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[Foxhound2020]

You know, it seems everytime I see promos for this series, Shepard is
the same bald bland dude, it's been that way for Mass Effect, Mass
Effect 2, and now it seems Mass Effect 3.

Now come on EA and Bioware, we know perfectly well Shepard is a woman.

You know, it seems everytime I see promos for this series, Lara Croft is the same busty, bland, girl that marketers shove down our face because we have hormones, its been done before. Now we have to see it again in Tomb Raider 3. Not all of us get off on pixels or are girls.

Now come on Eidos, we know perfectly well that Lara Croft is a man.

Modifié par Foxhound2020, 23 mai 2011 - 11:51 .

[charmingcharlie]

I don't know why people get in such a huff over which Shepard Bioware uses for marketing.  Even if they used a femshep for some marketing it would still look strange because it wouldn't look like YOUR femshep.  At the end of the day only 35% play femshep and when it comes to marketing you target the biggest audience you can which happens to be maleshep players.

At least with Mass Effect we are given the option of playing a femshep, in most games you don't even get that option and you have to play generic muscle bound bland hero 2000.

[Kusy]

That, Foxhound, is the dumbest analogy I have ever heard.

[Pedro Costa]

There is so much fail going on in this thread, from both sides.

Shepard is the gender people want Shepard to be. That's that.
BioWare's Shepard is an uncanny model-like male soldier who has an unhealthy obsession with Liara. And that's the Shepard they advertise with.
My main Shepard is an uncanny model-like male vanguard who is torn between a genetically engineered woman and the grandaughter of the general who surrendered at Shanxii.
My other Shepard is a badass woman infiltrator who happens to like KOTOR so much she fell for the first guy that reminded her of Carth.

That's the beauty of Shepard. No Shepard is better than the other. It's all down to preference, and saying one Shep's better than the other simply because that's your preference is, trully, dumb.

I prefer Meer, others prefer Hale. I prefer the LIs for the male Shepard, others prefer the LIs for the female Shepard.
As long as the main game satisfies both kinds of players, why care which Shep BioWare likes to play as?

Besides, brand recognition is a ****.

[Foxhound2020]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

That, Foxhound, is the dumbest analogy I have ever heard.

dumb arguments get dumb analogies.

[Skarwael]

charmingcharlie wrote...
I don't know why people get in such a huff over which Shepard Bioware uses for marketing. Even if they used a femshep for some marketing it would still look strange because it wouldn't look like YOUR femshep...

This.


Just ignore the freaking advertising. It's doesn't make any difference to your gaming experience.

[Gterror]

 

[Captain Crash]

 

ME_Fan wrote...


I just want all the femshep supporters to stop barking and just shut up, it's a matter of opinion.

That statement makes no sense.  You want femshep fans to "shut up" but you want them to have an opinion?


Anyway this thread is terrible.  The thread title doesnt gain anything to begin with and instantly sets a hostile tone. Thus why it only took a couple of posts for the thread to just become an arguement.  Nothing is being gained right now.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

[Darkhour]

Aargh12 wrote...

The same goes fot SW: KotOR 2. Yet canonically Jedi Exile is female.

Never played. Won't comment. Ultimately irrelevant to ME anyway.

a) not in XXII century - augmentations anyone?

As strong as a woman would be with genetic augmentation a man will be stronger.  This is a fact. You can fling all the politically correct BS you want, but it is a fact - A FACT- that a man (all things being equal) will be stronger than woman.

being physically stronger was good in Medieval Ages not in XXI century and beyond

Men are superior in terms of speed, agility, lung capacity, heart capacity, etc. Men are without a doubt physically superior to women. This is scientific FACT. You can close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears all you wanted, but ignoring reality will not make it go away.

Realistically, you're a troll.

Realistically, I said something you don't like and don't want to hear.

Modifié par Darkhour, 23 mai 2011 - 12:23 .

[Dangerfoot]

Wow, elitism? All I saw was support. Anything even resembling elitism was obviously tongue-in-cheek.

We got some sensitive male-Shep enthusiasts.

[ShadowGhost317]

*sigh* Shepard is that default model we see plastered on every Mass Effect advertisement, I don't like it, I don't play as it, but that is who Bioware chose as their poster boy. It's been that way for Mass Effect 1, it was that way for Mass Effect 2 and it will certainly be that way for Mass Effect 3. Complaining that female Shepard isn't on the cover is pretty much a hopeless argument at this point, they aren't going to change the icon they've stuck with for the entire franchise just because you demand it, just like they won't change it to match what I believe Shepard should look like. Shepard whether we like it or not, is simply going to be that model.

Modifié par ShadowGhost317, 23 mai 2011 - 12:32 .

[The BS Police]

Hmm, whats in here...

Modifié par The BS Police, 23 mai 2011 - 12:44 .

[Clonedzero]

Aargh12 wrote...

SHEPARD. IS. MALE.


 

pretty much

[Mudzr]

Doesn't really bother me that much (altough I am male). I see it as the default shepard is the male renegade, and that is the one featured in marketing, but we get to shape our own shepard, unlike all those other games out there.

One of my favourite Shepards is the paragade pansexual femshep (basically only romances aliens... and kelly). Yeah that may not be the "cannon" shep, and she may not appear in adds or anything, but that makes her all the more unique to me. Masseffect, as awesome as it is, tends to have less options for custimisation compared to other bioware games like dragonage, so while i'm happy that there is a single Shepard for marketing to focus on, i'm just glad we get the diversity in the creation of our Sheps that we do.

[mineralica]

Realistically thinking, ads is neither for femShep fans nor for maleShep fans - both sides will buy ME3 anyway. It directed to the newcomers, and most of them going sceptical when see something like "I want you for my crew. Commander Shepard" with an armoured lady above or just assume from nowhere that main hero would be the same that pictured on cover. Coupled with fact that most of the gamers are male it gives us Sheploo who is, by the way, pleasantly looking guy.

[Whereto]

Shepard isn't a male or female, till you decide...bioware made their decision for Shepard to be a guy for them, and they have stuck to it for many different purposes marketing wise. Sure male shep is the official shep, but they aren't denying you the right to play femshep, so get over it, you aren't apart of the marketing team thus you have no clue of statistics supporting any placement of femshep of the cover. Ain't going to happen, as theres a certain to loss with little to no gain

[roflchoppaz]

Default Shep is Sheploo. He is also used for marketing. BW had to make a choice on that.
Canon Shep is whatever the **** you want them to be. Because there is no canon.

Now shut your whining. It's annoying. I'm saying that as a FemShep player.

But this was basically an inb4lock post, I love doing those.

[migang]

I agree with the OP, i was really surprised by the quality of the VA of Jennifer Hale, i enjoyed so much that my "canon" Shepard is my renegade FemShep, heh.

[jellmoo32]

Darkhour wrote...

As strong as a woman would be with genetic augmentation a man will be stronger.  This is a fact. You can fling all the politically correct BS you want, but it is a fact - A FACT- that a man (all things being equal) will be stronger than woman.

Men are superior in terms of speed, agility, lung capacity, heart capacity, etc. Men are without a doubt physically superior to women. This is scientific FACT. You can close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears all you wanted, but ignoring reality will not make it go away.

Modifié par jellmoo32, 23 mai 2011 - 01:38 .

[Aargh12]

Darkhour wrote...
As strong as a woman would be with genetic augmentation a man will be stronger.  This is a fact. You can fling all the politically correct BS you want, but it is a fact - A FACT- that a man (all things being equal) will be stronger than woman.
Men are superior in terms of speed, agility, lung capacity, heart capacity, etc. Men are without a doubt physically superior to women. This is scientific FACT. You can close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears all you wanted, but ignoring reality will not make it go away

And btw, after look at this post I knwo two things:
a) males are stonger than females
females are smarter

End of offtopic.

[Severyx]

Oh look, another FemShep opinion thread. Didn't see THAT coming.

The truth of the matter is that Sheploo is BioWare's 'canon for everyone' Shepard. If you don't change ANYTHING about Shep's appearance to suit your individual tastes, this is what you get. Every customizable face needs to have a default, and BioWare can't market anything BUT the default. This was established long before ME1 hit the shelves, and even longer before a portion of the community started favoring FemShep and offering subjective reasons why she's better than ManShep.

If BioWare started the entire series putting FemShep on the cover and making her the default, then I'm sure all of this would be reversed - FemShep players telling ManShep players to stop their 'vocal minority' opinion threads about why ManShep is better than FemShep and why he should be on the next cover.

EDIT: Sexism will only get a thread locked, so please stop that nonsense.

Modifié par Severyx, 23 mai 2011 - 01:50 .