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[Chugster]

Just wondering, i usually go opposite to my main...if she is ranged i pick melee, if she is melee i pick a ranged companion...does this make a real difference?

I only difference i can see between, say Varric and Isabela, is that Varric has better AOE and Izzy is better single target dps...so would i be gimping myself taking Izzy with a DW rogue Hawke?

[SuicidalBaby]

The point of bringing a second rogue would to supply that which you lack. As pc DW, that would be utility, Sabatoge, Scoundrel, pinning shot, and kickback working to keep enemies off you.

[foil-]

I found in my playthrough that my choice of Izabella vs. Varric was dependent on the situation I was going in on. If I was heading on a mage adversary heavy issue I chose Izabella since she could protect my mage well enough, dispatch enemy mages quickly, and occasionally do her area of effect backstab move. Variric came in when I wanted a little more resilient protection for my mages (various knockbacks in his tallents) and could slow the approach of enemy heavies using his rain of arrows and pinning shot. Also that archers lance thingy, which stopped working very well in later levels, was effective against large groups trying to swarm through doorways and such.

Modifié par foil-, 22 mai 2011 - 05:23 .

[Wulfram]

I had a lot of fun with Isabela, DW Hawke and Aveline with fully upgraded battle synegy. Though I left Izzy behind for the High Dragon.

Remember that Hawke can always equip a bow if the situation calls for an archer.

[Chugster]

well i really just want to know if having 2 rogues both doing melee dps is a bad thing...i tend to pick companions based on their banter rather than their abilities...so i just wanted to check i wasnt making things harder for myself

This situation only comes up if im using a melee hawke and want izzy in the team...i could make her an archer (which i did for my warrior run), but it didnt quite feel right...i just dont want limit my AOE capability for the sake of a group 'feeling right'

[Wulfram]

I don't find archer's AoE abilities particularly significant anyway. .

[frustratemyself]

If you give Anders or Merril elemental then Varric or Seb can take advantage of the brittles quite nicely with Archer's Lance or Bursting Arrow to dish out a lot of damage. Just watch the ff, especially with Archer's Lance.

[be Realistic]

i found that if i wasnt constantly micro managing isabella she would die pretty quick or wouldnt attack anyone at all....
even though i spent like 2 hours playing around with tactics on 3 seperate occasions.

although being a melee rogue is ten times funner
having a ranged rogue on your team is more practical

[be Realistic]

and i understand that pausing for the talent/spell wheel is a big part of the game and that it is meant to micro manage.

but they made the combat to be hack and slash
u can't have both bioware!

[SuicidalBaby]

be Realistic wrote...

i found that if i wasnt constantly micro managing isabella she would die pretty quick or wouldnt attack anyone at all....
even though i spent like 2 hours playing around with tactics on 3 seperate occasions.

although being a melee rogue is ten times funner
having a ranged rogue on your team is more practical

I beg to differ...

Isabella :

Stats :
Respec immediately so you can deal with locks and traps.
20 cunning - first thing
24 dex - req for Arm of Adruil & Cruel Dagger
28 dex - to keep attack % proper
30 cunning - req for complex traps in Deep Roads
1 dex, 1 cuning, 1 con for 4 levels
40 cunning before Act 3s Master level requirements
dex should be high enough for 70% crit before Valiant Aura & Unforgiving Chain
then cotinue to raise cunning and con

Build :

1. Backstab (default)
2. Stealth (default) - Respec to Back-to-Back
3. Evade (default) - Respec to Blindside
4. Unforgiving Chain
5. Explosive Strike
6. Perforate
7. Twin Fangs
8. Invisable Friend
9. Precision
10. Reverse Grip
11/12. Respec just before Deep Roads

Respec:
1. Unforgiving Chain
2. Explosive Strike
3. Backstab
4. Merciless Strike
5. Twin Fangs
6. Reverse Grip
7. Blindside
8. Back-to-back
9. Arcross the Bow
10. Savvy
11. Experienced Hand
12. Invisable Friend
13. Sea Legs
End Act 1

14. Follow-Through
15. All Hands on Deck
16. Brand
17. Shore Leave
18. Murder
19. Perforate
20. Armitice
21. Goad
+22. all you

Tactics :

self: hp <25%: Health Poultice
enemy: attacking Isabela: use current condition for next tactic
Avaline: any: Back-to-back
enemy: STAGGERED: use current condition for next tactic
enemy: elite or higher: Explosive Strike
enemy: elite or higher: Twin Fangs
enemy: normal or higher: Twin Fangs
enemy: attacking Hawke: Backstab
enemy: attacking Anders: Backstab
Isabela: being attacked by melee or ranged: use current condition for next tactic
Aveline: any: Goad
self: surrounded by 4 enemies: All Hands on Deck
Anders: being attacked by melee: Armitice
Hawke: being attacked by melee: Armitice
self: stamina: <10%: Stamina Draught
enemy: attacking Anders: Attack
enemy: attacking Hawke: Attack
enemy: attacking Avaline: Attack

be Realistic wrote...

and i understand that pausing for the talent/spell wheel is a big part of the game and that it is meant to micro manage.

but they made the combat to be hack and slash
u can't have both bioware!

Actually it does work both ways, there are plenty of videos of no pause playstyle and pausing micromanaging playstyle throughout these forums.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 23 mai 2011 - 03:49 .

[foil-]

If its a dialogue thing, regarding the chit chat, why handcuff yourself with one or the other. There is plenty of time in the game to take both companions and get the most out of the dialogue for both of them. Why limit yourself?

[be Realistic]

i suppose hack n slash for normal and easy

pause and choose for hard and nightmare

[SuicidalBaby]

Point, missing it. Ah well.