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[naledgeborn]

Kind of derailing your thread here but I don't think Liara as we know her should've been a squadmate at all. Looking at the bigger picture here in my opinion the writers got sloppy when writing Therum for ME1. They should have somehow merged Feros and Therum and Shiala and Liara together from a story standpoint. It's like they wrote the Shiala character to throw her away. Just my $ 0.02

[Nezzer]

Well, Feron is there to take her role when she's out xD

[GuardianAngel470]

Nozybidaj wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

So being a reclusive prothean archeologist somehow qualifies one to lead a secret galactic underbelly information trading organization? The whole idea of making Liara the SB in the first place was rather, at best, a stretch and in practice retarded.

I'm fine if they just forget the whole thing.

No, being a reclusive prothean archealogist that figured out, from scattered pieces of data across dozens of dig sites over 50 years, that the Protheans were killed by an unnamed force and that the cycle has repeated hundreds of times does.

It isn't the occupation; its the accomplishment. It isn't the fact that she knows stuff about the protheans; its how she pieced together her knowledge to form a complex, revolutionary, and correct theory.

So your average college professor is well suited to being the Kingpin?  I suppose that is one way to view things.  I'd certainly disagree, but there ya have it.......

Not quite what I mean. Average college professors don't make huge, paradigm shifting discoveries worthy of the Nobel Prize. Heck, many Nobel Prize winners wouldn't even fit into that category as many of those discoveries were made on accident when attempting to prove something else.

What Liara accomplished is more similar what Einstein did in his theory of relativity. Piecing together seemingly unrelated facts and forming a hypothesis. Scientifically, Einstein got a bit farther and his hypothesis was eventually turned into a theory but you can't really blame Liara for that.

Also, unlike an average college professor, Liara was out in the field contending with pirates and other sorts of nefarious characters. She's shown at least a capacity for violence and an ability to cope with death and killing, two things an average college professor wouldn't.

Basically she's a Nobel Prize-winning Corporal.

[GenericPlayer2]

I agree entirely with the OP. But it seems clear that everyone in this thread has a different idea of what kind of person Liara is and what she should be up to. As with everything else, the decision should be the player's. But the way the game is structured, Bioware wants you to have a minimum number of squaddies. Its not like DA where you can go on quests by yourself. So in ME3 its clear for one reason or another they want you to have a minimum of 3 squaddies. They accomplish this by forcing VS, Liara and new-guy Vega on you. It would be nice to be able to tell any one of those 3 leave once you have more people on the team.

Back to the issue of Liara - from my perspective in ME2 she seemed completely at home on the SB base and the thought of fighting the Reaper threat did not seem motivation enough for her to drop everything and join Shep. I don't see how her general attitude of "I can be of greater service here than on the Normandy" would change in ME3.

I think having Liara as a permanent squad mate in ME3 would have made more sense if she did not become the new Shadow Broker. If LotSB had ended with her saying she would be busy archiving all the data and then crashing the ship after the events of ME2, then it would make sense. But the way they wrote it she just seemed to be too much 'at home' on the SB ship.

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 28 mai 2011 - 12:35 .

[Tamahome560]

No matter how we treat Liara she is either a very good friend or our lover. Shepard is risking his life and she may never get a chance to see/be with him again if she doesn't join the team. While yes she would still provide him intel and stuff (This is essentially what she says in the LotSB) she will change her mind and want to take a more active role in helping Shepard given the circumstances (The invasion and Shep barely escaping from the Earth) . At least that is how I see it.

[KendallX23]

since i rarely if ever used Liara in ME1 i wouldn't really want her a squadmate in ME3 as she will probably be on the ship most of the time....but a real reason well
I don't see Liara as a fighter...sure she is a powerful biotic..she is an asari after all...but she was a prthean archeologist who turned information broker and then SB...she is much more useful on intel then on a mission near Shepard unless it involves studying something prothean.
That beeing said..i see no reason why she couldn't have transfered information on the Normandy from the SB database and have Feron stay at the base for further needs...and still be on the Normandy close to the fight

[amcnow]

I agree with OP. Given the current context of this progressing story, Liara being a full time squadmate would make little sense. With that said, it is possible something drastic will happen to change this.

[Bluko]

Liara isn't the Shadowbroker anymore.  Seems rather obvious no? I don't think Shepard would be too happy with T.I.M. if they learned they screwed over one of their old squadmates to become the new Shadowbroker. Which I'm pretty sure why is why Cerberus provided the intel in the first place. Replace existing Shadowbroker with someone you know, let Shepard and crew do the dirty work, and then a few months later take over for yourself.

And if Liara is on the run from Cerberus and no longer the Shadowbroker she might as well team-up with Shepard.

[TomY90]

Bluko wrote...

Liara isn't the Shadowbroker anymore.  Seems rather obvious no? I don't think Shepard would be too happy with T.I.M. if they learned they screwed over one of their old squadmates to become the new Shadowbroker. Which I'm pretty sure why is why Cerberus provided the intel in the first place. Replace existing Shadowbroker with someone you know, let Shepard and crew do the dirty work, and then a few months later take over for yourself.

And if Liara is on the run from Cerberus and no longer the Shadowbroker she might as well team-up with Shepard.

true but I considering how many connections the shadowbroker has I doubt cerberus could manage to pull such a much in one go.

I think it might be a potential full squad member which I think it depends on if she is your LI.

I hope actually she can stay as being the shadow broker I do not like the idea of her randomly becoming a squad member considering she is now got enough contacts to get stuff done by herself.

I can imagine it will be a choice system on who you have on the normandy and who you do not so that it enables people to make more choices on who they have or not (except you will have some members you have no choice with)