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[Gibb_Shepard]

 I'm going through origins a second time, with an "Ends justify the means" type of attitude. He is number one priority is slaying the archdemon (As you would) and wishes the Grey Wardens to become a much more respected and powerful organisation.

I am tossing up between the DR and a Loghain Sacrifise. My character does not trust Morrigan (or anyone else for that matter) and believes sparing an essense of an Old God will be detrimental to his cause, seeing as that Old God may end up being corrupted again.

But then there's the fact that Loghain will probably overshadow the Warden once dealing the final blow, and will be hailed a hero despite the fact that he was the reason the Warden had to go through all that **** anyway. Not to mention i also want my warden to deal the final blow, for epicosity's sake. 

I want my Warden alive for Awakening, so US is not an option.

I'm not quite sure what my character would do in this situation. I haven't seen the LR ending yet, how do you find this ending in comparison to the DR ending? Did Loghain dealing the final blow instead of the Warden matter much to you?

Hopefully opinions will help me make up my mind.

[Corker]

My Surana had big plans he wanted to survive to implement, so it bothered him not at all to see Loghain ride the Dragon Train to glory. He'd just have to console himself with Gwaren and the queen's ear. For a behind-the-scenes manipulator sort, it was a good ending.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

My Cousland didn't trust Morrigan's motives so didn't do the DR. She was also hoping Riordan would land the killing blow. She didn't want to die, since she intended to chase Alistair (who'd left after Loghain was recruited) after the Blight was finished. Can't do that if you're dead.

Loghain's death via archdemon was justice as far as she was concerned. It was also an awesome setup for fanfiction

[Giggles_Manically]

My canon Dwarf Noble came within a moment of doing the US ending.

However one very specific line from Loghain changed his mind about it:
"Please... I have done so much wrong. Allow me to do one last thing right"

Changed his mind.

The warden will still be more famous then Loghain though.
Especially after Awakening.

[Jon Jern_]

Alot of people did.

[Arthur Cousland]

My first full playthrough had Loghain be the sacrifice. I was primarily just trying to get the achievement, and I figured that since Alistair was going to be king, he shouldn't be on the front lines, as he might end up like Cailan. So, Loghain was brought along to be Archdemon bait.

I've beaten the game several times since then, though this was the only time that I didn't kill Loghain at the Landsmeet.

[Get Magna Carter]

I went for all endings with a single playthrough branching before the landsmeet (and after)..True ending had Loghain killed at Landsmeet followed by dark ritual.
My 4th ending was the Loghain sacrifice which got the achievement but my city-elf girl "objected" to me leaving it like that and "insisted" I do it again giving her the ultimate sacrifice ending rather than let Loghain "the slaver" have a short cut to redemption...

[CalJones]

It's my favourite ending and the only one where I feel at all emotional. I like redemption stories, what can I say.

It is fun to have Loghain show up in Awakening, though, especially for a Cousland warden who married Anora. He's a lot more chilled out. It would be nice if he turned up in Orlais in DA3 (assuming it'll be set there) but I'm not banking on it.

[Jedimaster88]

I also like redemption, but to me it feels Loghain had enough chances for redemption through the entire game before the landsmeet, but he failed to do so. Howe and Loghain together did very nasty things to many people. By killing the archdemon, people will remember him as a hero, and go on like he NEVER did anything wrong and I dont think thats justice considering everything he did. If he lives, there is some nice justice in serving with the orlesians but I dont know... I´d have to lose Alistair, who is a good friend and always has my back. I would feel myself traitor by sparing Loghain. Sure anora wants her father to live, but I dont like or trust her that much to give her the pleasure.

I have seen Loghains dialogue but it isnt that convinsing to me. I find it very condemning that he doesnt even say he is sorry about what he has done. Correct me if Im wrong. Even Morrigan knows to say sorry in right situations. I dont remember who but someone said that there might be many people who are disgusted that loghain lives after everything. I mean people like the city elves, maybe some chantry people, templars and mages and of course the many nobles and many others he wronged.

So I always end up executing him for his crimes. This way people will remember him as a man with all the good and bad things he did and nothing more. They will also know that it is the warden and Alistair, who saved Ferelden one way or another, not Loghain.

This is just my opinion as cold as it may seem to some of you.

[DragonStrike]

I would never spare Loghain considering what he did, plus I like Alistair too much. Great character Loghains paranoid reasoning only made me want to put him out of his misery.

As for your character. How does he feel personally about Loghain? He may want to do whatever it takes but did he take any of Loghains actions personally? Would he want Loghain to die in shame or as a hero? Also, how does he feel about poor Alistair???

[Addai]

LOL... but apparently he has the badassest avatar pic.

[yaw]

Have Alistair sacrifice himself. If not, then your own choices are biting your lip and letting Loghain redeem some of his glory... or biting your lip and trusting Morrigan.

[LT123]

It's worth it to spare Loghain once- making Alistair king with Anora instead of exiling him- just to see Alistair yelling at you after the Landsmeet. I actually cringed. Great work by Steve Valentine.

I was amazed by how much bitter sarcasm he could put into "Your adoring public awaits" at the post coronation. Ouch.

But I only did it on that one playthrough, and I won't do it again. None of my other Wardens trust Loghain. My city elves are furious at the slavery; my Couslands believe he's in cahoots with Howe. For all of them, Alistair is their buddy or LI who's had their back since Ostagar, and they agree with him about killing Loghain.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I wanted to do it on my Dalish elf, but it eliminates the mistress option, so I had to pass. I may do it on a future Zevran faithful playthrough, because it really is the best option, I wish you could make Alistair see reason, there. "Look, this way you don't have to have sex with Morrigan, and neither of us die! WHERE IS THE DOWNSIDE?"

[Kogama]

My third character was a Maker fanatic, and a strong hater of magic. The DR was not an option at all. But although he would have gladly given his life for the Maker, the chance for Loghain to reedem himself through death was a better alternative. My character understood, and had a certain respect for him. With Loghain dead my character was quick to claim Gwaren, and live another day in service to the Maker. (This character was fun to play, as his morals was almost the complete opposite to my Main character.

Modifié par Kogama, 31 mai 2011 - 06:09 .