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[NM7]

I'd love to see a trailer with femshep in it. Lets hope it happens.

[CroGamer002]

Wait a second.

More RPG elements, gay romances and now it's possible to have FemShep trailer?




IN YOUR FACE "DUMBED DOWN" CROWD!

[Captain Crash]

Phaedon wrote...

@Clonedzero That would be interesting, but it's probably too late to have a potential new Default Shepard become an iconic Shepard like Sheploo. I wouldn't certainly not mind it, though.

I think part of the appeal is she isnt iconic or has a set image unlike male Shepard.  Bioware I believe still have the flexability to show off another femshep model if they choose.  After all most the art and videos out there dont often show Default Jane.  Femshep really does have much more scope.

This isnt a knock on default, but more of an appreciation at how femshep is certainly much more diverse and doesnt instantly conjur up a set image.  Especially when you explore the femshep thread or the Deviant Art Group and see all the variations and diversity out there.


However I think because of what we know as default, Jane would be chosen for any endeavour.  Simply because she will be the most used face for femshep and therefore easily recognisable.  Plus she isnt an "individuals" femshep. Shes everyones potentially.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 24 mai 2011 - 05:12 .

[Vertigo_1]

You know I wish Femshep could be modeled after someone like DudeShep was (default). I think it would make it more BUTTON awesome for a trailer.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 24 mai 2011 - 05:18 .

[Siansonea]

Clonedzero wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

+1 for FemShep trailer. I really wonder how many people out there are simply unaware that you can play as something other than Meathead John Shepard. I don't think I would ever have bought the original Mass Effect game if I didn't know about FemShep. And the only reason I did know was because a friend showed me the game and let me create a character. Female protagonist with customizable appearance was a huge hook for me, then the story and characters reeled me in. Now I've bought an XBox 360, two copies of the first game, the second game on XBox360 and PS3, and I eagerly await the third game—all because of FemShep. FemShep for the win!

how exactly is femshep any less of a meathead?

She doesn't have Sheploo's meathead appearance. You know, appearance? Pretty much all you can evaluate about Shepard from a trailer? My point was about Marketing. How Marketing didn't help me to discover Mass Effect in any way. Was that not clear?

[javierabegazo]

Thanks guys for keeping in mind the Site Rules. While PR may make some marketing decisions that are bizarre, we must still show a measure of respect here on their website.

Once again, I appreciate you all

[Clonedzero]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

You know I wish Femshep could be modeled after someone like DudeShep was (default). I think it would make it more BUTTON awesome for a trailer.

personally i'd prefer if they scanned in 3-4 high quality faces for each gender. i always play as sheploo because its just so much higher quality than anything ive  tried to make.

[Phaedon]

Captain Crash wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

@Clonedzero That would be interesting, but it's probably too late to have a potential new Default Shepard become an iconic Shepard like Sheploo. I wouldn't certainly not mind it, though.

I think part of the appeal is she isnt iconic or has a set image unlike male Shepard.  Bioware I believe still have the flexability to show off another femshep model if they choose.  After all most the art and videos out there dont often show Default Jane.  Femshep really does have much more scope.

This isnt a knock on default, but more of an appreciation at how femshep is certainly much more diverse and doesnt instantly conjur up a set image.  Especially when you explore the femshep thread or the Deviant Art Group and see all the variations and diversity out there.


However I think because of what we know as default, Jane would be chosen for any endeavour.  Simply because she will be the most used face for femshep and therefore easily recognisable.  Plus she isnt an "individuals" femshep. Shes everyones potentially.

Why not use a helmeted FemShep instead?

[wepeel_]

Mesina2 wrote...

Wait a second.

More RPG elements, gay romances and now it's possible to have FemShep trailer?




IN YOUR FACE "DUMBED DOWN" CROWD!

I don't see what a game's trailers have to do with whether or not it's been dumbed down. Some crappy games have had trailers that made them appear awesome, and the other way around; it's all about appearances.

Also not sure what to make of the smugness of some of the female-Shepard "supporters". It's not like that will affect the game, or as if there was a war going on about which Shepard-sex was the best. Or so I thought.

[ADLegend21]

wepeel_ wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Wait a second.

More RPG elements, gay romances and now it's possible to have FemShep trailer?




IN YOUR FACE "DUMBED DOWN" CROWD!

I don't see what a game's trailers have to do with whether or not it's been dumbed down. Some crappy games have had trailers that made them appear awesome, and the other way around; it's all about appearances.

Also not sure what to make of the smugness of some of the female-Shepard "supporters". It's not like that will affect the game, or as if there was a war going on about which Shepard-sex was the best. Or so I thought.

Noone's going to war if MaleShep or FemShep is better.

[javierabegazo]

I think it's important to stress that this thread isn't about which sex Shepard is is best, but rather that the Director of Marketing is reaching out to the fanbase, and I'm sure there are some interesting questions we can come up with

[Alpha-Centuri]

wepeel_ wrote...


Also not sure what to make of the smugness of some of the female-Shepard "supporters". It's not like that will affect the game, or as if there was a war going on about which Shepard-sex was the best. Or so I thought.

I agree. They are carbon copies of each other in all attributes.  she is equally as strong, doesn't show any more emotion, isn't any more or less persuasive, has the same dialogue, etc. I don't get it either.  

I think its internet nature to pick a side and demonize the other, even when the difference is negligible.

As I alluded to before, marketing is simply promotion. Its true that you can make a female Shepard, so it makes sense that they would market it.

[NICKjnp]

Eh...I don't care either way about a Femshep  trailer. I don't really play Femshep. To be fair it would be nice to see a trailer with both genders. As for a CGI trailer...keep Sheploo. He is the face of the game.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 24 mai 2011 - 06:26 .

[Darth Death]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

wepeel_ wrote...


Also not sure what to make of the smugness of some of the female-Shepard "supporters". It's not like that will affect the game, or as if there was a war going on about which Shepard-sex was the best. Or so I thought.

I agree. They are carbon copies of each other in all attributes.  she is equally as strong, doesn't show any more emotion, isn't any more or less persuasive, has the same dialogue, etc. I don't get it either.  

I think its internet nature to pick a side and demonize the other, even when the difference is negligible.

As I alluded to before, marketing is simply promotion. Its true that you can make a female Shepard, so it makes sense that they would market it.

I agree as well. I honestly don't understand all this hype is about & why it even matters.

[ScepticMatt]

I'm not a fan of past Bioware marketing, to put it mildly.
That said, I think a FemShep trailer is a good idea

Matt

Modifié par ScepticMatt, 24 mai 2011 - 07:00 .

[Siansonea]

Well the purpose of trailers is to create awareness, especially among potential new customers. The trailer should reflect key attributes of the game in order to pique the interest of people who aren't familiar with the game. Pretty much any trailer is going to build excitement and buzz among customers who have purchased the previous two games. I think an ideal trailer would feature both male and female Shepard, or have two trailers that are identical except for Shepard's gender.

[Phaedon]

Yeah, CGI trailer with FemShep is just overkill, imo. These things are very expensive, and they should probably just focus on Sheploo (who fortunately, or unfortunately, is the iconic Shepard) on that one.

[Scandigeek]

Just tweeted him back, yes I would love to see a Femshep promo with Jennifer Hale.

[Severyx]

I don't use twitter, so I'll just give my two cents here.

I say no to FemShep in any trailers. It will, as pointed out, cause unnecessary confusion amongst the playerbase. The Shepard used in every trailer, cover and marketing artwork has been Sheploo, and to change it would be a jarring direction for the franchise. You simply cannot expect that the millions of players out there waiting for ME3 will have put as much thought into this as the very small percentage of people here on the forums have.

Consistency will help sell the game. Let's stick with male Shepard.

I understand this is for ONE promo/trailer. My opinion on the matter still stands.

Question for the Marketing guy! When can we see a Mass Effect LEGO series? ;D

Modifié par Severyx, 25 mai 2011 - 02:31 .

[Scandigeek]

Why would it cause confusion? This game lets you customize your own Shepard right? If anything using the same guy over and over again would contradict that. I didn't even know you could play a female Shepard in this series tell someone who played the game told me you could.

[habitat 67]

Akari Tenshi wrote...

I'd love to see a trailer with femshep in it. Lets hope it happens.

Especially now that Gears of War 3 is showing off their new lady character big time.

[Severyx]

Scandigeek wrote...

Why would it cause confusion? This game lets you customize your own Shepard right? If anything using the same guy over and over again would contradict that. I didn't even know you could play a female Shepard in this series tell someone who played the game told me you could.

Sheploo is the iconic face for the Mass Effect game series. Replacing that would be like replacing O'Neil from the Stargate SG-1 show mid-series with a female actress that does the same things and says the same lines. That's something in marketing you just don't do. It has nothing to do with male vs female.

[Scandigeek]

Severyx wrote...

Sheploo is the iconic face for the Mass Effect game series. Replacing that would be like replacing O'Neil from the Stargate SG-1 show mid-series with a female actress that does the same things and says the same lines. That's something in marketing you just don't do. It has nothing to do with male vs female.

I wasn't aware there was an iconic face, if there is, then a good number of players seem to ignore it, which means it is no longer Iconic.  

Besides SG-1 is a show, Mass Effect is a game.  You don't have imput over character decisions or story progression in a show, but you do in a game, or at least you get the allusion of choice in a Bioware game. 

I don't see the harm in having one or two promos with a female shep in them.  

Modifié par Scandigeek, 25 mai 2011 - 03:04 .

[aimlessgun]

Severyx wrote...

Scandigeek wrote...

Why would it cause confusion? This game lets you customize your own Shepard right? If anything using the same guy over and over again would contradict that. I didn't even know you could play a female Shepard in this series tell someone who played the game told me you could.

Sheploo is the iconic face for the Mass Effect game series. Replacing that would be like replacing O'Neil from the Stargate SG-1 show mid-series with a female actress that does the same things and says the same lines. That's something in marketing you just don't do. It has nothing to do with male vs female.

I think the iconic, banner thing about Mass Effect is CHOICE. Using multiple character images sells their core premise. I think the use of Sheploo exclusively is a disservice to that, and inferior to using femshep. 

[Gatt9]

What's in the Collector's Edition?

That's about the only thing I can think of, honestly, Marketing has too many buzz words and too little real info for my tastes.

He'd have to start talking about the game without using buzzwords for me to listen much. I'd be the first in line if he'd talk about how past choices potentially affect ME3, or the new RPG aspects that are supposed to be present, or how weapon modding works.