them left in the Gallows itself; the rest were still crossing the harbor. The other mages could easily be walking behind.

Not wanting to meddle here but, really, there's just no way Cullen and the rest of the Templars are going to leave the mages alone.

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There were like six of them left in the Gallows itself; the rest were still crossing the harbor. The other mages could easily be walking behind.

Not wanting to meddle here but, really, there's just no way Cullen and the rest of the Templars are going to leave the mages alone.

Cullen's squad could never beat Hawke's, plus the remaining mages. I doubt they had much choice.