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[-Skorpious-]

Jack: She basically destroyed an entire space station because, well, "why the **** not?". Thats enough reason for me to dislike her character.

Miranda: She was portrayed as cold, calculating and brutal, but in-game was nothing but a blind Cerberus zealot with self-confidence issues (ok, she 'weens' herself off of Cerberus at the end of ME2, so I'll give her some credit). Oh, her idea of 'combat armor' is a complete joke.

ME2 Liara: What. Happened. To. Her. Seriously, she became a completely different person in the two year gap between ME and ME2. And no, I don't consider the events of Redemption to be an excuse for such a drastic change in character (especially since my Shepard is not in a relationship with her).

Hell, Garrus changed post-ME, but at least the guy is recognizable.

[eye basher]

Kaidan and ashley i hate them they have no job whatsoever there just there to look pretty. Give ther spot to any other random redshirt in the normandy and there wont be any difference.

[lolwut666]

Miranda: A callous zealot that thinks she knows more than she actually does.

Liara: She was alright in the first game, but became a Mary Sue in the second.

Jacob: Alternates between being annoying and being unremarkable.

[Nashiktal]

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Jack....Okay, yes I feel quite sorry for her, what happened to her is beyond shocking...Cerberus has so much to answer for....But please Jack let up on the attitude and foul mouth, its just too much....and I think she is a time bomb, is too dangerous to have wandering the Normandy.

I love Jack, but I can see where you are coming from. My opinion is that if you treated her with even a modicum of respect in ME2 you will have one fierce protector going forward, regardless of gender. 

Wrong. If you are a guy, and don't romance her... Well I don't need to repeat myself. I would be more open to jack if I didn't have to romance her to get to know her.

[billywaffles]

Hmmm I would say Liara, because she is the only character that bioware has made unkillable. Second would be tali, because of all annoying talimancers she has attracted. I'm sorry for this but I find it really annoying.

[MattDratt]

Miranda. Her personally is meh

[Captain Kibosh]

I'm going to answer this question as which characacter do I find the least compelling instead of which character do I like the least, because someone like Jack I would probably dislike to the extreme in real life, being a murderer, thief, and all around whiny malcontent, but in terms of storytelling, she's quite an intriguing character.

Jacob Taylor dispappoints me, which is a aurprise to me, because there are aspects to his person that in theory should amount to an engaging character, but the whole never becomes greater than the sum of its parts in this case.

He seems to be a thinking man's marine, which I like (no jarhead macho cliche here).   He is also forthright and doesn't like to bs, something I also think is interesting for a character.  But nothing really pop's in his personality, whether he's challenging Shepard or making small talk.

Even his baggage (like his daddy issues), which are legitimate, somehow come off as small and bitter the way he expresses himself.  God knows I wouldn't have wanted him to become a Samuel L. Jackson character (speaking of cliches), but there he's so...yawn-inducing.

And in terms of game play, he's one of my least favorite teammates to bring on a mission.  I hate the "Lift" biotic in general, and if you take away that, he's left with pyro bullets and a body shield (assuming you gained his loyalty).  Meh.

Whenever Shepard had the option to ask a crewmember, "What do you think of Miranda AND Jacob," I half expected them to way heavily in on the topic of Miranda and say, "Who?" for Jacob.

[sevalaricgirl]

008Zulu wrote...

Kaiden. Its the voice, cant get past the whiny sound the V.A did in Knights of the Old Republic.
Thane. I don't know why, he just bugs me.

I love Raphael Sbarge.  He's my favorite voice actor and Kaidan is my favorite character, obviously.  The only character I dislike is Zaeed. 

[The Fan]

 I LOVE EM ALL 

[Hathur]

Dislike Thane & Samara for the same reason... they're almost clinically insane or too equivalent to religious fundamentalists.

Thane has utterly insane logic on ethics & morality... effectively he believes "I don't kill people.... my gun & body which were hired by someone else kill people" .... that's madness I cannot abide at all.

Samara is just as bad.. basically a fanatical zealot with a truly insane "code" ... she'd kill a moral, good person if they got in her way of killing her prey.... she's utterly and completely insane to tie herself to this moronic, fanatical code.

People call Jack crazy... but compared to Thane & Samara, Jack is utterly and totally sane... there's at least logic to Jack's madness.

Thane & Samara have no excuse though.. they're just outright insane and immoral. At least Jack & Zaeed know they are cruel and even evil at times and make no apologies for it... they don't try to fool themselves or others with some bs "code" or other excuse.

Modifié par Hathur, 26 mai 2011 - 01:16 .

[Golden Owl]

Nashiktal wrote...

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Jack....Okay, yes I feel quite sorry for her, what happened to her is beyond shocking...Cerberus has so much to answer for....But please Jack let up on the attitude and foul mouth, its just too much....and I think she is a time bomb, is too dangerous to have wandering the Normandy.

I love Jack, but I can see where you are coming from. My opinion is that if you treated her with even a modicum of respect in ME2 you will have one fierce protector going forward, regardless of gender. 

Wrong. If you are a guy, and don't romance her... Well I don't need to repeat myself. I would be more open to jack if I didn't have to romance her to get to know her.

I disagree....I play a manShep and don't romance her, but I still feel she's got his back.....But though I agree that she gives the feel of a fierce protector and would do anything for Shep, if you paragon her....I don't feel she has very good self control though and as such does remain a loose cannon....her intentions maybe good, but I think her hot, reactive temper could let her down.

[M-Sinistrari]

I have to agree with others that hate is a very strong word to be used against a pixelated character.

What fits more in my case is 'Characters that I barely if ever use unless I absolutely have to and if I can/could get away without recruiting them I most certainly would because I find them redundant or pretty much worthless as a teammate.'

Liara: All she's really needed for in my playthroughs is to tell Shep how to get to Ilos. If I could just have Shep drop her off somewhere like the Citadel afterwards, I would. Gameplaywise, biotics are covered amply between Wrex and Kaidan, and even moreso if I'm running a biotic Shep. As far as her romance goes, it just comes across to me as she's not so much interested in Shep as a person but more wanting that juicy prothean info in his/her brain. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she slipped an Embrace Paternity in all the embracing eternity with how obsessive she comes across.

I understand she's not too skilled with the social graces, but even with that rationale, my Sheps kinda wish they had a can of mace and a restraining order.

Thane: Pretty much everything about him sets me to eyerolling, and I do have a few playthroughs where I simply didn't bother with recruiting him at all. I don't find the broody emo types appealing at all and when I found out that he was designed by asking the women at Bioware what they found sexy, I did have a moment of wanting to raid the offices to find proof of Twilight or Anita Blake fans. Gameplaywise he really offers nothing. Sniping's more than amply covered with Garrus, Zaeed, Legion and sometimes Shep. Biotics are very amply covered by Jack, Samara, Shep and Jacob.

Tali: Much like with Liara, all I really need her for is the evidence against Saren. Tech's covered well with Kaidan and Garrus, Kasumi or Shep at times. Romance, I *still* can't see where that came from since I see no hints of it whatsoever in ME1 (same with Garrus), and in ME2 it smacks too much of Liara's "heroworship so I must do the rumpy-pumpy with you". If she didn't have the ship upgrade from her loyalty mission, I'd likely not bother with her at all, and on some of my playthroughs where I didn't do full upgrades, it wasn't gamebreaking without her.

Miranda: Yvonne Strahovski's managing to make a character so offsetting to me has really made me appreciate her as an actress. Gameplaywise, Miranda's abilities are again covered by other characters like Jacob, Garrus, Kasumi. I know she's got the nice squaddie bump, but with how the AI handles her on my system, she's more often dead in a flash with each fight. I swear, she's the one who goes through all of my Shep's medigel. Her pro-Cerberus attitude to the near point of delusion about the dark side of Cerberus doesn't sit well with any of my Sheps, and her recanting at the end comes across more as a saving her own skin than a genuine repentance to me. Romance, it just smacked more of trophy sex than something remotely serious.

In the majority of my playthroughs, she's dead. But I do have a few where she lived just so I can see what happens with her come ME3.

[Golden Owl]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Yeah, Kaidan tells us about the history of human biotic training and his personal experience while Jacob only does one brief and vague mention about the Corsairs. Kaidan also has a far better romance path and personally I think it's the best one in the franchise(which isn't saying much tbh).

Jacob always felt out of place to me in the squad. There's utterly no substance to him and it's no different than having Gardner or Chakwas in the squad. He's litterally just a security guard who happened to be at the right time and place and stuck around for adequately explained reason.

In one conversation with those guys I knew more about them than all of the ones I had with Jacob.

I love how he also tried to glorify his position in the intro. "Technically, I'm Miranda's top Lieutenant" (what does that even mean?) "but I also run security at this station."

Yeah, OK security guy.

I'm not a Jacob fan....but I didn't get the same impression you got from that dialog....didn't he say..."but really I just run secruity at this station"....I felt he was more so just quietly denying the title bestowed on him, saying his just a soldier and thats what he would really prefer to be and how he see's himself.

[Bluefuse]

I just hope that ME3 forces us to kill off at least half our squad. It would make things veeery interesting for each playthrough.

Oh, and to be on topic with the thread, Jacob has always bored me.

[Antivenger]

Hathur wrote...

Thane & Samara have no excuse though.. they're just outright insane and immoral. At least Jack & Zaeed know they are cruel and even evil at times and make no apologies for it... they don't try to fool themselves or others with some bs "code" or other excuse.

Actually, Jack & Zaeed are the immoral ones. They know and acknowledge the standards between right and wrong, but still choose to do the latter. Thane & Samara I would say are amoral, since they pretty much ignore the whole concept of morality and kill, Kill, KILL!

I don't particularly dislike any characters, but between the squaddies I would have to say my least favourites as being Tali and Miranda. For lack or misplacement of compassion and hypocrisy, respectively.

[Xeranx]

I don't like Samara. She has all the makings of a dirty cop, period. Then she has all the makings of a dirty cop masquerading as a good cop manipulating a well-meaning individual into committing a crime so that they keep their hands clean. There's a lot I have to take on faith despite an action committed right in front of me that no upstanding individual would ever want to condone and everything she says about her goal paints her target as completely negative despite the fact I couldn't actually do any real investigating of A matter later on.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Miranda: #1 she looks annoying, she is annoying she keeps throwing her weight around spouting how she's my second in commander but to me she's TIM's lap dog I didn't pick her she was forced to be my XO, there are so many reasons why I don't like her primarily because she is a lier to me she is not only project leader of LP but she would also be technically the captain of the ship shep is only for appearances allowed to be acting captain sense all people will respond to him but she holds all the cards she decides what shep sees, where he goes, ect. I know why she is there to spy on shep and to insure everything goes to plan if not she tells TIM he flips that chip. Knowing she's looking for perfect love and can't have children have made me feel alittle for her but honestly trust is wider then the grand canyon when it comes to her. I can't wait to airlock her.

Legion: it's a love/hate sort of thing he's neat but he's creepy because he is a geth who in all of ME tried to kill me its difficult to take what he says at face value but I try to and I want to believe him but I'd still like to keep the cameras trained on him for a bit longer.

Jack: Shouldn't have been in ME2 at all an insane person doesn't belong on the battlefield no matter how good of a biotic they may be. Her personality is not just loner but uber solo she's not a team person yet she is there, she hates everybody yet for some reason she couldn't leave when we made it to port  on some hub world? What robbing a store and hiding in some hole on said port world wasn't going to work for her or something? If she fled in ME2 I wouldn't have tracked her down.

TIM: He's 1/2 of the equation who ruined my life I'm primary mad at him for playing god and bringing me back being dead is how one is no one brings them back except god which tim clearly isn't.

Collectors: they're the other 1/2 they killed me.

Conrad Verner: He's just uber annoying he's so stalker its scary!

Face of steel reporter: She has it out for shep and I see no motive as to why she makes up things and tries to twist situations to get shep to say something at isn't true I really don't like her because of her methods, her unknown motives, and her disingenuous assertions.

Xen: She's shady, she wants world domination, and doesn't care about anyone's life but her own. I get the impression she'd kill her mom if it helped her in some way. She's definitely one to watch and if she says she'll do something take her seriously.

Harbinger: Ah yes sir smack talk.....really do I have to say more? I can't decide who's worse Conrad or him.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 26 mai 2011 - 03:20 .

[I-AM-KROGAN]

I am about to get flamed for this but....Legion.


I dont Hate him, he is just my least fav, It might be the fact that we didnt see him that much or something, i am also not a fan of Grunt, he will never be Wrex, hell or even Wreve.


But, i dont hate any squadie, but my favs are Jack, Samara, Mordin, Tali and Thane.

[Thepeak12]

JACOB. He is so boring, and his tone of voice just makes me annoyed. Those abs won't justify his bland appeal.

[Mufasa92]

Garrus, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS CHARACTER

But because he has nothing to say in ME2. I would have loved to know his character more but he just never wanted to talk

[SlottsMachine]

Golden Owl wrote...

I disagree....I play a manShep and don't romance her, but I still feel she's got his back.....But though I agree that she gives the feel of a fierce protector and would do anything for Shep, if you paragon her....I don't feel she has very good self control though and as such does remain a loose cannon....her intentions maybe good, but I think her hot, reactive temper could let her down.

I guess will just have to agree to disagree then. 

[Pax of Doom]

Hate is too strong a word.  Indifference or annoyance is better.

Miranda - She tries very hard to sell herself.  If she works so hard to sell, then what she's selling isn't worth buying.  Her powers are better done by others in the squad.  Not to mention her pretentiousness, as typified in her loyalty mission.

Jacob - He's bland.  He doesn't stand out in any way.  He's forgettable. 

TIM - Head of Cerberus, and could be considered their ideological leader.  He lies, knowingly puts people in harm's way.  There is something shifty about him, something fundamentally untrustworthy.

Grunt - I! Am! Krogan! = B! F! D! Contrast showing Wrex, and most citizens of Tuchanka, as thinking beings, and Grunt as being, basically, a bloodlusting meathead.