Addai67 wrote...
CulturalGeekGirl wrote...
It's not one, though.
Tell that to Janders. He starts out the game talking about killing Meredith, but by the end he doesn't care who has to die.
That doesn't make it a Jihad. Then again, misuse of that word has become so widespread, it's no wonder that no one has any idea of its actual definition any longer. Still, what Anders did bears absolutely no resemblance to either the traditional use of the term to describe a particular sort of religious imperative, nor the actual deep and varied term as it is understood by scholars. Perhaps it is wiser to simply agree not to use such a term, as to discuss its actual meaning, contrasting it with it's common miscategorization, would cause us to have to invoke far too many real world political examples.
Edit: after some research - unless you are using it as the generic term for a struggle for civil rights, in which case I apologize. In modern standard arabic, he term jihad was used for Ghandi's struggle in India, and for the current struggle for women's rights in the middle east. I would indeed agree that Anders' struggle shares commonalities with both these movements.
If there's one side in all this that has proclaimed an open desire to systematically murder all members of the other side, it's the Templars.
Not so. Not if you're talking about the Chantry as a whole.
I am, explicitly, not doing so. The Chantry advocates only hatred of all mages, and slavery, and endorses the belief that they are a curse, a divine punishment. They count upon their militant arm to actually propose mass murder... they simply endorse such mass murders without trial on a case-by-case basis.
I don't recall anyone taking a survey of all mages to ask what they want- either the Chantry OR Anders. And I think you're wrong that there would be no war, because the population would not want mages to run loose without supervision.
You were implying that the mages were the authors of this violence. They are not. Even if war erupts from this flashpoint (and it looks inevitable) it is the Templar policy that guarantees such a war must be monumentally bloody. There are hundreds of possible positive resolutions for mages, the vast majority of which are peaceful. I have seen no indication anywhere that Templars will consider any solution other than violence, though I may have missed something.
It took until 1992 for people to formally admit that Galileo was unjustly persecuted. I don't think Anders was willing to wait nearly 300 years, here.
Please. There were churchmen in Galileo's time who said Galileo was right- including the pope who encouraged him to write down his theories. Let's not reduce this to simplistic, and ahistorical, examples. Certainly Anders wasn't willing to wait, but the question is- what gives him the right to decide for everyone?
Exactly, this precisely proves my point. Even in a situation like Galileo, where there were prominent thinkers in the church who agreed with him, it took hundreds of years for the doctrine to change. If the questioning of the idea of mage slavery is so antithetical to dogma that a
Chantry brother has never encountered or considered it it, the Chantry must be ultra conservative and strongly poisoned, moreso than any historical example could represent.
Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 31 mai 2011 - 07:47 .
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