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[woods26]

Didn't like Jack at all. The writing was laughable at times and the cursing was to forced.

[Rogue Unit]

Tali. She is a racist.

[Jebel Krong]

jack - badly conceived character, no redeeming qualities, should have been optional to recruit given her... instability... and inability to play nice with others. none of her conversations are good or interesting and just reinforce the negative opinion of her as shallow and cliche with boatloads of unlikeable being thrown in. even her LM doesn't add much depth, so you can't even feel sorry for her when you are supposed to.

tali - so boring and simple encyclopaedic in me1, transformed into hero-worshipper in ME2 (talking over from Liara), and lets not even go into the ridiculous fan-service romance option (applies to garrus too but he's a better character, with an edge by ME2).

Liara, pre-LoSB, and especially during ME1, was the annoying hero-worship character, thankfully changed by LoSB into someone actually interesting, hopefully they won't ruin that by illogically incorporating her into ME3.

Ashley - as VS on horizon, completely destroyed her character, but i blame the writers for that, not really the character. she did have some depth in me1, once you got past the xenophobia, but the poetry thing was awful. her actions and lack of faith in Shepard in ME2 killed the character.

jacob/kaiden have zero personality - hard to dislike but they are both kinda anonymous.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 25 mai 2011 - 02:02 .

[Deanooo]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Well,Tali is good with tech. Other than that,I really see no reason for her being on the team.

I think you could apply this to a few chracters, the characters are there for there personality really, lets be honest most of them are useless (especially on insanity), i could just say grunts just a krogan, or garrus is just a merc.

[Mathy16]

I do not dislike any characters, but I do have least favorite characters...
Thes characters are:
- Samara because of her voice and stupid code
- Jacob because of his inability to lie

[Someone With Mass]

Miranda. There's literally nothing good about her. Becomes horribly obsolete once Kasumi is recruited, too.

[armass]

Mesina2 wrote...

armass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

armass wrote...

What you trying to change my opinion now? Good luck with that.

No, just you didn't even tried to investigate Kasumi's character.

Im not usually intrested in characters i dont like. Ive talked to her, but the girl doesnt even have any normal dialogue options. She just talks about "things" when you click.

What do you care if i dont like her, if i dont, so what? Some people don't like Tali here, some dont like Thane. We cant all like the same things.

You can still talk with her without dialogue wheel.

Also why Zaeed isn't on the list as well?

Cause him i actually kinda like. I love the way he kills Vido, when you do his mission renegade style("Fry, you son of a ****!"). Plus he didn't cost any extra money to me, unlike kasumi. Like i said, i liked Kasumi's mission, but for the person, i dont really care for. Sorry.

Modifié par armass, 25 mai 2011 - 02:32 .

[CroGamer002]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Ashley - as VS on horizon, completely destroyed her character, but i blame the writers for that, not really the character. she did have some depth in me1, once you got past the xenophobia, but the poetry thing was awful. her actions and lack of faith in Shepard in ME2 killed the character.

How is Ashley's character destroyed on Horizon? Only badly written there are Shepard's responses.

And no, she's not xenophobic.
She doesn't trust Garrus because he's a Turian and humans were in war with them 40 years ago.
Wrex is a Krogan, who are known to be very aggresive, and mercenary.

She doesn't trust Liara until you kill Benezia( she even tells Shepard to talk to her about that) and she is jealous of her only if you are ManShep.


And she never commented on Tali even though her race is rumored to be bunch of thieves, responsible for Geth( hell, she even says to Tali on elevator that killing Geth would change people's mind on Quarians) and she even has access to Normandy's engines and stealth. Never complained.

Do I have to mention she hates Terra Firma and Cerberus.



And for that comment that aliens look like animals? Well they do, you can't deny that. And she never told that to any alien face.



For poetry? Different taste. I personally like her poetry.

[Jebel Krong]

Mesina2 wrote...
*snip*

not being able to see past your own blind loyalty to the alliance after everything you saw (together) in ME1? yeah i'd call that either character assassination or bad writing - especially if she was an me1 romance - it pretty much completely contravenes all her character development during ME1. hell she doesn't even try to understand Shepard's side, even taking into account there are no satisfactory explanation responses.

oh and yeah she was xenophobic: you don't compare sentient beings to animals without being that, whichever way you cut it, so don't fool yourself.

[CroGamer002]

Jebel Krong wrote...

not being able to see past your own blind loyalty to the alliance after everything you saw (together) in ME1? yeah i'd call that either character assassination or bad writing - especially if she was an me1 romance - it pretty much completely contravenes all her character development during ME1. hell she doesn't even try to understand Shepard's side, even taking into account there are no satisfactory explanation responses.

She's big Alliance patriot, Shepard was dead for 2 years and returns out of nowhere while working with Cerberus( that is enemy of Alliance) and Shepard gives badly explains to her why he/she joins Cerberus.

How is that out of her character?

oh and yeah she was xenophobic: you don't compare sentient beings to animals without being that, whichever way you cut it, so don't fool yourself.

Would Wrex be racist if he says that humans look like monkey's?

[Golden Owl]

I don't hate pixel characters....but I do have my personality dislikes in the game:

Krogan in general...I don't like the high aggression, war seeking, blood thristy comments culture....this includes krogan squaddies.

Salarians in general...They strike me as a blatantly arrogant culture....this includes salarian squaddie.

As for individuals:

Miranda....I find her arrogant and ruthless, neither an appealing trait.....and woe to me self centeredness ...she needs to open her eyes and look around...I always found it ironic that one of her powers includes the words "No one gets left behind", because she is certainly one of the squaddies most likely to do just that.

Ash and Jacob (though Jacobs honesty is a plus for him)....just so full of constant negative comments.

Jack....Okay, yes I feel quite sorry for her, what happened to her is beyond shocking...Cerberus has so much to answer for....But please Jack let up on the attitude and foul mouth, its just too much....and I think she is a time bomb, is too dangerous to have wandering the Normandy.

Liara...I didn't mind her in ME1...a bit too soft, but alright....In ME2 she becomes rather ruthless, as can be seen from above comments, ruthless just does not appeal to me.

Meh...on squaddies throwing themselves at Shep....is an annoyance dodging romance bullets.

LOVE: Garrus, Kasumi, Legion...:-)

Modifié par Golden Owl, 25 mai 2011 - 03:08 .

[Jebel Krong]

Mesina2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

not being able to see past your own blind loyalty to the alliance after everything you saw (together) in ME1? yeah i'd call that either character assassination or bad writing - especially if she was an me1 romance - it pretty much completely contravenes all her character development during ME1. hell she doesn't even try to understand Shepard's side, even taking into account there are no satisfactory explanation responses.

She's big Alliance patriot, Shepard was dead for 2 years and returns out of nowhere while working with Cerberus( that is enemy of Alliance) and Shepard gives badly explains to her why he/she joins Cerberus.

How is that out of her character?

oh and yeah she was xenophobic: you don't compare sentient beings to animals without being that, whichever way you cut it, so don't fool yourself.

Would Wrex be racist if he says that humans look like monkey's?

you don't get time to explain - she jumps down your throat first: "i'm alliance through and through" blah blah blah after years in the wilderness and it being Shepard that showed the faith and gave her the 2nd chance. again, given the events of ME1 and start of ME2 you would have expected more, particularly if she was a previous romance. i guess the sudden favour the alliance showed her after Shep's actions during ME1 coloured her vision, given the family history, huh? and hating cerberus (or earth first), too, is not a defence - you don't have to be part of the **** party to be racist...

and yes: wrex could be being racist, though knowing wrex he would probably be joking. ashley is dead serious when telling her "don't bet them staying allies" story and comparing the alien species to dogs.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 25 mai 2011 - 03:05 .

[SennenScale]

Jebel Krong wrote...

and yes: wrex could be being racist, though knowing wrex he would probably be joking. ashley is dead serious when telling her "don't bet them staying allies" story and comparing the alien species to dogs.

Dude...humans were the dogs in that analogy.

[Jebel Krong]

SennenScale wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

and yes: wrex could be being racist, though knowing wrex he would probably be joking. ashley is dead serious when telling her "don't bet them staying allies" story and comparing the alien species to dogs.

Dude...humans were the dogs in that analogy.

er, no they weren't. besides which that wasn't her only xenophobic comment, just the one i chose to highlight. i didn't say she stayed xenophobic post me1 - when a lot of the issues she had were resolved by the family history being nullified.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 25 mai 2011 - 03:10 .

[Someone With Mass]

By that logic, Jacob is also a racist, because he calls Garrus a "cuttlebone" if he's rejected during his romance.

[SennenScale]

Jebel Krong wrote...

SennenScale wrote...
Dude...humans were the dogs in that analogy.

er, no they weren't. besides which that wasn't her only xenophobic comment, just the one i chose to highlight. i didn't say she stayed xenophobic post me1 - when a lot of the issues she had were resolved by the family history being nullified.

Yes, they were. You weren't paying attention.

Her analogy went: Even if aliens were our allies, when backed to into a corner, they would sacrifice a member of a different species before one of their own, like how a human would sacrifice their dog if confronted by a bear. Aliens being the dog owner, humans being the dog, and some outside threat being the bear.

Modifié par SennenScale, 25 mai 2011 - 03:14 .

[Asari Commando]

*on the subject of disliking ashley for shooting wrex, really? if your char had good charm/intimidate wrex can easily calm down, and you avoid the whole situation? also you didnt even have to go that far, if you previously helped him with family armor, he now trusts you and calls you friend. soo, ya that was an easy fix.

love all these characters, for the most part i have a tough time choosing with one i want to bring with me. i have been struggling to find the "perfect squad" and switching out different tech/biotics crew members.

the only character i dislike (generous choice of words) is joker, the pilot. mainly because i absolutely HATE seth green, and every appearance he has ever made in any show. he always plays some arrogant ass that nobody likes, and second i walked to the head of normandy i recognized that voice. was very disappointing, i love everything about ME but having him voice a character gets me so angry. if only they let me break his cripple legs, or atleast kick him off the ship. i can just picture seth green in that studio urking the creaters to make his guy "soo cool, best pilot in the alliance." baaah  [end rant]

[Ymladdych]

Modifié par Ymladdych, 10 septembre 2011 - 03:46 .

[jmood88]

Kaidan- He was boring, horrible in combat, and I hate the fact that people on this site love him yet will constantly bash Jacob, who is the exact same character (except he's actually useful in combat).

[Ghost Warrior]

Wanted to comment on Ashley. I don't think she was racist in ME1,she was just careful,for good reason. In ME1,she was actually one of my favourite characters. But on Horizon I just wanted to yell "open your eyes,you blind ****!". I mean,Shepard deserved at least a chance to explain himself,after everything he did in the first game.

[Aimi]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Miranda. There's literally nothing good about her. Becomes horribly obsolete once Kasumi is recruited, too.

Naw, Warp is a vastly better debuff than Shadow Strike (time to cast, ability to hit faraway targets and targets in air, extra usefulness against krogan), and Flashbang can't set up Warp bombs.  Plus, her passive isn't broken like Kasumi's is.  She's still got her role.  Just in terms of gameplay, of course, your opinion about her character is fine.  I don't share it, but it makes sense.

As far as characters I personally dislike, well, the existence of Morinth bugged me, and Jack isn't particularly fun to be around, but honestly, I don't really have a beef with anybody.  It's more that the interactions with those characters can be kind of annoying, like Garrus' calibrations and the inability to pursue a normal para**** conversation with potential romances.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I wouldn't say i hate any of the characters... I think some just tended to blend into the background for me.. Miranda was a prime example if we're talking Mass Effect 2, over half of her dialogue is restricted to romance so i didn't get to know her at all as a character, which left her kind of bland.

Jack had some character growth, but again, without romancing her there was a great deal you missed out on, which is kind of like a massive slap in the face for people that either romance other characters or avoid romances all together.

It's a recurring theme in Mass Effect2... There was a lot of character development and each of the characters were great in their own ways through-out the game.. The problem was having to romance each option to actually get to know the characters... I pursued all romances in ME2 ( Except Jacob ) simply because i wanted to get to know the characters better. In my opinion i shouldn't have to do that to know my Squad.

So overall, no Squadies that i hated in Mass Effect2, none that i hated in the first game either. I think they're all very well written.. Just, poorly executed in the game...... There's one Squadie in ME2 I *did* really take an interest in with ME2 and that was Mordin, and that was purely because i didn't have to romance him to talk.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 25 mai 2011 - 03:52 .

[jeweledleah]

jmood88 wrote...

Kaidan- He was boring, horrible in combat, and I hate the fact that people on this site love him yet will constantly bash Jacob, who is the exact same character (except he's actually useful in combat).

actualy most people who like Kaidan, also like Jacob with a few exceptions of people who were put off by Hales voice when talking to him.  However, they are not the same characters, not by a long shot.  the only thing they have in common is wanting to do some good and being human male biotics.  their origins and backstories are different, their attidudes are very different (Kaidan is a lot more easy going while at the same time being a lot more concerned with the methods, while Jacob is more prickly and will tollerate questionable methods as long as the goals and results are just).  the biggest issues with both actualy is that you don't relaly get to know them well enough unless you play a femshep and romance them  (especialy true with Kaidan who even if you do NOT romance him, gets extra conversations with femshep)

Kaidan is extrememly useful in combat, IF specced correctly - he opens locks as well as Tali, he's almost as good of a biotic as Liara, he can deal with synthetics beautifuly and overload merc weapons, and he has first aid, so in one squadmate - you have everything you can possibly need, leaving your second teammate spot open to whomever you want to bring regardless of their skill set not to mention, he works well with any class Shepard.

Jacob...  I like his character a great deal, he has one of the best if not THE best romance conversations in the game, but as for his combat ability....  he's a lot squishier then Kaidan in my experience, his special ability is basicaly useless, he likes to keep overriding other ammo powers with his own (so I just end up speccing him into inferno instead) and while he's not a useless teammate, I tend to bring him along less then others, despite liking him, becasue others just have more versatile skillsets that work with my playstyle better.

As for disliking characters?  I went through a period of not liking Tali because her voice and her attitude was getting on my nerves (I'm mostly back to simply not caring about her now) and I didn't really warm up to Ashley untill my second playthrough of ME1 (tone down the snark there, lady), and at one point having to be friends with Liara no matter what really grated, but in generaly - I don't actively hate characters.  I just have characters that I prefer and characters that won't make me as sad if I have to sacrifice them.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 25 mai 2011 - 04:05 .

[Clonedzero]

Jebel Krong wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

and yes: wrex could be being racist, though knowing wrex he would probably be joking. ashley is dead serious when telling her "don't bet them staying allies" story and comparing the alien species to dogs.

Dude...humans were the dogs in that analogy.

er, no they weren't. besides which that wasn't her only xenophobic comment, just the one i chose to highlight. i didn't say she stayed xenophobic post me1 - when a lot of the issues she had were resolved by the family history being nullified.

no, he's right, in that analogy the humans were the dogs.