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They aren't going to use a new engine, not if they want to get DA3 out in time for Xmas 2011.

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There's no way we get DA3 for Xmas 2011 it would be a catastrophe and I think they know it.

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godseiryuu wrote...

There's no way we get DA3 for Xmas 2011 it would be a catastrophe and I think they know it.


*cough DA2* I want them to take a long long time.

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will it be out by Xmas???

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ollec92 wrote...

will it be out by Xmas???

I was kidding.

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astrallite

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X-mas 2012 is possible. That would be your 18 month cycle. Something like December 7-14 release date.

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I am hoping for a spring 2013 release myself.

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christmas 2013 Xbox 3/PS4 launch title

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kaiki01 wrote...

I am hoping for a spring 2013 release myself.

Too soon.

88mphSlayer wrote...

christmas 2013 Xbox 3/PS4 launch title

Only if you want another bad port likeDA:O, that's the reason early software release in a new console cycle is always (with very few exceptions) worse than games release in the last year of the previous generation (see the ps2\\ps3 example or ps1\\ps2, n64\\game cube, xbox\\xbox 360 is an exemption because microsoft pulled the plug to soon on xbox), the only feasible new console to put DA III will be project cafe if the architecture is indeed similar to an ATI r700 chip and doesn't need complicated stuff to port it over, and being EA (they also already have dev jits for the console)  the publisher i assure you that they will make the all the effort to release in almost all similar hardware possible

Modifié par Kuroi Kenshi, 25 mai 2011 - 07:51 .


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My guess is it will be out by Q3 2012

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Those 2 screenshots in the op are from the CryEngine 2, not 3, for people who are curious. CryEngine 2 is pc exclusive but 3 was used to make Crysis 2 on consoles. (The pc version of 2 and 3 looks pretty much the same anyway.)

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Shallina wrote...

You all forgot something very important.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are PC only games, wich mean they got more power and possibility than with multiplatform that need to stick to the lowest system.

Apparently Witcher 2 is coming out for xbox360, though. So that argument no longer needs to apply.

http://www.escapistm...-2-for-Xbox-360

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tmp7704 wrote...

Shallina wrote...

You all forgot something very important.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are PC only games, wich mean they got more power and possibility than with multiplatform that need to stick to the lowest system.

Apparently Witcher 2 is coming out for xbox360, though. So that argument no longer needs to apply.

http://www.escapistm...-2-for-Xbox-360


Thats the scalability of their engine.

Console / PC / tablet / phone comparisons aside - it just goes to show if you make an engine with a high level of scalability - you can appease the hardware requirements of everyone pretty easily.

On lower settings TW2 runs smooth as silk on older systems, doesnt look too bad. On higher settings its brutal but looks STUNNING.

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Icinix wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Shallina wrote...

You all forgot something very important.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are PC only games, wich mean they got more power and possibility than with multiplatform that need to stick to the lowest system.

Apparently Witcher 2 is coming out for xbox360, though. So that argument no longer needs to apply.

http://www.escapistm...-2-for-Xbox-360


Thats the scalability of their engine.

Console / PC / tablet / phone comparisons aside - it just goes to show if you make an engine with a high level of scalability - you can appease the hardware requirements of everyone pretty easily.

On lower settings TW2 runs smooth as silk on older systems, doesnt look too bad. On higher settings its brutal but looks STUNNING.


Well come on A LOT more people can run Witcher 2 on max settings (minus Ubersmapling) then DA2 on max settings. Witcher 2 at least looks gorgeous so I can understand the performance hit but DA2? Not really. 

It's been a week and there is gonna be a patch that improves performance also. Also another patch is on the way after DA2 hasn't been patched for a long long time.

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While they are at it, they should change the music. It has a few very nice tunes (like part of the main menu music) but most of the background music when running around... man, i can't stand it. Sorry, Inon Zur.

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Estel78 wrote...

While they are at it, they should change the music. It has a few very nice tunes (like part of the main menu music) but most of the background music when running around... man, i can't stand it. Sorry, Inon Zur.


I am sure he knows it.. He was pretty much the first one to admit it. :)

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Estel78 wrote...

While they are at it, they should change the music. It has a few very nice tunes (like part of the main menu music) but most of the background music when running around... man, i can't stand it. Sorry, Inon Zur.


In the Wounded Coast I swear the music sounds like it's coming through a low quality radio...yet I play on a 5.1 setup with a Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium card.

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Spring 2013 release would mean they had 3.5 years between Origins and DA3. That seems enough time for a sequal.

Modifié par kaiki01, 26 mai 2011 - 12:34 .


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DA2 not only uses an old, inefficient engine, the visual design makes it look far worse then Origins maxed out.

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Spring 2013 is way too late. No world = no money.

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I'll have to say yes.  The bar has been raised.  DA2 dropped the ball badly with Kirkwall, especially since it was the primary setting.

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And they have to go back to paying attention the little details again.  I mean in the Witcher 2, the city starts out dark at night and person actually walks around and lights the torches all over the city.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Shallina wrote...

You all forgot something very important.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are PC only games, wich mean they got more power and possibility than with multiplatform that need to stick to the lowest system.

Apparently Witcher 2 is coming out for xbox360, though. So that argument no longer needs to apply.

http://www.escapistm...-2-for-Xbox-360


Thats the scalability of their engine.

Console / PC / tablet / phone comparisons aside - it just goes to show if you make an engine with a high level of scalability - you can appease the hardware requirements of everyone pretty easily.

On lower settings TW2 runs smooth as silk on older systems, doesnt look too bad. On higher settings its brutal but looks STUNNING.


Well come on A LOT more people can run Witcher 2 on max settings (minus Ubersmapling) then DA2 on max settings. Witcher 2 at least looks gorgeous so I can understand the performance hit but DA2? Not really. 

It's been a week and there is gonna be a patch that improves performance also. Also another patch is on the way after DA2 hasn't been patched for a long long time.


Thats an easy answer.  The engine DA2 uses takes a  massive hit on Nvidia cards, regardless of patches for the game and the hardware.

Also...I think most gamers these days tend to be gamers first and techies a very distance second (or third). As opposed to it being mutally exclusive.  Change of the times. PC gaming is now just another gaming platform as opposed to a way of life :P

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Ringo12 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Shallina wrote...

You all forgot something very important.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 are PC only games, wich mean they got more power and possibility than with multiplatform that need to stick to the lowest system.

Apparently Witcher 2 is coming out for xbox360, though. So that argument no longer needs to apply.

http://www.escapistm...-2-for-Xbox-360


Thats the scalability of their engine.

Console / PC / tablet / phone comparisons aside - it just goes to show if you make an engine with a high level of scalability - you can appease the hardware requirements of everyone pretty easily.

On lower settings TW2 runs smooth as silk on older systems, doesnt look too bad. On higher settings its brutal but looks STUNNING.


Well come on A LOT more people can run Witcher 2 on max settings (minus Ubersmapling) then DA2 on max settings. Witcher 2 at least looks gorgeous so I can understand the performance hit but DA2? Not really. 

It's been a week and there is gonna be a patch that improves performance also. Also another patch is on the way after DA2 hasn't been patched for a long long time.


yeah, same dx9 graphics card for me - DA2 looks more dated than Oblivion, TW2 looks unbelievable, Crysis 1 & 2 looks amazing, Metro 2033 looks amazing

DA2's graphics just aren't good, even compared to 360 & PS3 games

Modifié par 88mphSlayer, 26 mai 2011 - 04:16 .


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Yeah, after TW, BW needs to be able to make cities/towns that are filled with life and a soul.

I still vote for a new engine, thats as scalable as the RED engine. Better yet, pay CD Projekt a boat load of money for their engine. :P

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Final Fantasy 13 on a PS3 looks better than DA2 on Ultra on a PC. Console limitations...cough