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[Inzhuna]

People keep praising Witcher 2 for uncensored nudity, but do we ever see Geralt fully nude? This is a genuine question, since I only saw 2 scenes: the beginning (Triss was fully naked, Geralt had pants), and the gardens bath scene (Triss fully naked, Geralt fell into the pool with pants on, later he was covered by the water and Triss, we only saw the upper part of his body). I don't see what's progressive about this. It's a step up from the collectible cards, of course, I'll give them that.

I absolutely prefer DAII love scenes to TW2. They're brief, but they're emotional and compelling, and don't ****** me off.

[Tyrium]

I love the DA2 scenes - sweet and intimate (at least F!Hawke/Anders, haven't tried the others) without being voyeuristic

[tmp7704]

Inzhuna wrote...

People keep praising Witcher 2 for uncensored nudity, but do we ever see Geralt fully nude? This is a genuine question, since I only saw 2 scenes: the beginning (Triss was fully naked, Geralt had pants), and the gardens bath scene (Triss fully naked, Geralt fell into the pool with pants on, later he was covered by the water and Triss, we only saw the upper part of his body). I don't see what's progressive about this. It's a step up from the collectible cards, of course, I'll give them that.

I don't think there's full frontal nudity focusing on the goods so to speak, but there's a number of cutscenes which can be triggered by visiting the brothel, and in number of these both Geralt and the woman he's with are obviously fully naked.

(the thing that was more interesting to me personally about these though, was how they seem to be composed from smaller sequences, semi-randomly put together. Meaning you can get quite a different scene on each visit instead of the "saw it once, seen it all" effect)

Modifié par tmp7704, 25 mai 2011 - 06:32 .

[v_ware]

Flashflame58 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'd never play either Witcher game, and am quite happy with DA2's scenes.

Agreed. Anyway, I'd rather have a good story over a good sex scene. :/

Then you definitely have to play TW2. DA2 had a mediocre,  cut in three parts story. On top of that your choices didn't have any influence on the story in DA2 and were so easy: EVIL/GOOD.

Those cookie cutter choices might have worked when I was 14 but not anymore. The Witcher 2 spoiled me.

[EugeneBi]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Bioware should make romances harder to achieve. In KOTOR and JE it took a real effort to get a romance going with some characters. Since then it's been far too easy.

Yes!

[Chromie]

Inzhuna wrote...

People keep praising Witcher 2 for uncensored nudity, but do we ever see Geralt fully nude?

Yes we do.

[EugeneBi]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

Geralt ...

He's a womanizer and  have sex with everything that move. So the sex scene goes well with his personalities.Bioware do RPG differently with a less pre-defined protagonist.So i can understand the less graphic sex scene in Dragon Age.

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I don´t remember he cheated on Yennefer when they were in a relationship. Jaskier is much more an everything that moves than Geralt. The first game just went too far with the number of cards "available".

In DA, i´d rather they used camera angles rather both characters in underwear. ME was quite good, but Fox happened.

My favorite love scene is still from the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, even if you didn´t see much.

Geralt did not cheat on Yennifer if she was nearby. Fortunately, she would disappear for years also without promise to be faithful.
He event turned down Triss when they invited her to look after Ciri and stay in their fortress.

Otherwise, he wouldn't reject a beautiful woman but also would not chase them like crazy teenager.

[In Exile]

Ringo12 wrote...
Yes we do.

But we don't see Geralt penis, and I think that's what the poster was talking about.

[Chromie]

In Exile wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...
Yes we do.

But we don't see Geralt penis, and I think that's what the poster was talking about.

Ah well breaking down one censorship rule at a time.

[RhythmlessNinja]

In Exile wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...
Yes we do.

 penis

No thank you sir. Can keep those outta my game. And on topic, I applaud CDprojeckt on their boldness. Wish Bioware would man up too.

[Chromie]

I don't see the big deal with a penis on screen...

[Marionetten]

Ringo12 wrote...

I don't see the big deal with a penis on screen...

Oh trust me, it's a very BIG deal when it comes to Geralt.

[marshalleck]

Ringo12 wrote...

I don't see the big deal with a penis on screen...

I suppose it's only fair if we've got Triss and quite a few other ladies baring all. ****** for tat as they say. And I can't think of a better way to troll the white straight male so-called "majority" demographic who demand exclusivity. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 mai 2011 - 02:44 .

[MonkeyLungs]

The fear of showing the man meat is the greatest of the fears when it comes to sexualized content in media. Even in R rated films with quite intense love/sex scenes I don't think they ever show an erect penis.

Modifié par MonkeyLungs, 27 mai 2011 - 02:54 .

[marshalleck]

Because 90% of the male audience would be left feeling uncomfortable and inadequate, and would have to go prove how masculine they are by doing something completely retarded like hanging rubber testicles from the hitch of their lift-kit truck (which they exclusively drive around paved urban environments)

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 mai 2011 - 02:57 .

[spirosz]

Sorry if this has been said before, but I think it all comes down to how they portray the scene for the specific character. I could care less if there is nudity or if they're full clothed, I care about the emotional aspect of the scene. What the two individuals are expressing and what works with the character that is being romanced. For example, my favourite romance scene is from ME2 and is the Jack scene(Paragon/before suicide mission), why? Because in my opinion, it worked with her character and they were taking it slow and showed how fragile she really is - with her crying and making sure that moment together mattered.

Another example, Merril. I really enjoyed that one because I thought it worked well with what Bioware wanted to portray for her character, nervous/shy, Hawke would be there for her, even if her clan wouldn't.

Again, this is all opinion based, but that's what I want anyway

Modifié par spiros9110, 27 mai 2011 - 03:13 .

[MonkeyLungs]

Jack should have been showing her nipples the whole game, with some awesome piercings in them too. The little straps that covered only her nipples were so pointlessly lame I just want to slap someone. Why are people so afraid of naked bodies??? Nipples are amazing BTW ... just sayin.

[Dangerfoot]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

Jack should have been showing her nipples the whole game, with some awesome piercings in them too. The little straps that covered only her nipples were so pointlessly lame I just want to slap someone. Why are people so afraid of naked bodies??? Nipples are amazing BTW ... just sayin.

I saw a couple pictures of Jack topless in some kind of ME2 guide or concept art book or something, and it was seriously far less vulgar to see her bare chest than to have tiny straps covering her nipples.

[JamesMoriarty123]

DA2 claims to be "dark fantasy" but it doesn't even have the balls to show some boobage?

The romances were so paper weight in DA2 anyway, it was hard to enjoy them. The fact that there were no real dialogue options, just MASSIVE HEART ICONS didn't make it any more enjoyable. Sure, in ME/ME2 all you have to do is talk to someone enough, but at least it's not blatantly obvious and it actually feels natural.

And man, the actual "love" scenes in DA2, come on...what are we? 12? Merrill in a badly drawn corset thing with awkward animation popping through Hawkes body...bleh bleh bleh. Was crap.

The only game to get it completely right has been Mass Effect 1. Oh and Baldur's Gate 2, where you just have to actually imagine everything that's happening, like reading a book.

The Witcher 1's "cards" were a little tacky, but better than anything the DA series has produced (and for those who say they're misogynistic, do you even know what the word means? Geralt doesn't hate women you nubs, he LOVES em!) and I can't comment on TW2 as I've yet to play it, but I'd lay down cash money that they got waaaaaay better than DA1/DA2.

[Nimrodell]

marshalleck wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

I don't see the big deal with a penis on screen...

I suppose it's only fair if we've got Triss and quite a few other ladies baring all. ****** for tat as they say. And I can't think of a better way to troll the white straight male so-called "majority" demographic who demand exclusivity. 

Aaaa, Marshalleck, this was good one, my people would say for this - your words should turn into gold lol. Tbh, it seems to me that CD Projekt Red assumes that only males are playing The Witcher so, female nudity is ok, but male one is... meh lol. I've played TW1 many times and had two playthroughs of TW2 already, I did watch Developer's Diaries and my suspicions were confirmed - all male writers, no female whatsoever... now I'm a female player, so where's my piece of cake (tbh, couldn't care less for male nudity in games or female one - but isn't that hypocritical, CD Projekt Red is awesome for their boldness as long as they don't show Geralt's tool? lol - ah well, have to admit that the scene with Dethmold loosing testicles was actually bold move lol).

Now, as a female, I'm grateful to BW for including my gender's PoV in storyline and even tho Sapkowsky's Geralt is canon, I don't see the reason for not including female version in the game itself (tho if Polish are same as my Serbs, and seems to me that they are, I think it'll never happen - guess that's how it goes with Slavic nations lol).

Anyway, DA2 and ME had female writers on their team and that's visible, but also something that got out of hands - just look at the 'cry baby' Anders... c'mon, the man is capable of major massacre, he shouldn't be such cry baby all the time... yes, we females like vulnerable males with dark pasts and sensitivity... but also, we want our man to be man (looking at Geralt even tho Geralt is me lol... ouch, meaning as a girl I'm more man than some DA2 emo boys).

Sex scenes? Best done in ME1 and that's how it should work - sensitive, erotic, with good taste...

[Perles75]

I'm bored of this comparison with TW2.

I have to admit that I am a bit ambivalent towards the love scenes of DA2. I have only the experience with the Anders romance: there are pretty intense love dialogues, muuuuch better and involving than DAO, but the actual lovemaking scenes are a bit lame (even the dialogue after the first night shows the characters speaking fully equipped!).
I believe there's a mid-way between lameness and pornography, that's what the devs should aim at.

[Perles75]

Nimrodell wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

I don't see the big deal with a penis on screen...

I suppose it's only fair if we've got Triss and quite a few other ladies baring all. ****** for tat as they say. And I can't think of a better way to troll the white straight male so-called "majority" demographic who demand exclusivity. 

Aaaa, Marshalleck, this was good one, my people would say for this - your words should turn into gold lol. Tbh, it seems to me that CD Projekt Red assumes that only males are playing The Witcher so, female nudity is ok, but male one is... meh lol. I've played TW1 many times and had two playthroughs of TW2 already, I did watch Developer's Diaries and my suspicions were confirmed - all male writers, no female whatsoever... now I'm a female player, so where's my piece of cake

I'm gay and of course I also don't get what I would like to see in TW2, but it would be pointless to complain. Simply, TW2 is not planned for that, and not because "CD projekt red thinks only male players exist", but because The Witcher is Geralt's story, not the character-chosen-by-the-player's story, told from the point of view of Geralt, and Geralt is not really interested in showing his own stuff

[Nimrodell]

@ Perles 75: That's why all this comparing of BW games and The Witcher is stupid... said that many times on other topic, in their basics, those are different types of RPG - BW games more focused on interaction with npcs, those that follow you, TW is focused on Geralt himself - as I said, there are talimancers, garrusmancers, anders fans, but there are no dandelionmancers or zoltanmancers - 'cause that's not the focus of TW. Simple as that.

As for CD Projekt Red thinks only male players exist - I wouldn't be so firm on claiming otherwise - I didn't say it only 'cause of Geralt being only male - I said it 'cause I played both games and there are other aspects in those that actually resemble cheap, immature and shallow male fantasies... not that I mind 'em, mind you! lol Geralt is, after all prototype of machoism in many ways, especially in TW1... to be clear on this, I'm happy today, 'cause Steam is finally finishing downloading patch 1.1 for me, meaning, finally I'll be able to re-map the key bindings... and that's why I said that CD Projekt Red works mainly for the male population - having radial menu bound to Ctrl is big bummer for female players - guys, we have smaller hands and fingers and having such essential thing bound to Ctrl by default without possibility of changing it, makes things harder for our more subtle and smaller gender. If one wants to cover both genders, well, bind such things on Shift or Space, otherwise you'll have angry, berserking female swearing at her own nature and constitution... But, I'm ok now, patch is here so I'm good.
And as for Geralt's or Anders' or Fenris' or even Garrus' stuff, not interested to see those, but it proves the point of my post... female nudity is ok, other types of nudity are not - that's just selling something. Double standards and all that jazz... same as condemning nudity in games as immoral but being ok with decapitations, gore, tortures and killings... that's just BS if you ask me.

[Annie_Dear]

Inzhuna wrote...

People keep praising Witcher 2 for uncensored nudity, but do we ever see Geralt fully nude?

...you want to see that guy naked?

Joking aside, I agree with your post.