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[DDK]

I have this weird obsession that requires me to play through ME1 to import to ME2, despite having Gibbed and buying Genesis. You have my permission to call me names; I deserve it.

I have so far managed to reconcile in my head playing a soldier in ME1 with a shotgun and charging enemy lines with immunity spam and carnage, along with a liberal dose of contrivance to justify eezo exposure during ME2's introduction, and biotics training with his LI (Liara), in order to import him as a vanguard in ME2.

But now I want to redo my ME2 infiltrator in an ME1 playthrough. And, well, whilst infiltrator is definitely a powerful and fun option in ME1, the playstyle really doesn't suit sniping, at least not IMO.

Or does it? Maybe I'm missing something. So I'm asking you all your opinions on what makes a good sniper in ME1 so that I can import it to ME2 and enjoy the widow (maker). 

[termokanden]

You're missing something for sure. Infiltrators and Soldiers in ME1 can actually be played in pretty much the same way. Both have Immunity, with Soldiers of course having more durability (but probably more than you'd ever need, considering how insanely overpowered Immunity is). Both should go for Commando for sniping, so they'll both have the Assassinate upgrade and the extra weapon damage.

Differences:

- Infiltrators get some heat reduction.
- Soldiers get Adrenaline Rush (meaning they can Assassinate more often) and 9% extra weapon damage.

Might seem like soldiers are better. But then Infiltrators get loads of tech powers that are not only useful but also let you bring any two squadmates and still open locks. In my opinion, both classes are just about equally powerful, but Infiltrators are more fun.

Modifié par termokanden, 24 mai 2011 - 01:32 .

[The Grey Ranger]

Termokanden is correct. The main difference is that soldiers will have a few more hit points and heavy armor, while the infiltrator will have better shields and some cool tech powers. It pretty much amounts to being able to bounce 17 rockets off of your chest rather than 20.

I personally find soldier kind of boring in ME1.  You pretty much get to where, what you do is pop immunity and shoot.  You use your talents to use assassinate or carnage.  I prefer infiltrator, since you can vary your game play and squad more.

ME2 on the other hand, I find both to be fun as snipers.  I think it's because the combat is more compelling, so there's not so much need to play around with my playstyle.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 24 mai 2011 - 01:50 .

[Golden Owl]

I have always played the Infiltrator sniper...but at the moment am in fact running a soldier through ME1...I seem to have some trouble with the soldier, I in fact find the Infiltrator easier myself and yes, took the commando option with both...sniping is always the bulk of my game play....So personally prefer the Infiltrator from my experiences.

[Senior Cinco]

Malisin wrote...

I have this weird obsession that requires me to play through ME1 to import to ME2, despite having Gibbed and buying Genesis. You have my permission to call me names; I deserve it.

I have so far managed to reconcile in my head playing a soldier in ME1 with a shotgun and charging enemy lines with immunity spam and carnage, along with a liberal dose of contrivance to justify eezo exposure during ME2's introduction, and biotics training with his LI (Liara), in order to import him as a vanguard in ME2.

But now I want to redo my ME2 infiltrator in an ME1 playthrough. And, well, whilst infiltrator is definitely a powerful and fun option in ME1, the playstyle really doesn't suit sniping, at least not IMO.

Or does it? Maybe I'm missing something. So I'm asking you all your opinions on what makes a good sniper in ME1 so that I can import it to ME2 and enjoy the widow (maker). 

Don't feel bad. You're not alone. I can't play ME2 without an Import, and I just got Genesis as well. I also just started a new (5th) playthrough. I always gst Sniper Training with any build. In ME1 you can still do a lot of damage with it maxed out, and the right upgrades. I also found the Sol class and the Inft class to be boring. My last was Vangard. When imported to ME2, became the most fun thus far. My current is an Adept, strong biotics up close and has proven to be deadly at long range with Sniper. Filling the mid range with pistol.

I guess I'm saying, ANY build can make a good Sniper in ME1. It just comes down to playstyle. The Sniper in ME2 can be a little diff, in that you don't get the Slow-Mo. But I didn't use it that much anyway, playing as an Inf.

[Zilod]

Sniping is pretty viable for an infi (my main infiltrator was actually a sniper build), you dont get headshots but at least there are infinite ammos
if you like the 1 shot "sniper feel" i only suggest to not to play on the hardest difficulties or dmg mitigation will prevent that... at normal and vet you can even turin your rifle in a minicannon with explosive round and highest dmg mods, not very efficent but pretty fun ^^

[Senior Cinco]

Zilod wrote...
if you like the 1 shot "sniper feel" i only suggest to not to play on the hardest difficulties or dmg mitigation will prevent that... at normal and vet you can even turin your rifle in a minicannon with explosive round and highest dmg mods, not very efficent but pretty fun ^^

My Adept can take out smaller enemies with one shot on insanity. And yes it is fun to use explosive RDs. Aim at the feet and they are launched 100yds in the air. You need to make sure to save a couple of VII Rail Ext.

[jamesp81]

termokanden wrote...

You're missing something for sure. Infiltrators and Soldiers in ME1 can actually be played in pretty much the same way. Both have Immunity, with Soldiers of course having more durability (but probably more than you'd ever need, considering how insanely overpowered Immunity is). Both should go for Commando for sniping, so they'll both have the Assassinate upgrade and the extra weapon damage.

Differences:

- Infiltrators get some heat reduction.
- Soldiers get Adrenaline Rush (meaning they can Assassinate more often) and 9% extra weapon damage.

Might seem like soldiers are better. But then Infiltrators get loads of tech powers that are not only useful but also let you bring any two squadmates and still open locks. In my opinion, both classes are just about equally powerful, but Infiltrators are more fun.

Great thing about ME1 infiltrators is that you can develop your own electronics and decryption powers, that way you're not bound to squad mates that have those abilities (Kaiden, Garrus, Tali).  It means you can roll with a Wrex/Liara or Ashley/Wrex squad if you want, which I frequently do.  I'm especially fond of Ashley and Wrex.

Modifié par jamesp81, 24 mai 2011 - 08:37 .

[AtlasMickey]

I haven't played ME2 yet, just starting my Insanity playthrough in ME1, and I must say the Engineer class plus sniper rifle is where it's at. Lots of creative things you can do.

Consider AI Hacking a front line trooper and then ordering your two teammates to advance forward along with him, as he turns around guns blazing, while you cover them with your sniper rifle.

Also, those pesky Krogans who want to ruin your sniping fun and just charge after you? Neural Shock collapses them instantly, giving you a couple of good shots on the enemies behind him.

Because Engineers can only have light armor, you want to be able to dash out of battle at a moment's notice, but still take advantage of the tenuously weakened state of the enemies you just abandoned. Before their shields recharge, get a good shot in while they're still out from cover.

My Engineer Sniper has the pistol out most of the time. It's a better weapon in an ambush. However, the pistol is not upgraded at all, preferring instead to upgrade Sabotage, Overload, and AI Hacking, and the periphery skills that upgrade those. First level Assassination is enough for the first half of the game.

[FrostyThundertrod]

Odd thing is since I beet ME1 has a infutrator, I can get sniper riffel skill on any charater I make the adpit sniper is just wird in a good way

[termokanden]

It's not weird. Once you get the weapon achievement (enough kills) with any weapon except the pistol, you can use that weapon as a bonus skill for new characters.

[tangofish]

The last time I played through ME1 I had an infiltrator with hacking as her bonus talent. Rolling with Wrex and Ashley meant it was all immunity, all the time!

Infiltrators Make Merc Units Noisily Explode.

[Dave666]

termokanden wrote...

It's not weird. Once you get the weapon achievement (enough kills) with any weapon except the pistol, you can use that weapon as a bonus skill for new characters.

Agreed.  Its my favourite build in ME:1.  I've tried them all over the years but I always come back to the Sniper Adept.  I figure that I already have Pistols for mid range so AR's are a lil redundant and Shotty's don't really need the accuracy boost given the short range so all I miss out on is Carnage, but I can replicate that if i want to by using Explosive Rounds.  Because of the Power Wheel Bug I never use a bonus ability so why not choose Sniper Rifles for extreme range?

Modifié par Dave666, 28 mai 2011 - 08:30 .