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Combat is fine imo. Obviously, it's not for everyone, but if you've played European Action RPGs like Gothic, Risen or Divinity 2, you would probably be able to get the hang of it. They say it also bears similarity to Demon Souls.

Voice acting is decent, not excellent, but the game's native language is Polish, English is a localization.

As for characters incapable of showing emotion, I don't know... it's relatively similar to Bioware games. Sometimes the characters have wooden expressions, but when put into perspective, it's fine. That is to say, compared to LA Noire, all other companies with the exception of Valve suck on facial expressions.

Then again, I'm not a huge cutscene guy. I love it when a cutscene displays an event and deliver it with emotion (when Foltest <spoilers>), which Witcher 2 definitely had. When it comes to ordinary conversation, I really wish it didn't go cinematic and voiced.

I understand that "it's the way things are now" and everything, but you can pack much more depth through text alone imo. Would make things easier for writers to create branching paths, too. A mix would be nice. Important and critical conversations could be cutscened and voiced, whereas the less critical stuff could just be text and a pop-up box.

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Then if he meant he never got past prologue then thats what should have said.

Obviously different stroke for different folks as far as every title goes but I never found anything wrong with combat in TW1. The story gets better and better as progress but even at the start with prologue it did it's job very well in setting up teaching how to play before putting you into the world where real game starts. Thats all the prologue was.

In TW2 they made it vastly better as far as prologue is concerned but to me it was never that bad to begin with. I far prefer it to DA2 of running up hill with random family members dropped on you with no backstory, one killed with more random people dropped on you then taking a boat signing up to a job and then skipping the entire year which that job entailed. It was a cheap and nasty way of doing it and I dislike it.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Then if he meant he never got past prologue then thats what should have said.


I passed Prologue but I stopped playing it afterward.
Boring as hell game mechanic.

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RPG of the year is Skyrim's to lose really. It will be coming out so close to the end of the year that it will be freshest in the mind of any voters. (Not terribly unlike the Oscars) As long as its at least as good as any other RPG in that year it will win. If all it is is Oblivion with a prettier engine it will win. Timing is everything.

The only way they could screw it up winning is to release a buggy mess. Or to follow ME3's lead and push back to next year to make perfect.

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Actually, the is a lore reason for Geralt's stoic, almost wooden kind of talking. Heck, even people in the books call him out on it.

And well, too bad you didn't liked the combat system in TW2. I was actually enjoying it and it was far from a simple hack and slash as many people claim.

But different strokes for different folks I guess.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 24 mai 2011 - 02:06 .


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wowpwnslol wrote...

which will undoubtedly bolster Bioware's confidence that they can get away with games like that and still be winners.

I have just played one of the big contenders for RPG of the year, The Witcher 2 and I have to say it's complete garbage. The developers didn't even bother to improve the game, it seems. Combat is as bad as ever. The dialogues are ridiculous as is the whole gameplay. It's another fiasco of a game disguising itself as an "RPG" while being nothing of the sort.

The saddest thing  about current RPG market is as bad as DA2 was, it still remains one of the better RPG games on the market today. I feel Bioware is unfairly exploiting the lack of RPG competition these days and riding their name to big profits.

Who is left to challenge them except ME3, which is their own game?


Mass Effect 3 won't be out until the 1st quarter of 2012.

What about The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim? It looks to be some serious compettion for both Dragon Age II and The Witcher 2.  

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^Let me add Deus Ex 3.

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^u should include dark souls while maybe not many will play it it will probably rinse most if not all other games this year

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Alexander1136 wrote...

From what i've heard about skyrim, that company is doing the same thing that bioware did and removing alot of RPG elements and"streamlining" it. 


They added a perk system with over 280 perks to choose from, they went to a classless system to allow full customization of how your character develops, they've added a new magic/combat system to allow you to customize how you weild spells and weapons, they've added more weapons and armor choices from the previous title, they've added new spell effects, they've added new crafting skills and options to perform secondary crafting, they are increasing character customization options with additional features such as scars, beards, and tattoos not available in OB, and more I probably didn't think of off the top of my head.

If that is what you consider "streamlining" then Bioware is doing it wrong. :lol:

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Avalla'ch wrote...

Actually, the is a lore reason for Geralt's stoic, almost wooden kind of talking. Heck, even people in the books call him out on it.

And well, too bad you didn't liked the combat system in TW2. I was actually enjoying it and it was far from a simple hack and slash as many people claim.

But different strokes for different folks I guess.


I have no issue with Geralt being stoic. I have an issue with the fact that no matter what he is saying his facial expression never changes and he more often than not stares straight ahead while speaking, like most other characters in the game.

The combat isn't simply hack and slash, that doesn't mean it's good. 1vs1 combat can be lots of fun, ducking and rolling parrying, all good stuff.
1vs many becomes "run around like a niny trying to get a few shoots in" or "Throw lots of bombs"
I forgot the last option. Set the game on easy and everybody just kinda of stands around and waits to die

Modifié par Avissel, 24 mai 2011 - 02:24 .


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Avissel wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Actually, the is a lore reason for Geralt's stoic, almost wooden kind of talking. Heck, even people in the books call him out on it.

And well, too bad you didn't liked the combat system in TW2. I was actually enjoying it and it was far from a simple hack and slash as many people claim.

But different strokes for different folks I guess.


I have no issue with Geralt being stoic. I have an issue with the fact that no matter what he is saying his facial expression never changes and he more often than not stares straight ahead while speaking, like most other characters in the game.

The combat isn't simply hack and slash, that doesn't mean it's good. 1vs1 combat can be lots of fun, ducking and rolling parrying, all good stuff.
1vs many becomes "run around like a niny trying to get a few shoots in" or "Throw lots of bombs"
I forgot the last option. Set the game on easy and everybody just kinda of stands around and waits to die


Combat for me as magic spec so far is. Quen, Yrden and Igni (upgraded for AoE) and no need to dodge or roll at all. I swear Quen does most of the work. But whatever you seem to hate it for a dumb reason.

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Actually I like the game, but most of the combat balance is silly.

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Avissel wrote...

Actually I like the game, but most of the combat balance is silly.


I love it reminds me of Demon's Soul.

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Different strokes for different folks and all that.

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Deus Ex 3 and Skyrim will probably end up with my vote for RPG of the year...

Witcher 2 is all good and nice but currently I'm pissed that the developers develop the game with ONLY 16:9 widescreen support with black bars covering 1/3 of the screen. Immersion is near impossible and that's the main reason I play RPGs. Maybe a patch will fix it but until then.
I thought such **** will only come from companies like Ubisoft. I did NOT expect it from CD Projekt.

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Savber100 wrote...

Deus Ex 3 and Skyrim will probably end up with my vote for RPG of the year...

Witcher 2 is all good and nice but currently I'm pissed that the developers develop the game with ONLY 16:9 widescreen support with black bars covering 1/3 of the screen. Immersion is near impossible and that's the main reason I play RPGs. Maybe a patch will fix it but until then.
I thought such **** will only come from companies like Ubisoft. I did NOT expect it from CD Projekt.


This is nothing new from CDProjekt. they have said it would ship like this and said the third patch would most likely have the fix.

Immersion immersion it's the only word people seem to know.

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Absolutely ridiculous thread. The Witcher II is already a country mile ahead of DA2 in terms of metacritic score AND user score, as is LA Noire (if you count that as an RPG), and we also have Skyrim to come into the mix.

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No it won't. That game is pretty much forgotten. Seems to be a battle between Witcher 2, and the Juggernaut that is Skyrim. DA2, is in the pile of dog **** to which it came from.

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Ringo12 wrote...

This is nothing new from CDProjekt. they have said it would ship like this and said the third patch would most likely have the fix.

Immersion immersion it's the only word people seem to know.


Source please?

Even if CDPR did announce that it will ship with only widescreen support, it still is pretty damn pathetic. The only other company that has done that was Ubisoft, the same developers that won't stop using the draconian DRM and always have a fixed widescreen ratio for their PC port games like Assassin Creed and Splinter Cell. In seeing how people have been touting CDPR as the "last hope for PC gaming", I find it sad that they can't even support the most basic screen ratio.

The Witcher 2 is a damn good, pretty game but the black bars that is covering 1/3 of the screen is ruining any hope of getting immersed in the experience. It feels like I'm watching a damn movie.

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Immersion is impossible because it doesn't fit your monitor? Wow.

I am kind of surprised by that decision, though. I didn't think widescreen monitors had anything like that kind of market penetration on PCs.

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Whats sad is hiow brainwashed Elder scrolls fabns are. Remember all the oblivion hype? Radiant AI, living breathing world? Oblivion was one iof the worsdt GAme of the year winners ever, terrible dialog, no choice in quests, no dialog options, cookie cutter dingeons, same environments, terrible leveled system for enemies and loot.

Why are so many saying Skyrim will rule? Like Oblivion did? It may, but most likely for its name. People fall for the style and size of Es game, the content is  horribly shallow.

For Skyrim to be better then The masterpiece that is The Witcher with its deep stopry, choices, amazing detail, deep RPG machanics, it has to be a drastic change to what any other Es game ahs been.

Combat bad in TW2? LMAO, if your a button mashing noob, its a lot lik demos souls, you cannot spam attck, you have to pick your spots, save stamina, use all your tools (Signs, bombs, potions, oils), and watch positioning, keep moving, Comabt is excellent.

I like ES game, they are fun, but the first villiage in TW2 has more detail and depth then most all of oblivion.

Modifié par Spalinin, 24 mai 2011 - 07:04 .


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Oblivion is bad by itself but fan creations have turned that game around into pure gold. Console gamers are missing out yet again. :lol:

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Romantiq wrote...

Oblivion is bad by itself but fan creations have turned that game around into pure gold.

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Yes, thats the point, it takes mod for oblivion to be decent, oblivion by itself is a sad rpg.

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I don't have any high hopes for Skyrim to be amazing story wise. As long as the story is decent, environments are gorgeous, game is stable and mod friendly then that's all I will need out of it to spend hundreds of hours in it. I wasn't at all impressed with Fallout 3 story and Oblivion but TES lore is still there and its great. The only problem is that they are never using it to at least 1/10th of it' potential. That's of course unless they learn from their past mistakes.

That being said, so far for me its Witcher 2 and I am looking forward to what Deus Ex can show me. DAII could have been there with big players but it's just not good in comparison. Oh well, they can pick up some Canadian award and take it home. B)

Modifié par Romantiq, 24 mai 2011 - 07:42 .


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Spalinin wrote...

Romantiq wrote...

Oblivion is bad by itself but fan creations have turned that game around into pure gold.


Yes, thats the point, it takes mod for oblivion to be decent, oblivion by itself is a sad rpg.


Well they are releasing it with full (improved) kit for modders on day one I believe, even better version than did before. I don't see Bioware doing that with DA2. In fact there's a pretty big thread where fans here are begging for such a toolkit and relying on tweaking the old one to cover some parts of DA2.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 24 mai 2011 - 08:35 .