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[aries1001]

I only played the demo (waiting for the vacation money to roll in, yaah...). But based solely on the demo for DA2 it is not a zero (0) nor is it a ten (10). I'd give it a solid 8/10, maybe 8.5/10... A 0 or 1 or even a 2 or 3 should be reserved for games that are totally unplayable, like Daikatana where even the demo were unplayable...

The Danish magazine GamePlay gave DA2 a 7/10, but their scores are a bit on the harsh site. A 7/10 rating means that DA2 is a good game; other sites might give DA2 a 9/10 because all good games deserve a 9/10 (reminds of the teacher who gave all his students A's...)

[Rockpopple]

I find it hilarious that people here claim "not to take professional reviews seriously"... but they'll take User scores of 0s, 1s, 2s and 3s and 10s for a game that's not even close to that low or high a score as gospel truth from veddy veddy serious players. What a joke.

When the same guy with multiple e-mail address and his troll buddies can go and gimp a score with 0s and 10s, that makes metacritic a psychological reflection, not an accurate one.

[astrallite]

AlanC9 wrote...

When did we start taking Metacritic user scores seriously in the first place? I don't remember any chatter about them before DA2.

Until Bioware devs said to look at the scores because they trust them...

[MorrigansLove]

Rockpopple wrote...

I find it hilarious that people here claim "not to take professional reviews seriously"... but they'll take User scores of 0s, 1s, 2s and 3s and 10s for a game that's not even close to that low or high a score as gospel truth from veddy veddy serious players. What a joke.

When the same guy with multiple e-mail address and his troll buddies can go and gimp a score with 0s and 10s, that makes metacritic a psychological reflection, not an accurate one.

Don't worry about them, they're idiots.

[Spalinin]

Bioware is busying playing The Witcher 2 for how to make a real RPG, seriously, TW2 just raised the bar for the so called BIG studios.

[abaris]

Rockpopple wrote...

I find it hilarious that people here claim "not to take professional reviews seriously"... but they'll take User scores of 0s, 1s, 2s and 3s and 10s for a game that's not even close to that low or high a score as gospel truth from veddy veddy serious players. What a joke.

 

There's a reason why I personally don't take professional reviews seriously: I'm working in the media and PR business and know how its done from the inside. Where I worked so far, there hasn't been a single review that hasn't been either bought or has been done as a favor to be returned in some other way. Say, maybe a little product sample on the side?

As for the user reviews, if you are able to read, you see what that particular user disliked. I don't care for the scores, but I get a pretty good picture, if they are talking about repetitive environments, an empty city as the major location, static NPCs and spawning enemies. Add to this my own experience with the demo, the anime fights complete with exploding enemies and I get a pretty good picture of how I'm totally not into that kind of style.

So yes, I take these user reviews more seriously, even more so, since everyone is pointing out the same flaws.

MorrigansLove wrote...

Don't worry about them, they're idiots.

If you trust a professional review, I can only say have fun with your rose tinted glasses. The industry certainly needs more people like you.

Spalinin wrote...

Bioware is busying playing The Witcher 2
for how to make a real RPG, seriously, TW2 just raised the bar for the
so called BIG studios.

Also down to tastes. I for one am not into fixed protagonists. That in itself goes against what I want to experience when playing a RPG.

Modifié par abaris, 24 mai 2011 - 07:09 .

[Elhanan]

Personally, I treat the Pro and User reviews much the same; glance at the rating, sift thru for info on the game, see if there are any glitches, etc. While there may be reasons to be skeptical of pro reviews, they often contain more game intel than many user reviews, so I use them both.

Just not metacritc....

[Spalinin]

Elhanan wrote...

Personally, I treat the Pro and User reviews much the same; glance at the rating, sift thru for info on the game, see if there are any glitches, etc. While there may be reasons to be skeptical of pro reviews, they often contain more game intel than many user reviews, so I use them both.

Just not metacritc....

Gotta be one of the more moronic thigns I have ever heard, the game The witcher has more customization but a mile then DA 2, Hawke was a pretty static character. The rest of tw2 is full of customization. You cant colur his hair so your msising out on one of the best RPG's in many years? How old are you? 2?

[abaris]

Spalinin wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Personally, I treat the Pro and User reviews much the same; glance at the rating, sift thru for info on the game, see if there are any glitches, etc. While there may be reasons to be skeptical of pro reviews, they often contain more game intel than many user reviews, so I use them both.

Just not metacritc....

Gotta be one of the more moronic thigns I have ever heard, the game The witcher has more customization but a mile then DA 2, Hawke was a pretty static character. The rest of tw2 is full of customization. You cant colur his hair so your msising out on one of the best RPG's in many years? How old are you? 2?

By quoting Elhanan you're probably insulting the wrong person. Don't worry, I'm sure you meant me, but since your impressive linguistical mastership coupled with an endearing choice of words rather speak for themselves, I can only return the question: How old are you?

Modifié par abaris, 24 mai 2011 - 07:24 .

[Elhanan]

Spalinin wrote...

Gotta be one of the more moronic thigns I have ever heard, the game The witcher has more customization but a mile then DA 2, Hawke was a pretty static character. The rest of tw2 is full of customization. You cant colur his hair so your msising out on one of the best RPG's in many years? How old are you? 2?

I wish, then I would only be a single year older than someone's IQ....

It does not matter if TW does become GOTY; cannot play twitch games. As a rule, I do not swear, so the reported frequency of profanity might be not only be irriatating, but may break immersion. I do not require to see pixelated nudity and sex, and prefer games that do not include them.

But I cannot recall mentioning customization, so perhaps I am not the moronic 2 yr old here.

[Spalinin]

Elhanan wrote...

Spalinin wrote...

Gotta be one of the more moronic thigns I have ever heard, the game The witcher has more customization but a mile then DA 2, Hawke was a pretty static character. The rest of tw2 is full of customization. You cant colur his hair so your msising out on one of the best RPG's in many years? How old are you? 2?

I wish, then I would only be a single year older than someone's IQ....

It does not matter if TW does become GOTY; cannot play twitch games. As a rule, I do not swear, so the reported frequency of profanity might be not only be irriatating, but may break immersion. I do not require to see pixelated nudity and sex, and prefer games that do not include them.

But I cannot recall mentioning customization, so perhaps I am not the moronic 2 yr old here.

Ignorance is bliss, Da 2 is more odf a twitch game then TW2, the combat in that is quite tactical ala demons souls.

Funny, the old, insult the poster routine, proves what I was saying was correct.

Sex is a part of real life, and TW2 does a good job of keeping at a part of it, again, how old are you? LMAo @ the prude who thinsk we should pretend sex, relatiobnship s dont exist. Games have matured somewhat, to bad you still blush at the sign of a boob.

Any game with a hint of deep, story and maturity will have sex in it.

Modifié par Spalinin, 24 mai 2011 - 07:29 .

[abaris]

Elhanan wrote...


But I cannot recall mentioning customization, so perhaps I am not the moronic 2 yr old here.

Look above - he probably meant me, but it was a tad to difficult to hit the right quote button.

[xkg]

@Dalira Yes you are right. But only TW1. TW2 is based on new CDP-R engine.

[xkg]

@Dalira No clue really i'am currently short on money so i can't get my copy of it right now.

[Elhanan]

Spalinin wrote...

Ignorance is bliss, Da 2 is more odf a twitch game then TW2, the combat in that is quite tactical ala demons souls.

Funny, the old, insult the poster routine, proves what I was saying was correct.

Sex is a part of real life, and TW2 does a good job of keeping at a part of it, again, how old are you? LMAo @ the prude who thinsk we should pretend sex, relatiobnship s dont exist. Games have matured somewhat, to bad you still blush at the sign of a boob.

Any game with a hint of deep, story and maturity will have sex in it.

Then you must be a very blissful person.

I can play DA2; have the hours to prove it, so not a twich game. Yet TW is full of reviews using the term clickfest, twitch, etc; just read what is posted, and do not purchase what is deemed undesirable.

Eating and going to the bathroom is also a part of life; don't want to see that either. Games may have matured; gamers maybe not so much, based on your final line alone.

And after reading your post, I do not find myself blushing at all; think about it....

Modifié par Elhanan, 24 mai 2011 - 09:20 .

[Maverick827]

Another gripe about Metacritic: the name is all wrong. They attempted to use the prefix "meta" like it is used in metadata (data about data) but, considering the function of their website, it makes no sense. They are not critiquing the critiques, they simply perform mathematical calculations on them. That's not metacritiquing at all! This paragraph, however, is.

Modifié par Maverick827, 24 mai 2011 - 09:00 .

[John Epler]

Yes, refer to other users as morons and ask if they're 2 years old. That'll end well.

[Savber100]

Great to see the excellent representation of Witcher and hardcore RPG fans with their mature insults like "morons" and questioning the IQ of anyone that opposes them.

*claps*

If this is what being a hardcore RPGer is like than I'll side with the whiny COD fanboy anyday. At least, they have a valid excuse.


In all honesty, step back and tell me why the classical hardcore fans of RPGs are any different in intelligence in comparison to the casual gamer.

Here's a hint: There is NONE. We all whine, we're divisive, and we **** no matter what. <_<

Modifié par Savber100, 24 mai 2011 - 09:30 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Spalinin wrote...
Any game with a hint of deep, story and maturity will have sex in it.

.... um, no. Maturity does not have a set of requirements. 

[Pedro Costa]

Spalinin wrote...
Ignorance is bliss, Da 2 is more odf a twitch game then TW2, the combat in that is quite tactical ala demons souls.

Indeed ignorance trully is bliss.
In DA2 I can pause combat, plan a strategy, issue orders, pre-set tactics for my party and watch it all play out. In TW2 I have no pause screen and have to keep on clicking the mouse every time I want to hit with the sword, with a sluggish response to parry and evade.
Q and R for magic and item? Seriously? One power at a time? I have to access a radial menu that slows down time[read: doesn't stop it]; pick a power for which I have no description and has a weird name to boot so either I memorized what it freaking does or I have to use a trial & error approach, which means I die while trying to find the proper magic I wanted to use. Amazing gameplay there, no doubt.

Funny, the old, insult the poster routine, proves what I was saying was correct.

Funny you doing the same.

Sex is a part of real life, and TW2 does a good job of keeping at a part of it, again, how old are you? LMAo @ the prude who thinsk we should pretend sex, relatiobnship s dont exist. Games have matured somewhat, to bad you still blush at the sign of a boob

Sex exists, yes. But sex and nudity just for being there while not enriching the story and only existing for fanservice feels immature to some, me included.

I mean, just look at the start of the freaking game! We're fed, pretty much immediately, with a gratuitious nudity scene for no reason other than "Look, we have nude womenz! Look at zeh nipples with them aureolas! And don't forget the lower pelvic regions!" 
Real maturity, indeed. Not saying Miranda's gratuitious ass-shots were any better, tho.

Not saying DA2 is better than TW2 either, btw.

[In Exile]

Maverick827 wrote...

Another gripe about Metacritic: the name is all wrong. They attempted to use the prefix "meta" like it is used in metadata (data about data) but, considering the function of their website, it makes no sense. They are not critiquing the critiques, they simply perform mathematical calculations on them. That's not metacritiquing at all! This paragraph, however, is.

Mathacritic?

[inkjay]

LOL is that DarkLord_PTguy seriously complaining because you can't use all 5 signs at the same time, and you have to *gasp* memorize what each does? Or because you can't pause the game to give orders in an ARPG. God forbifd you have to read 2 pages of the manual to understand how combat works!

Good joke, now I get why Bioware made DA2 the way they did, THIS is their audience. Sorry Bioware, now I get you and feel bad for you, these people get confused by why you have to click to attack...

[Elhanan]

inkjay wrote...

LOL is that DarkLord_PTguy seriously complaining because you can't use all 5 signs at the same time, and you have to *gasp* memorize what each does? Or because you can't pause the game to give orders in an ARPG. God forbifd you have to read 2 pages of the manual to understand how combat works!

Good joke, now I get why Bioware made DA2 the way they did, THIS is their audience. Sorry Bioware, now I get you and feel bad for you, these people get confused by why you have to click to attack...

... and click, and click, and click, or so I hear....