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CDProjekt has stated that Bioware games have been an inspiration and you can see they lifted a lot of Bioware elements and put them into their witcher games...

So now that they have pushed the envelope a little bit with TW2 what elements do guys you think Bioware can take from the Witcher2 and add into their own games??


For instance I would love to see 

• The day/night cycles from TW2
• The life cycles of the NPCs (who always seem to be doing something)
• The more mature language
• The gfx (obviously) 

What would you like to see?

[John Epler]

Cut it out with the personal attacks and ad hominems, or I will start handing out bans.

Some of you really ought to know better.

[John Epler]

Well, I just got back from lunch.

Going back through and handing out bans and warnings as appropriate. Some of you (on both sides of the fence) need to learn to deal with each other like adults and cut out the hostile rhetoric and pointless insults.

Bring it back on-topic now, or it's getting locked.

[John Epler]

Marionetten wrote...

The moderators here aren't exactly known for banning or warning those who defend them regardless of how condescending, obnoxious or insulting they are. So, I'm sure you'll be perfectly fine. Keep on trucking because I for one would miss your antics something fierce.

Given that you have exactly zero insight into who gets warned and banned, as we try to keep it between the person receiving disciplinary action and the person handing out the action, I'd say you're looking for a bias that doesn't exist. I ban people who need a time out because they can't remain civil, or who have violated the ToS time and time again.

And since I'm not omniscient (nor is this my job - it's a volunteer function I perform on top of my other duties), I rely mostly on users PM'ing me to deal with concerns as they arise. If I don't hear about it, I can't deal with it. And given that I received exactly zero PMs about this particular thread, well, it's no surprise that it went on as long as it did in the fashion that it did. But by all means, imagine it's because we consciously refuse to discipline people who are pro DA2. I'm certain there are a few folks who would vociferously disagree with you.

[John Epler]

Marionetten wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

Given that you have exactly zero insight into who gets warned and banned, as we try to keep it between the person receiving disciplinary action and the person handing out the action, I'd say you're looking for a bias that doesn't exist. I ban people who need a time out because they can't remain civil, or who have violated the ToS time and time again.

And since I'm not omniscient (nor is this my job - it's a volunteer function I perform on top of my other duties), I rely mostly on users PM'ing me to deal with concerns as they arise. If I don't hear about it, I can't deal with it. And given that I received exactly zero PMs about this particular thread, well, it's no surprise that it went on as long as it did in the fashion that it did. But by all means, imagine it's because we consciously refuse to discipline people who are pro DA2. I'm certain there are a few folks who would vociferously disagree with you.

Are you trying to tell me that some of the most ardent defenders here weren't more deserving of a ban than say v_ware? I've definitely seen a lot of selective moderation and if I were a betting man I'd place good money on Mercer getting the banhammar and Rock slipping away with a warning despite both of them essentially saying the same thing.

I realize that you have limits as a moderator but the trolling does go both ways and I've seen a lot of productive discussions be shut down by the same people time and time again followed by a lock.

Again, I don't discuss the particulars of who gets banned and who doesn't with anyone other than the person being banned. It's no one's business but theirs and ours, and we try to keep it that way.

And I'm well aware that the trolling goes both ways. I've waded into numerous threads and given warnings to DA2 defenders that have crossed the line. I've banned some, warned others. Just like I've done with folks on the other side of the fence. If you honestly feel that there's a bias on these forums, well, I have to strongly disagree with you. Obviously, I enjoy reading posts supporting DA2 more than posts attacking it. That's human nature - it's a project I invested a lot of time and effort into. But I don't let that affect my moderation.

If you violate the ToS, if you're being overly aggressive or hostile or if you're impeding proper and constructive discussion, then yes, you're someone who's likely to be banned or warned. Doesn't matter what side you're arguing. If anything, I've heard arguments that we're -too- lenient about those attacking DA2 in order to avoid the appearance of favouritism. I think we're fairly even-handed, but obviously some people will disagree. Still, I don't think there's any bias one way or the other.

[John Epler]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Lets see what can they learn from one such as Geralt:

A) Make people play a set defined character
Give him a horrible VO the sounds a 13 year old boy pretending to be tough
C) De-value women into simple disposable pleasures/collectible cards.
D) Drrrrrraaaaaaaaaagggggggg your damn plot out so badly that people would rather watch the Director's cut of Alexander a dozen times over then try and slog through your game.

You see!
The Witcher offers such good design choices that Bioware should follow!

Yeah. Let's avoid this sort of thing - it's not really going to lead to any constructive discussion.

And let's try to bring this back on topic.

[John Epler]

I saw absolutely no need for a hostile response to Zjarcal's comment.

Telling someone, essentially, 'the only reason you didn't like this game is because you weren't mature enough for it' is silly. It was silly when people were doing it to those who disliked DA2, and it's silly now.

Perhaps cut it out with the knee-jerk responses?