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[Brockololly]

Nothing ground breaking and certainly nothing you couldn't tell by playing the game, but I saw this interview with  voice director Ginny McSwain, who has worked on many past BioWare titles including ME1, ME2 and DA.

I'll just quote the relevant Dragon Age 2 bit:

Retroplayer- Ginny, there has been some negative fan reaction to the writing quality and relatively short development  time on Dragon Age 2. On your end of things did you notice any  differences in quality compared to Dragon Age: Origins and were you  given less time to record the dialogue?

Ginny- Yes, I agree.  I was only  involved in spurts of the recording on DA 2…I didn’t get a chance to get involved with the story as I had before.  Recordings appeared to be  fast and furious, and it was definitely not the same experience as when I was working on a higher-quality level with another director.

Nothing new really, but you add it with what Inon Zur said and its just more evidence that for whatever reason, this game got chucked out the door as fast as possible.

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 mai 2011 - 07:57 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Indeed. A shame, DA2 is good given that it was rushed out so fast, if they were given the right amount of time, it could have easily been RPG of the year. Wasted potential. Ah well, lets hope they learn from this and don't do the same with the DLC/expansions and DA3.

[Mr.House]

You also forgot when Gaider said he did not like the short time he had to write the story Brock.

[deserk]

Blaaargh. I hate when they rush games.

Is EA the reason for this short development deal? Wouldn't be the first time they stained the game industry.

Please, BioWare, for the love of the Maker, use a reasonable span of time for development. Do what needs to be done to make it as good or if not better as Dragon Age Origins.

[Brockololly]

And really, I don't ultimately care how long it takes for them to make the game. If they can push out a brilliant game in a week while having a zillion people work on it, fantastic.

But it definitely seems that BioWare's best work is when they have sufficient time to work on things and not just pump out an annual sequel to appease shareholder/EA demands to justify the $800 million or so it took EA to buy up BioWare and Pandemic back in 07. Maybe that nets EA/BioWare some short term gains, but if the quality is lacking thats going to do far more long term damage to their image- not only DA as a franchise but the BioWare name overall.

[LiquidGrape]

Considering the short development time, I think it's commendable that McSwain, and of course the voice talent, got so much out of the time they had.
Lady Hawke, Isabela, Aveline, Varric and Merrill are some of the finest voice performances I've heard in a game.
Compared to other recent titles with far lengthier development time, the strengths of DA2's characterisation becomes even more apparent.

[Mr.House]

I personally think EA has learned there lesson. Even DA2 fans have criticized the game for it's short coming and DA2 sales are nowhere near DAO sales.

[jlb524]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Considering the short development time, I think it's commendable that McSwain, and of course the voice talent, got so much out of the time they had.
Lady Hawke, Isabela, Aveline, Varric and Merrill are some of the finest voice performances I've heard in a game.
Compared to other recent titles with far lengthier development time, the strengths of DA2's characterisation becomes even more apparent.

I agree....some of the voice-work was simply outstanding and the best I've heard in any of their games.

[Skilled Seeker]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I personally think EA has learned there lesson. Even DA2 fans have criticized the game for it's short coming and DA2 sales are nowhere near DAO sales.

Good, good.

*runs away before she gets flamed*

They made more profit with DA2 than DAO though. DAO barely scraped even. So speaking from a purely short term business perspective, DA2 was the bigger success.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 22 mai 2011 - 08:53 .

[_Aine_]

The voice acting in the DA series is better than many games. Too bad if it was rushed though. Rushing makes it incredibly hard to focus AND maintain a decent quality level.

My favorite quote from that article though:

" I’m focusing on whoever wants to hire me! First come, first served. As long as the subject matter interests me and I work with non-****!@#%@. "

lol

[Chickenhawked]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

They made more profit with DA2 than DAO though. DAO barely scraped even. So speaking from a purely short term business perspective, DA2 was the bigger success.

But DA:O gained them 5 million fans.  DA2 turned off 3 million of those fans.  Potential sales are way more important to investors than current petty sales, and DA2 destroyed consumer trust, and therefore potential sale prospects.

No one was expecting another DA:O; DA:O's scope was too enormous to possibly follow.  I certainly wasn't expecting DA2 to be better than DA:O--were you?  Most people didn't think that was possible.

What I WAS expecting was that DA2 would have some of the soul DA:O has.  It doesn't.  DA2 is DA:O stripped to its bones, and everyone saw through that facade.

[Great_Horn]

Well, maybe BW never had the intention to accomplish a full game with DA:2. That would buy them time. If they would skip real expansion packs they could expand the storyline with DLCs for years with a higher payoff.

[axl99]

All things considered, the VAs did pretty good.

Better than the performances I've heard out of Witcher 2 for the past 10 hours I've been playing it.

[LiquidGrape]

axl99 wrote...

All things considered, the VAs did pretty good.

Better than the performances I've heard out of Witcher 2 for the past 10 hours I've been playing it.

Oh, the writing and voice performances in that game is just a goldmine of cringe.

[Drz]

Chickenhawked wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

They made more profit with DA2 than DAO though. DAO barely scraped even. So speaking from a purely short term business perspective, DA2 was the bigger success.

But DA:O gained them 5 million fans.  DA2 turned off 3 million of those fans.  Potential sales are way more important to investors than current petty sales, and DA2 destroyed consumer trust, and therefore potential sale prospects.

No one was expecting another DA:O; DA:O's scope was too enormous to possibly follow.  I certainly wasn't expecting DA2 to be better than DA:O--were you?  Most people didn't think that was possible.

What I WAS expecting was that DA2 would have some of the soul DA:O has.  It doesn't.  DA2 is DA:O stripped to its bones, and everyone saw through that facade.

Woah there, claiming DA2 turned off 3 million fans is just ridicilous, no matter how much whine you see on the internet forums, the forum community barely scraps the surface. Sure they have alot of convincing to do for DA3, but i wouldn't say they lost  millions of their fans at all.

[Brockololly]

And to be fair to TW2, its a Polish game with the English being localized. So comparing TW2's English voice acting would be like comparing DA2's other localized versions, which I don't think stack up as favorably as the native English, or so I've heard.

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 mai 2011 - 09:16 .

[Epic Legion]

Copy&paste locations is more than enough proof for me.

[xkg]

Drazlol wrote...

but i wouldn't say they lost  millions of their fans at all.

You realy don't have to.  The sales are speaking in this case.

[Zjarcal]

Brockololly wrote...

And to be fair to TW2, its a Polish game with the English being localized. So comparing TW2's English voice acting would be like comparing DA2's other localized versions, which I don't think stack up as favorably as the native English, or so I've heard.

Meh, I'll judge the VA I get in my game. I got english (in TW1 anyway), so that's what I'll judge.

Oh, and I thought it was common knowledge that DA2 was rushed. Do we really need any more proof than what's in the game?

Modifié par Zjarcal, 22 mai 2011 - 09:36 .

[Wulfram]

DA2's voice acting is pretty good. It's one thing Bioware's consistently does well nowadays.