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adam1923 wrote...

maybe the other side of the citadel relay is in another galaxy...

I thought they clearly said that it was a link to dark space in ME1. Vigil again, right?

Modifié par Bomb In My Pants, 26 mai 2011 - 04:56 .


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The reapers are Alpha and Omega's galaxy wide vermin extermination support.

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Madman123456 wrote...

I built them. My bad...

The Origins of the Reapers are unknown, Bioware wants them to be this mysterious Enemy who's motives are unknown, so they have remained tightlipped about that.

In Mass Effect 2, the repurposed Husks that where the Protheans, the last species to get wiped out by the Reapers and now called "Collectors", where trying to build a Reaper that looks like a humanoid Robot thingy.
To do so, the melted quite a lot of humans down into a raw paste.
It is not known as to why they needed the materials we humans consist of or if they needed the material at all since that could be more easily mined or grown or otherwise acquired.

All we see is a big robot with tubes on it and we're told the humanjelly the collectors made is pumped into the robot and somehow this is how the robot is being built.

We can speculate that this is how the reapers procreate, they melt people down and build reapers out of the people paste. And maybe the reason they can't use other more easily acquired materials maybe that the minds of the people are somehow being converted into programs that run in the reaper.
We threw logic out a long time ago, why not add more BS.

Legion talks about many programs running inside a reaper, making each one a "nation".
So if you end up in a reaper, your being is converted to a program networked with millions of other programs inside a giant computer that looks like Seafood.

That's just speculation though, i hope bioware comes up with something better then this...



that actually sounds pretty good to me Posted Image

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I don't want to find out to be honest, the fun thing with mysterious enemies like reapers and enemies in games like assassins creed is not knowing much about them, and making theroies about what you think about them. Anyway I think it was something like the geth uprising and they upgraded themselves during the cycles.

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Bomb In My Pants wrote...

At the end of ME2, after you talk to TIM, and Shep gets the data pad from Joker, it shows the enire Reaper fleet.


The datapad looked like Reaper Schematics, not the entire fleet - that was a separate cutscene. The information on the pad was likely from the disabled reaper.

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I dunno where they came from. I do know where they're going, though. It's rather warm there all year around.....

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Bomb In My Pants wrote...

adam1923 wrote...

maybe the other side of the citadel relay is in another galaxy...

I thought they clearly said that it was a link to dark space in ME1. Vigil again, right?


I believe so. I think that they have some sort of structure they must dock to in dark spaces as well. 

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GenericPlayer2 wrote...

Bomb In My Pants wrote...

At the end of ME2, after you talk to TIM, and Shep gets the data pad from Joker, it shows the enire Reaper fleet.


The datapad looked like Reaper Schematics, not the entire fleet - that was a separate cutscene. The information on the pad was likely from the disabled reaper.



I think the reaper on the datapad was Harbinger and EDI probably got some info about Harbinger when she was mining the Collector base.

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Shepard gets turned into a Reaper, goes back in time and becomes the first Reaper. Because Mass Effect is missing a time travel related paradox.

Maybe we won't find out where they came from, they'll remain a mystery like the Borg.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Shepard gets turned into a Reaper, goes back in time and becomes the first Reaper. Because Mass Effect is missing a time travel related paradox.

Maybe we won't find out where they came from, they'll remain a mystery like the Borg.



To me the Borg felt cheapened after Voyager, as far as finding out about the Reapers origins I think that might be part of the key to defeating them,  I suspect we will find out alot more about them when we find a way into the sealed off sections of the citadel.

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I'm betting at the end of Mass Effect 3 we get to talk to the original Reaper.

He'll be made up of one of the first races who, to save the galaxy from complete annihilation, sacrificed themselves to create the ultimate peace keeper.

They saw their galaxy tearing itself apart after the races being around for so long. They knew complete and mutually assured destruction was well on its way, so they took action. They saved a select few species in Reaper form and wiped out the rest, beginning the cycle.

Perhaps they waited to see what the next batch would do, but when it came to about the same point in their galactic evolution the same thing happened. So the first Reapers set out and began a new age of culling the masses, saving only those who proved themselves worthy. Eventually their original mission became twisted along with their forms and they became the Reapers we fight today!

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Biotics made it to the golden planet, but their sins corrupted it and Boo the mystical space hamster cast them out to dark space, where they became the reapers.

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Sajuro wrote...

Biotics made it to the golden planet, but their sins corrupted it and Boo the mystical space hamster cast them out to dark space, where they became the reapers.

Oh when will those silly biotics learn you just can't play god. Hehehe

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Thats the big question, and it's a question that everyone has been avoiding (which will just make the reveal even more better.)

I think the plot has had us so focused on how to stop the reapers and what their plans are than of their origins...that scares me...anything awesome could happen.

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The reapers are extra-galactic beings if i had to guess who came from their own galaxy because they had used up all the resources

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I think that some super advanced race several million years ago built the reapers as dreadnaught to change the tide of the war they were fighting with another race. Sometime during the end of the war everthing went wrong; the reapers wiped out the enemies of their creators and turned on their parents and took complete control of the citadel and the mass relays.

I don't know about anyone else but I want to know everything about them; I don't want it to be a secret.

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I always thought their origins were similar to that of the Geth-built by some life form, and then overwhelmed and destroyed their creators.

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GenericPlayer2 wrote...

Bomb In My Pants wrote...

At the end of ME2, after you talk to TIM, and Shep gets the data pad from Joker, it shows the enire Reaper fleet.


The datapad looked like Reaper Schematics, not the entire fleet - that was a separate cutscene. The information on the pad was likely from the disabled reaper.

My bad- I meant to it to mean after you talk to TIM, and after you get the datapad... I could see why the I said it would be confusing though.

Modifié par Bomb In My Pants, 31 mai 2011 - 07:18 .


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BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I'm betting at the end of Mass Effect 3 we get to talk to the original Reaper.

He'll be made up of one of the first races who, to save the galaxy from complete annihilation, sacrificed themselves to create the ultimate peace keeper.

They saw their galaxy tearing itself apart after the races being around for so long. They knew complete and mutually assured destruction was well on its way, so they took action. They saved a select few species in Reaper form and wiped out the rest, beginning the cycle.

Perhaps they waited to see what the next batch would do, but when it came to about the same point in their galactic evolution the same thing happened. So the first Reapers set out and began a new age of culling the masses, saving only those who proved themselves worthy. Eventually their original mission became twisted along with their forms and they became the Reapers we fight today!


Anti-Spirals in mah Mass Effect?

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BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I'm betting at the end of Mass Effect 3 we get to talk to the original Reaper.

He'll be made up of one of the first races who, to save the galaxy from complete annihilation, sacrificed themselves to create the ultimate peace keeper.

They saw their galaxy tearing itself apart after the races being around for so long. They knew complete and mutually assured destruction was well on its way, so they took action. They saved a select few species in Reaper form and wiped out the rest, beginning the cycle.

Perhaps they waited to see what the next batch would do, but when it came to about the same point in their galactic evolution the same thing happened. So the first Reapers set out and began a new age of culling the masses, saving only those who proved themselves worthy. Eventually their original mission became twisted along with their forms and they became the Reapers we fight today!

I seriously doubt that the Reapers are wiping everybody out because they persieve (spelling) the other races as a threat. I think it probably will turn out to be something like what you said. They're actually trying to do something good, just in a bad way. That seems like the kind of thing that the writers would put in there.

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I had an interesting theory. We always assumed that the Reapers hibernated beyond the rim of the galactic spheres. But what if the Reapers actually travel the dark space between entire galaxies, always harvesting, and "doing rounds" so to speak? They just cycle between three or four galaxies, with the trips taking 8,000 years on average through the empty expanse of dark space.

The Reapers might not even be from this galaxy then. They might be from another galaxy entirely!

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BlackwindTheCommander wrote...

I'm betting at the end of Mass Effect 3 we get to talk to the original Reaper.

He'll be made up of one of the first races who, to save the galaxy from complete annihilation, sacrificed themselves to create the ultimate peace keeper.

They saw their galaxy tearing itself apart after the races being around for so long. They knew complete and mutually assured destruction was well on its way, so they took action. They saved a select few species in Reaper form and wiped out the rest, beginning the cycle.

Perhaps they waited to see what the next batch would do, but when it came to about the same point in their galactic evolution the same thing happened. So the first Reapers set out and began a new age of culling the masses, saving only those who proved themselves worthy. Eventually their original mission became twisted along with their forms and they became the Reapers we fight today!


I'm fine with this explanation. With advanced organic races using up so many resources, it would make sense for even a bio-synthetic race governed by logic to let life continue, by wiping out the galaxies main consumers.

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"Vigil (I think it was Vigil, or maybe Sovereign) said that the 50,000 year extinction process has happened many times, So I agree, somewhere at least in the millions. They'll probably make it billions just for the heck of it."

The Reaper wreck was disabled 37 million years ago. There are ruins of previous civilizations that are nothing more that husks due to weathering. That alone speaks of extreme age. It is conceivable that the Reapers have indeed been harvesting the galaxy for a billion or more years. Ultimately, this means that there are untold civilizations which have risen and been cast down and potentially millions of trillions of sentient beings destroyed.

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I tend to think the seed for Reaper is in the mass effect tech itself, some emerging property coupled with organics leads to a very dark place that may be worse than the Reapers themselves and it's really the Reapers than have mastered this tech in a way that wasn't ultimately self destructive.

I hope all that talk of essence was just them talking about converting minds into whatever sort of program that make up a Reapers mind.
I'll stop before this becomes fan fiction.

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Actually humans are the decedents of the Forerunners, and the Forerunners built the reapers