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[Merced652]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

[neppakyo]

Persephone wrote...


- Forcing a romance on me....if I chose Shani, I do not want Triss in my bed. Esp. not a Triss who looks and acts like a lovestruck teenager.

Read the books (well, I could only get the last wish and blood of elves) Triss is a main character. 

But its gunna be interesting when we finally meet Yennifer.

[Marionetten]

I think what BioWare needs to take a look at above all else is the love and care CD Projekt RED put into The Witcher 2. Like it or hate it, it's obvious enough that they spent a lot of time and effort on it and you can tell that they loved every single second of it. This is what a labor of love feels like and I think BioWare needs to try and reignite their passion. Dragon Age II felt as if it was designed by a committee. This is not the way to go.

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

They should most certainly return to gameplay more similar to Baldur's Gate. While I didn't mind The Witcher 2's action based gameplay as much Dragon Age II's poor emulation of it I don't want the Dragon Age franchise to turn into yet another action RPG franchise. If anything, I'd like for BioWare to get even more strategical with it. More thinking like a general and less fighting like a spartan, please.

Modifié par Marionetten, 26 mai 2011 - 05:21 .

[Persephone]

neppakyo wrote...

Persephone wrote...


- Forcing a romance on me....if I chose Shani, I do not want Triss in my bed. Esp. not a Triss who looks and acts like a lovestruck teenager.

Read the books (well, I could only get the last wish and blood of elves) Triss is a main character. 

But its gunna be interesting when we finally meet Yennifer.

If they want to stick to the books, fine. But do not portray a main character in two entirely different ways. It makes no sense. Either book canon or game canon. Do not mix the two.

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

Was that supposed to be witty?

Ah, no, it was just condescending and rude, as usual.<_<

[neppakyo]

Persephone wrote...

If they want to stick to the books, fine. But do not portray a main character in two entirely different ways. It makes no sense. Either book canon or game canon. Do not mix the two.

Mhm. Wonder if they need the author's permission to change things.

[mesmerizedish]

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

[Marionetten]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

Now you're just fanboying.

[hoorayforicecream]

Marionetten wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

Now you're just fanboying.

No, TW2's combat sucks. At least, it does for the first few hours of the game.

[Persephone]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

I wouldn't go quite THAT far. They both have their pros & cons. The finishers in TW2 were astonishingly brilliant. (Cutscenes!) DAII's combat was more responsive however. TW2's combat had shuffling (Which I do not like), DAII has little to no shuffling, but not enough variety when it comes to the different enemies. Just IMO, of course.

[Persephone]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

Now you're just fanboying.

No, TW2's combat sucks. At least, it does for the first few hours of the game.

Now THAT is true. :lol:

[Marionetten]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

No, TW2's combat sucks. At least, it does for the first few hours of the game.

Because it's hard and comes with a bit of a learning curve? By the same token Demon's Souls combat sucks. By the same token Ninja Gaiden's combat sucks. And don't use Penny Arcade to get your half-baked point across when they don't even agree with it.  Not once does Tycho suggest that the combat is bad in his piece as much as frustrating and complex.

Modifié par Marionetten, 26 mai 2011 - 05:31 .

[Merced652]

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

Was that supposed to be witty?

Ah, no, it was just condescending and rude, as usual.<_<

Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities but its rather odd, oh and condescending to me for someone to suggest TW2s combat was at all mindless especially without also levying the same criticism at DA2. I've read TW2 on easy truly is mindless hack & slash, great. If you wanted combat to not be mindless then why are you playing on easy? Its not particularly boring or repetative, so far as i can tell, like DA2s waves were. Yet its mindless because she, he, it, played on easy. Whatever. I played on normal and died my fair share. Know how many times i died in DA2 on normal? Once and it was in some random ass encounter, not even to a boss. 

Modifié par Merced652, 26 mai 2011 - 05:33 .

[Persephone]

neppakyo wrote...

Persephone wrote...

If they want to stick to the books, fine. But do not portray a main character in two entirely different ways. It makes no sense. Either book canon or game canon. Do not mix the two.

Mhm. Wonder if they need the author's permission to change things.

They probably do. But all TW1 & TW2 Triss had in common were: Name, magic and the red hair. Way too jarring. (Reminds me of the "This isn't Awakening Anders!" debate. Anders at least had possession on his side to explain the changes. Triss got nothing)

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

Was that supposed to be witty?

Ah, no, it was just condescending and rude, as usual.<_<

Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities but its rather odd, oh and condescending to me for someone to suggest TW2s combat was at all mindless especially without also levying the same criticism at DA2. I've read TW2 on easy truly is mindless hack & slash, great. If you wanted combat to not be mindless then why are you playing on easy? Its not particularly boring or repetative, so far as i can tell, like DA2s waves were. Yet its mindless because she, he, it, played on easy. Whatever. I played on normal and died my fare share. Know how many times i died in DA2 on normal? Once and it was in some random ass encounter, not even to a boss. 

I like the TW2 combat system myself. Is it flawed? Yup. Did I die a lot? Yup. But it sure is addictive & fun. And now you're pulling the "Just play it on hard!" card? How very....poignant.

[mesmerizedish]

Persephone wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

I wouldn't go quite THAT far. They both have their pros & cons. The finishers in TW2 were astonishingly brilliant. (Cutscenes!) DAII's combat was more responsive however. TW2's combat had shuffling (Which I do not like), DAII has little to no shuffling, but not enough variety when it comes to the different enemies. Just IMO, of course.

I accept that you enjoyed the finishers, but I felt the detracted from the experience for me.

Enemy variety is encounter design, not combat mechanics. Both games are boring and repetative when it comes to the fights. But TW2 is also uninspiring in terms of the actual combat, whereas DAII's MMO-inspired math-based mechanics are insanely fun.

[Merced652]

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

Was that supposed to be witty?

Ah, no, it was just condescending and rude, as usual.<_<

Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities but its rather odd, oh and condescending to me for someone to suggest TW2s combat was at all mindless especially without also levying the same criticism at DA2. I've read TW2 on easy truly is mindless hack & slash, great. If you wanted combat to not be mindless then why are you playing on easy? Its not particularly boring or repetative, so far as i can tell, like DA2s waves were. Yet its mindless because she, he, it, played on easy. Whatever. I played on normal and died my fare share. Know how many times i died in DA2 on normal? Once and it was in some random ass encounter, not even to a boss. 

I like the TW2 combat system myself. Is it flawed? Yup. Did I die a lot? Yup. But it sure is addictive & fun. And now you're pulling the "Just play it on hard!" card? How very....poignant.

You seem to have missed the part where i said it wasn't particularly boring or repetitive. Which is the criticism your boy Mike Liadlaw was responding to when he said "play it on hard." Sorry if you missed that during your squeeing. 

[Merced652]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Persephone wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

I wouldn't go quite THAT far. They both have their pros & cons. The finishers in TW2 were astonishingly brilliant. (Cutscenes!) DAII's combat was more responsive however. TW2's combat had shuffling (Which I do not like), DAII has little to no shuffling, but not enough variety when it comes to the different enemies. Just IMO, of course.

I accept that you enjoyed the finishers, but I felt the detracted from the experience for me.

Enemy variety is encounter design, not combat mechanics. Both games are boring and repetative when it comes to the fights. But TW2 is also uninspiring in terms of the actual combat, whereas DAII's MMO-inspired math-based mechanics are insanely fun.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Probably should've known you were out to blatantly troll with your first post on this particular subject.

Modifié par Merced652, 26 mai 2011 - 05:40 .

[Zjarcal]

Alistairlover94 wrote...
No offense, but I think you're kind of a derp.

No offense, yet you say something offensive. Priceless.

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Can I add "horrendous gameplay" to Persephone's "do not want" list? Obscene controls and mindless hack-and-slash combat is ew.

That "do want" list about sums it up, though.

Mindless?

Oh you were talking about DA2. 

Was that supposed to be witty?

Ah, no, it was just condescending and rude, as usual.<_<

Sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities but its rather odd, oh and condescending to me for someone to suggest TW2s combat was at all mindless especially without also levying the same criticism at DA2. I've read TW2 on easy truly is mindless hack & slash, great. If you wanted combat to not be mindless then why are you playing on easy? Its not particularly boring or repetative, so far as i can tell, like DA2s waves were. Yet its mindless because she, he, it, played on easy. Whatever. I played on normal and died my fare share. Know how many times i died in DA2 on normal? Once and it was in some random ass encounter, not even to a boss. 

I like the TW2 combat system myself. Is it flawed? Yup. Did I die a lot? Yup. But it sure is addictive & fun. And now you're pulling the "Just play it on hard!" card? How very....poignant.

You seem to have missed the part where i said it wasn't particularly boring or repetitive. Which is the criticism your boy Mike Liadlaw was responding to when he said "play it on hard." Sorry if you missed that during your squeeing. 

Splitting hairs? The criticism was mindless hack 'n slash. Who the hell is Mike Liadlaw? And since when do I own him?

Yeesh, aren't you done with your vitriol spewing yet? It's been.......months.<_<

[Marionetten]

Merced652 wrote...

Probably should've known you were out to blatantly troll with your first post on this particular subject.

You know, I actually don't think that's trolling. That's the scary part.

[John Epler]

Cut it out with the personal attacks and ad hominems, or I will start handing out bans.

Some of you really ought to know better.

[Persephone]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I most certainly was not. People who think DAII is mindless need to visit the strategy forum.

DAII's combat is awesome. TW2's combat sucks.

Now you're just fanboying.

No, TW2's combat sucks. At least, it does for the first few hours of the game.

*snip*

Let me get this straight...TW2's combat sucks because you personally don't like video-games holding your hand? By that logic, DMC3, Demon's Souls, and Persona 3 all suck. No offense, but I think you're kind of a derp.

There are people who do not equate well done tutorials with hand holding...... Shocking, I know.

And no offense, but since when is name calling NOT offensive? When it's in favor of TW2 and adding to the DAII bash fest?