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[tonnactus]

rak72 wrote...

We knew about the White Lilies, of course we would say, "hey - watch out for guys bringing white lilies".

Hawkes mother is old while alessa was young...
Should i warn my grandmother to look out for roses if a murder send them to young girls before killing them???

[OddityAngel]

Alessa wasn't young. All the killer's victims were middle aged or older, which is why Gascard's story was flawed.

[Ottemis]

aduellist wrote... 

Ottemis wrote...

@aduellist
Yes, let me go warn my mom now about all the pointless crime in the streets of every mayor and minor city.  Like the mall-shooting here recently, I could tell her to not go shopping anymore.  Or the random ATM robbings at gunpoint, I could tell her to stop getting money from the wall.

Not much use is there.
As said earlier, it's not the question whether or not you'd discuss these kinds of things with family, but specificly warning them or trying to barr them from doing something when you feel there's slight risk of them getting hurt is something else altogether.

Here in the real world, we do take notice of such things, talk about them, and take sensible precautions.

Here in the real world? Are you under the assumption we don't come from the same place or what is that comment actually supposed to mean?
What would sensible precautions be, bar turning paranoid and sleeping with a gun under our pillow?
Talking about it? That must be the equivalent of a bulletproof vest in your mind then I reckon.

Modifié par Ottemis, 23 mai 2011 - 06:46 .

[rak72]

I think the 1st french guy mentioned his wife getting the lilies.

[OddityAngel]

Oh, right. He thought they were from the Elf in the Blooming Rose though, and Hawke had no reason the think they had any significance. I'm not sure it was recognized as a pattern until Act 2, and I can't remember if it was Emeric or Gascard who mentioned them.

ETA: Act 2, not 3. Arrgh.

Modifié par OddityAngel, 23 mai 2011 - 06:50 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Is DA2 really that bad?

Yes imo. It lacked the labor of love effect and passion that held my attention for seven playthroughs of Origins. I started a second playthrough of DA2 and quickly lost interest for many of the reasons documented ad nauseum throughout this site.

I won't be purchasing DLC for DA2 unless, of course, they rediscover what I (and apparently none too few others) thought was truly right and good about Origins...(and based upon developer comments I'm relatively sure that won't happen, as they seem rigidly determined to stay the course they've adopted [at least publicly] for DA2). And DA3 will most likely not be a purchase (if it stays the course of DA2) for me unless Bioware is truly the "humble" organization the doctors recently stated it was.

So, for those who enjoyed DA2, good on ya. I only wish I could see what you see in it. To me it fell too far short of expectations.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 23 mai 2011 - 08:03 .

[Magnus_The_Red]

Was it bad? No.
Was it mediocre? Yes.

[Luvinn]

Myounage wrote...

A week ago I would've said, "No, it's just a bit below average for a big-budget RPG."

Now that The Witcher 2 is out, yeah, it's horrible and I'm not even going to bother finishing it.

While i enjoyed my time with DA2, i have to agree to an extent with this. It was enjoyable for its time, but now after playing TW2, i see what it could have been. I wouldn't pay full admission for this ride.

[zvbxrpl]

I actually quite liked DA2. But the things that were not good about it really did not to be that way. The reused environments and dull wave-based combat were just lazy. The third act felt rushed, or at least improperly foreshadowed. The end of act 2, in terms of Hawke's story as biopic, should be the midpoint of the story (To be unspoilery about it, Hawke's on top of the proverbial world, and things that were brewing are about to go seriously wrong). The initial release had more bugs than Isabella's downstairs (I kid, I kid!). All of this just felt sloppy, like getting the game out quickly was more important than getting it done right (See also, KOTOR II, which so obviously could have been really, really good).

Also, the simplification was good in a few ways (For one, there were much fewer balance issues in terms of combat, unlike in Origins, where you could do stupid, stupid, things as a mage so long as you had a meatshield), but it mostly was a whopping case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The cries of dumbing-down have a bit of classic-RPG nostalgia coloring them, but damned if I DA2's character creation really does lose a good amount of substance for no reason other than simplicity for its own sake.

So yeah, it wasn't that bad. It's OK. It's just that it arrives at that OKness with no actual OK parts, just the good stuff we expect from Bioware alternating with pointless and bad missteps. As a game, it's the equivalent of my 11th grade Pre-calc class. Back when I took it, I got a B-minus overall. But my exams were either A's or D's, with no in-between. That's (I think), why DA2 attracts so much distaste: because there's a very good game in there, but it has a number of glaring, infuriating, un-ignorable flaws.

[XRayZerno]

manny asked about morrigan, that she could not come back, cuz you might have killed her...
WRONG... she got the Black Grimoare, and if you skipped that part, she could have stolen it.
with the grimoare she could have casted some spells so she could not die or something like it, anyway, she no dead...

my impressive theorie (I just want Morrigan to return =3)