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[Persephone]

Ringo12 wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Choices are great to have, but are not imperative for a good game.

With out choices then we wouldn't be playing an rpg.

I've said this before but......

The "Might & Magic" series aren't RPGs then? Good one.

[AllThatJazz]

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

Depends, though. If you take Anders and Bethany/Carver they don't die. Also, if they join the Circle/Templars, they are available for the final fight (don't know about the other scenario, haven't played it). I thought it was one of the better examples of c&c personally, given that the outcome was at least slightly different. I just wish there'd been more of it. And I agree that there was much wasted potential throughout the game.

I didn't like Anders' personality either, I miss the lighthearted snarkiness of Awakening Anders. But I did find him compelling. I thought his writer did a decent job even if the end result took him in a different direction than I would have liked. I certainly didn't have an issue with the sexuality of any of the characters, the sex stuff was easy enough to avoid if you wanted to and for me it didn't impact the 'uniqueness' of the companions one way or the other . Probably not the time and place for that discussion anyway.  

[Persephone]

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

1) Take Anders with you & they won't die.

2) Wow, Homophobia AND lies. The LIs are bisexual not "whiny, crying homos". Varric cannot be romanced & hints at being straight. (He'll flirt with Lady Hawke exclusively) Sebastian is straight.

3) Ever read the short story detailing his fate after Awakening? But of course, it all boils down to homophobia again.

4) Yeah. my Hawke sure had loads of sex with Aveline, Sebastian, the Viscount, Meredith....etc. Actually the TW2 "romances" fit the "just want to have sex" mantra MUCH better.

Have you even PLAYED DAII at all? Based on the above, you never made it past the first 20 minutes of Act I.

Modifié par Persephone, 10 juin 2011 - 10:05 .

[Icinix]

*looks through thread*

Yeah, Attention to Detail and Development time. Just because you CAN make a game in X amount of time, doesn't necessarily mean you should.

*runs from thread*

[Dariuszp]

Persephone wrote...

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

1) Take Anders with you & they won't die.

2) Wow, Homophobia AND lies. The LIs are bisexual not "whiny, crying homos". Varric cannot be romanced & hints at being straight. (He'll flirt with Lady Hawke exclusively) Sebastian is straight.

3) Ever read the short story detailing his fate after Awakening? But of course, it all boils down to homophobia again.

4) Yeah. my Hawke sure had loads of sex with Aveline, Sebastian, the Viscount, Meredith....etc. Actually the TW2 "romances" fit the "just want to have sex" mantra MUCH better.

Have you even PLAYED DAII at all? Based on the above, you never made it past the first 20 minutes of Act I.

Yeah right Homophobia They turn almost every character in this game into ******. I just find that strange. If I find that strange then I'm homophob. So you have heterophobia ? Be tolerant a little I dont have problem with that but it's still strange. Every character should have their own personality. Not everyone want sex with Geralt in TW.
And what i should do so noone call me a homofob ? Ask BW to make everyone BI or gay in this game ? :| So everyone are the same ? :| Are you serious or what ? Go to gay parade ? Dont be funny. I'm straight. I dont expect from everyone to be as I'm but still I dont expect that everyone will be ******. It's only natural.

Did you actualy play Awakening ? Because I find Anders much diferent. Right now he just cry and whine all the time. And he want my character ass. I see a lot of differences here.

TW2 romances were casual. You cannot even compare it. Did you even read the book ?? And they still were made with more taste (Geralt and Triss best example) but more nudity (what somple people dont need to like).

Yes I played DA II. Did you check this area name ? "REGISTERED GAME OWNER". I found that question little stupid but hey - everyone make mistakes right ?

Modifié par Dariuszp, 10 juin 2011 - 10:28 .

[AllThatJazz]

Persephone wrote...

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

1) Take Anders with you & they won't die.

2) Wow, Homophobia AND lies. The LIs are bisexual not "whiny, crying homos". Varric cannot be romanced & hints at being straight. (He'll flirt with Lady Hawke exclusively) Sebastian is straight.

3) Ever read the short story detailing his fate after Awakening? But of course, it all boils down to homophobia again.

4) Yeah. my Hawke sure had loads of sex with Aveline, Sebastian, the Viscount, Meredith....etc. Actually the TW2 "romances" fit the "just want to have sex" mantra MUCH better.

Have you even PLAYED DAII at all? Based on the above, you never made it past the first 20 minutes of Act I.

OK, what Persephone wrote > what I wrote. You rock. 

[What?]

First, I just want to announce I am not a CDProjekt boot-licker and Witcher fangirl, nor am I an extreme Bioware fangirl. I'm approaching this thread objectively, from an aloof third-party stance.

Firstly, a tighter narrative. That's what DA could take away from TW2. DA2 just felt all-over. I still enjoyed it despite its misgivings, but the sketchy narrative had me a little irritated at times. All the events seemed hardly related to one another, tied by a hair-line string. Nothing felt solid.

Secondly, more realistic characters. Don't get me wrong; for the most part, I loved the DA2 cast. But some of the characters felt sorely out-of-place in Dragon Age's gritty world. Avaline and Varric being the exceptions. Avaline was written well, and never felt misplaced to me. She was just some woman with a strong sense of justice. Varric was just a typical hustler, plying a living in the low-reaches (with pizazz and a rapid-fire crossbow). However, on the other hand, we have characters like Merrill and Fenris. I loved Merrill, but her gaudy naivety made her more palatable for anime than 'dark fantasy'. And then there's Fenris, fantasy's answer to Edward Cullen. All a-glitter, carrying a boulder on his shoulder. Lamely put, less hyperbolic characters would be nice.

And thirdly, more ambiguity. I'd like to see more moral gray-space like in The Witcher, rather than your good/bad/neutral options that have pervaded Bioware games. Picking the lesser of evils. I'd like to see less 'heroic' characters in Bioware's stories, and more ambiguous characters who may or may not be good or bad. Just some guy or girl, out to fend for themselves, and, on the way, may or may not help people with the decisions they make. It gives a story more believability than some guy who can slay dragons and unite nations in wars. But honestly, it's just a personal preference; I'm not saying it's right for everyone. I do, however, firmly believe this sort of narrative makes a story that much better, because people can relate more readily to it.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 10 juin 2011 - 11:21 .

[Persephone]

Dariuszp wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

1) Take Anders with you & they won't die.

2) Wow, Homophobia AND lies. The LIs are bisexual not "whiny, crying homos". Varric cannot be romanced & hints at being straight. (He'll flirt with Lady Hawke exclusively) Sebastian is straight.

3) Ever read the short story detailing his fate after Awakening? But of course, it all boils down to homophobia again.

4) Yeah. my Hawke sure had loads of sex with Aveline, Sebastian, the Viscount, Meredith....etc. Actually the TW2 "romances" fit the "just want to have sex" mantra MUCH better.

Have you even PLAYED DAII at all? Based on the above, you never made it past the first 20 minutes of Act I.

Yeah right Homophobia They turn almost every character in this game into ******. I just find that strange. If I find that strange then I'm homophob. So you have heterophobia ? Be tolerant a little I dont have problem with that but it's still strange. Every character should have their own personality. Not everyone want sex with Geralt in TW.
And what i should do so noone call me a homofob ? Ask BW to make everyone BI or gay in this game ? :| So everyone are the same ? :| Are you serious or what ? Go to gay parade ? Dont be funny. I'm straight. I dont expect from everyone to be as I'm but still I dont expect that everyone will be ******. It's only natural.

Did you actualy play Awakening ? Because I find Anders much diferent. Right now he just cry and whine all the time. And he want my character ass. I see a lot of differences here.

TW2 romances were casual. You cannot even compare it. Did you even read the book ?? And they still were made with more taste (Geralt and Triss best example) but more nudity (what somple people dont need to like).

Yes I played DA II. Did you check this area name ? "REGISTERED GAME OWNER". I found that question little stupid but hey - everyone make mistakes right ?

No, they do not "turn every character into a ******" in DAII. That's a fact.

And not everyone wants sex from Hawke in DAII. 4 people you get to know better might fall in love with you in DAII as opposed to a "romance" with Triss being forced upon you and some meaningless romps added in to cater to the male audience.

I played Awakening. His fate is foreshadowed there (Banters with Justice etc.) and his old snark & wit often comes through in DAII. Then there is Jennifer Hepler's short story. Interesting read. Yes, Anders may flirt with your Hawke. So what? Women have flirted with me as well (I am a woman) & I don't mind it, even if I am mostly straight.

How was the "romance" with Triss done more "tastefully"?

Having the game registered doesn't stand for having played the game. Why else would you post these things that aren't true?

[TAJ4Life]

culletron1 wrote...

CDProjekt has stated that Bioware games have been an inspiration and you can see they lifted a lot of Bioware elements and put them into their witcher games...

So now that they have pushed the envelope a little bit with TW2 what elements do guys you think Bioware can take from the Witcher2 and add into their own games??


For instance I would love to see 

• The day/night cycles from TW2
• The life cycles of the NPCs (who always seem to be doing something)
• The more mature language 
• The gfx (obviously) 

What would you like to see?

If you are talking about The Witcher 2 then I would say DO NOT ADD NOTHING FROM THAT GAME!

I am sorry but that game is an absolute disgrace to the RPG genre.

Extremely poor combat, poor animations, no tutorials, no quick acess to potions and yet another FAIL from Atari.

There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

[Xewaka]

TAJ4Life wrote...
There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

The entire chapter 2 changes based on your decisions of chapter one. That is the kind of reactivity any RPG should have. Your statement is wrong.

[Fraevar]

Xewaka wrote...

TAJ4Life wrote...
There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

The entire chapter 2 changes based on your decisions of chapter one. That is the kind of reactivity any RPG should have. Your statement is wrong.

What Xewaka said.

[Persephone]

Xewaka wrote...

TAJ4Life wrote...
There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

The entire chapter 2 changes based on your decisions of chapter one. That is the kind of reactivity any RPG should have. Your statement is wrong.

This. If TW2 did something right, the decisions are it. Then there are the gorgeous enviroments, multiple branches for almost every quest......interesting characters....and I adore the combat system.

[Dariuszp]

Persephone wrote...

[CUT]

No, they do not "turn every character into a ******" in DAII. That's a fact.

And not everyone wants sex from Hawke in DAII. 4 people you get to know better might fall in love with you in DAII as opposed to a "romance" with Triss being forced upon you and some meaningless romps added in to cater to the male audience.

I played Awakening. His fate is foreshadowed there (Banters with Justice etc.) and his old snark & wit often comes through in DAII. Then there is Jennifer Hepler's short story. Interesting read. Yes, Anders may flirt with your Hawke. So what? Women have flirted with me as well (I am a woman) & I don't mind it, even if I am mostly straight.

How was the "romance" with Triss done more "tastefully"?

Having the game registered doesn't stand for having played the game. Why else would you post these things that aren't true?

Well most of them. About that Triss part. You should know that Geralt and Triss have history from the book and Witcher 1. So it's not forced in any way.
I dont have problem with Anders flitring with someone. It just dont fit him. Well it's fit this whiny part from DA II but not Anders i remember from Awakening.
I did play and finish the game.
And if you read wiki - almost every character is bi. This is what i find strange.

Only thing I ask is that they make some balance with characters. There was ******/bi companions in DAO and i never got problem with that. Because it was not forced in any way.
Here you got anders who want my character ass and when i say NO then he add some points to rivaly. It's stupid in my opinion. You cannot even escape from this situation. You hand your ass to him and got +X points or dont and you got -X points. And with everyone else is practicly the same.

But we move too far away from the topic. What i want to say is that characters in TW2 are made better. Not everyone are good but you still have common goal with them and work with them. Vernon Roche, Iorweth even Kingslayer Leto. They dont feel like pure evil and yet still they are no saints.

But still DA is more like "heroic fantasy" nad Witcher is "dark fantasy". But i like dark fantasy and It's something I want to see in BW games a little.

[Dariuszp]

TAJ4Life wrote...

culletron1 wrote...

CDProjekt has stated that Bioware games have been an inspiration and you can see they lifted a lot of Bioware elements and put them into their witcher games...

So now that they have pushed the envelope a little bit with TW2 what elements do guys you think Bioware can take from the Witcher2 and add into their own games??


For instance I would love to see 

• The day/night cycles from TW2
• The life cycles of the NPCs (who always seem to be doing something)
• The more mature language 
• The gfx (obviously) 

What would you like to see?

If you are talking about The Witcher 2 then I would say DO NOT ADD NOTHING FROM THAT GAME!

I am sorry but that game is an absolute disgrace to the RPG genre.

Extremely poor combat, poor animations, no tutorials, no quick acess to potions and yet another FAIL from Atari.

There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

[*]Are you trying to tell me that tactical oriented combat is poor and button smashing is ok ? That animations is bad but when everything around you is static - it's good ? And when that animation is bad ?  Lack of tutorial - +1 for you here. Quick access to potions - they work for 10 minutes. And this time can take more. When i take them on the beninging in prologue (part when you attack castle) they work even at the end. I suggest you try to play. GFX - no comments here. BW should upgrade their engine. Living world, day/night cycle, mature game that is +18. DA is +18 but i dont see why. Turn off that blood and it's +10.

[Persephone]

Dariuszp wrote...

Persephone wrote...

[CUT]

No, they do not "turn every character into a ******" in DAII. That's a fact.

And not everyone wants sex from Hawke in DAII. 4 people you get to know better might fall in love with you in DAII as opposed to a "romance" with Triss being forced upon you and some meaningless romps added in to cater to the male audience.

I played Awakening. His fate is foreshadowed there (Banters with Justice etc.) and his old snark & wit often comes through in DAII. Then there is Jennifer Hepler's short story. Interesting read. Yes, Anders may flirt with your Hawke. So what? Women have flirted with me as well (I am a woman) & I don't mind it, even if I am mostly straight.

How was the "romance" with Triss done more "tastefully"?

Having the game registered doesn't stand for having played the game. Why else would you post these things that aren't true?

Well most of them. About that Triss part. You should know that Geralt and Triss have history from the book and Witcher 1. So it's not forced in any way.
I dont have problem with Anders flitring with someone. It just dont fit him. Well it's fit this whiny part from DA II but not Anders i remember from Awakening.
I did play and finish the game.
And if you read wiki - almost every character is bi. This is what i find strange.

Only thing I ask is that they make some balance with characters. There was ******/bi companions in DAO and i never got problem with that. Because it was not forced in any way.
Here you got anders who want my character ass and when i say NO then he add some points to rivaly. It's stupid in my opinion. You cannot even escape from this situation. You hand your ass to him and got +X points or dont and you got -X points. And with everyone else is practicly the same.

But we move too far away from the topic. What i want to say is that characters in TW2 are made better. Not everyone are good but you still have common goal with them and work with them. Vernon Roche, Iorweth even Kingslayer Leto. They dont feel like pure evil and yet still they are no saints.

But still DA is more like "heroic fantasy" nad Witcher is "dark fantasy". But i like dark fantasy and It's something I want to see in BW games a little.

History or not, Triss is forced on you in TW2, even if you chose Shani in TW1. That's bad writing right there.

Sure it fits Anders to flirt with someone he cares about, he is a very passionate, intense character.

I don't have to read the Wiki to know that not NEARLY every character in DAII is bi. The LIs are because many fans wanted it that way and the devs did too. And I'm glad of it!

Of course you get a few rivalry points if you turn someone down. It's realistic for them to be upset. And Rivalry points aren't bad. You can either gain the Friendship back (Easily) or go down the Rivalry route which is wonderfully written for Anders. (IMO) Offering more insight and a different fate for Anders in the end.

And no, it's not "the same with everyone else". Not AT ALL.

I do agree with your final statement however.

[Tirfan]

Well, not having played TW1 before I played TW2 (don't even own that game, perhaps I should play it too, although, some of my friends have warned me of it, because it just isn't as good as TW2) the lack of tutorial did bother me. Can't say Triss bothered me - could be different if I had played TW1.

And well, lets not pretend that DA2 didn't force decisions (I'm looking at you Leliana, YOU ARE DEAD)

All in all, TW2 is much better. Different, but in a completely in its own realm when compared to DA2, and now that I'm on my second playtrough in TW2 and getting actually better at the combat I think I might enjoy this game even more.

[Dariuszp]

About lack of tutorial, I'm trying to prepare one. Show basic stuff while playing. Game is recorded by fraps. Because of that i have lower framerate on ultra settings (without ubersampling and i turon off camera blur because i dont like that effect) - about 30-40 (more than 50 without fraps). Still game is recorder with 30fps because YT dont want more.

Gameplay + YT comments.


It's first part from 6. If ppl will like it i will put more later.

Modifié par Dariuszp, 10 juin 2011 - 12:23 .

[Corto81]

Persephone wrote...


Sure it fits Anders to flirt with someone he cares about, he is a very passionate, intense character.

I don't have to read the Wiki to know that not NEARLY every character in DAII is bi. The LIs are because many fans wanted it that way and the devs did too. And I'm glad of it!

Of course you get a few rivalry points if you turn someone down. It's realistic for them to be upset.

I generally agree with most of your points (even though I think DA2 is a bad bad blemish on BW's record, and I don't see the game you do - in fact I think it's poor by ANY proper standards), but I don't agree about that one.

My RL gay friend would never hit on me.
And if he for some reason did, he would not feel upset at being turned down, he knows his entire gender isn't interesting to me.

Honestly, he was bothered by Anders' way more than any straight guy I know, as he saw his "stereotype" in the game as someone who'd push their sexuality on others.

So, no, IMO no, that part about Anders isn't realistic at all.

[erynnar]

Dariuszp wrote...

About lack of tutorial, I'm trying to prepare one. Show basic stuff while playing. Game is recorded by fraps. Because of that i have lower framerate on ultra settings (without ubersampling and i turon off camera blur because i dont like that effect) - about 30-40 (more than 50 without fraps). Still game is recorder with 30fps because YT dont want more.

Gameplay + YT comments.


It's first part from 6. If ppl will like it i will put more later.

Oh thanks Dari!

[erynnar]

Corto81 wrote...

Persephone wrote...


Sure it fits Anders to flirt with someone he cares about, he is a very passionate, intense character.

I don't have to read the Wiki to know that not NEARLY every character in DAII is bi. The LIs are because many fans wanted it that way and the devs did too. And I'm glad of it!

Of course you get a few rivalry points if you turn someone down. It's realistic for them to be upset.

I generally agree with most of your points (even though I think DA2 is a bad bad blemish on BW's record, and I don't see the game you do - in fact I think it's poor by ANY proper standards), but I don't agree about that one.

My RL gay friend would never hit on me.
And if he for some reason did, he would not feel upset at being turned down, he knows his entire gender isn't interesting to me.

Honestly, he was bothered by Anders' way more than any straight guy I know, as he saw his "stereotype" in the game as someone who'd push their sexuality on others.

So, no, IMO no, that part about Anders isn't realistic at all.

My friend, David, at work is gay. And he says the community is rather small, one of my other coworkers is gay and I didn't know. If I had been single I surely would have hit on him too. If he turned me down because he doesn't like girls he wouldn't have earned rivalry points from me. What? I am going to get mad or upset at the person because they didn't like me back? I might be disappointed, but the rivalry points are directed at the PC. So that isn't realistic either.

@Persephone you asked me nyperbole much? Well I am asking you that this time. TW2 is not a sex fest. You can't have sex here there and everywhere with anyone at anytime. Can you pay for it with a ****? Sure, if you got hte money honey(more often than not, you don't so you'll get turned down). The only person my Geralt has managed to have sex with is Triss. I understand I might be able to sleep with a few others, but it is hardly the "sex fest" WItcher 1 is (be careful looking for videos on things Wicther related with kids around, LOL). So let's not exaggerate the sex in TW2, since be have both played it.

Modifié par erynnar, 10 juin 2011 - 10:54 .

[Siegdrifa]

TAJ4Life wrote...

If you are talking about The Witcher 2 then I would say DO NOT ADD NOTHING FROM THAT GAME!

I am sorry but that game is an absolute disgrace to the RPG genre.

Extremely poor combat, poor animations, no tutorials, no quick acess to potions and yet another FAIL from Atari.

There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

1.5/10 as a trolling attempt, i didn't even lol .... try harder next time.

[erynnar]

Siegdrifa wrote...

TAJ4Life wrote...

If you are talking about The Witcher 2 then I would say DO NOT ADD NOTHING FROM THAT GAME!

I am sorry but that game is an absolute disgrace to the RPG genre.

Extremely poor combat, poor animations, no tutorials, no quick acess to potions and yet another FAIL from Atari.

There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

1.5/10 as a trolling attempt, i didn't even lol .... try harder next time.

1.5/10 Siegdfrifa you are being generous! That was 0 or .5 at the most. They need more practice.

[Dragoonlordz]

Persephone wrote...

Dariuszp wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...
Also agree that illusion of choice was handled better in TW2 - and obviously from a meta-gaming standpoint CDProjekt offered real choice. After all, depending on what side you choose there are whole areas/sidequests/characters that you never encounter, and big story points that you won't fully understand until and unless you replay. That's great stuff there.  One of my favourite bits of DA2 was choosing whether to take the Hawke sibling to the Deep Roads. That decision, along with deciding who else to take, actually had a bit of an effect on something in-game, that's what I'd like to see more of and to greater extent.

{WATCH OUT! SPOILER}
That stuff with your brother/sister was one of few things i did expect to be nice with this game but it was f**k up like everything else. If you take him/she to deep roads - he die - end of stroy.
If you dont take him he/she will join templars/mages  - he/she is gone - end of story.

Almost nothing change after that. It was nice thing but they waste it.

Another thing i dont like is that your companions are not so good.  Only one companion I did like in this game was Aveline. Noone else. All others was turn in some whiny, crying ******.
Biggest crime was to turn Anders into that "thing". It was well made character in Awakening and they destroy him. In Awakening i never expect him to be gay.

So next thing that i want from TW2 are unique characters. In DA II everyone except Varric want just have sex with you.

1) Take Anders with you & they won't die.

2) Wow, Homophobia AND lies. The LIs are bisexual not "whiny, crying homos". Varric cannot be romanced & hints at being straight. (He'll flirt with Lady Hawke exclusively) Sebastian is straight.

3) Ever read the short story detailing his fate after Awakening? But of course, it all boils down to homophobia again.

4) Yeah. my Hawke sure had loads of sex with Aveline, Sebastian, the Viscount, Meredith....etc. Actually the TW2 "romances" fit the "just want to have sex" mantra MUCH better.

Have you even PLAYED DAII at all? Based on the above, you never made it past the first 20 minutes of Act I.

Don't assume Varric is straight same with Sebastion. The same answer was given by the fanatics regarding Anders how just because says like's females and didn't specifically say "I am straight and don't fancy men" then turned out would date men in DA2 regardless of fact he flirted with female Warden in DAA. Same applies with Varric and Sebastion.

[Dragoonlordz]

erynnar wrote...

Siegdrifa wrote...

TAJ4Life wrote...

If you are talking about The Witcher 2 then I would say DO NOT ADD NOTHING FROM THAT GAME!

I am sorry but that game is an absolute disgrace to the RPG genre.

Extremely poor combat, poor animations, no tutorials, no quick acess to potions and yet another FAIL from Atari.

There is NOTHING good about The Witcher 2.

1.5/10 as a trolling attempt, i didn't even lol .... try harder next time.

1.5/10 Siegdfrifa you are being generous! That was 0 or .5 at the most. They need more practice.

Personally his trolling efforts go into the minus figures.