lolwut666 wrote...
I doubt omni-tools are holograms. Holograms can't be touched. There must be at least a pressure or heat detector to inform the device that you pressed one of its "buttons", which an hologram cannot have.
samurai crusade wrote...
As much as I love stealth and silencers.... Splinter Cell and Tenchu are two of my favorite games.... I don't see the point in Mass Effect. The advent of shielding makes a silencer useless because the moment the shield registers a "hit" and gets depleeted, your target is allerted to your presence. So a silencer would only work on an unshielded enemy or playing on casual.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Or you can just use a different type of weapon that ignores shields. Like a laser, or disruptor rounds.
No more need for that compensation for a small dick.
Da Mecca wrote...
Weapon mods didn't exist in ME2, in ME3 I reckon there will be silencers now.
Ship.wreck wrote...
jamesp81 wrote...
I don't get real excited about them either. They only truly suppress handguns, and the additiona of a suppressor to a handgun makes it exceptionally bulky. They're of limited utility on rifles, as a rifle will still generate enough noise to necessitate the use of hearing protection, even with a silencer in place.
Hearing protection? What are you talking about? We're not talking about a day at the damn range here...
Ship.wreck wrote...
As for the omni tools, I recall reading in the ME codex a general entry on computer technology that involved some kind of hologram interfaces with force feed back gloves. Optional force feed back inplants. I'd assume the omni tool works the same way.
The tech armor was a wierd addition. What is that? Whatever hapened to just shields and barrier? Although, I'd assume tech armor would just be enhanced shields. Anyway the idea of the lights being just an ON indicator I find extremely unlikely. You don't have a gigantic hologram that gives away your position for miles just to let you know the things on. You have a SMALL indicator light for that. The only reason to have those big bright lights would be if they WERE the shield.
samurai crusade wrote...
As much as I love stealth and silencers.... Splinter Cell and Tenchu are two of my favorite games.... I don't see the point in Mass Effect. The advent of shielding makes a silencer useless because the moment the shield registers a "hit" and gets depleeted, your target is allerted to your presence. So a silencer would only work on an unshielded enemy or playing on casual.
Ship.wreck wrote...
samurai crusade wrote...
As much as I love stealth and silencers.... Splinter Cell and Tenchu are two of my favorite games.... I don't see the point in Mass Effect. The advent of shielding makes a silencer useless because the moment the shield registers a "hit" and gets depleeted, your target is allerted to your presence. So a silencer would only work on an unshielded enemy or playing on casual.
NEGATIVE
All the shield means is that a weapon must be powerful enough to break the sheild and kill the target quickly enough to prevent them from raising an alarm.
Widow?
Almost any Sniper riffle in ME with HE rounds?
Perfect.
We have body armor today, it doesn't make supressors useless. As I mentioned before stealth is such a fundemental part of combat it's never going to change. Stealth will ALWAYS give the operator an edge. Therefore stealth will ALWAYS play a role in combat tactics.
jamesp81 wrote...
The poster I replied to stated personal reasons for not getting excited about them. I added my own reasons. Reading comprehension remains fundamental.
A suppressor is of value on a rifle, but it's utility is somewhat limited. The enemy is still going to know they're under attack; but they may not know the direction it's coming from. That's worthwhile in and of itself, but it's not as if Shepard is going to sneak in some place, Thane style, and shoot some badguy without the guards out front not knowing about it. Unless space magic is used, of course.
jamesp81 wrote...
Right, because I'm sure a suppressor would really silence a piece of light field artillery like the Widow.
jamesp81 wrote...
Right, because I'm sure a suppressor would really silence a piece of light field artillery like the Widow.
Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 27 mai 2011 - 04:06 .
Modifié par 88mphSlayer, 27 mai 2011 - 05:43 .
88mphSlayer wrote...
it doesn't really matter if you can't penetrate shields, a pistol with silencer isn't going to penetrate body armor IRL either
the point is masking the person shooting
Modifié par Ship.wreck , 27 mai 2011 - 06:47 .
AlexMBrennan wrote...
The .50 cal can be used with a suppressor.Also, suppressor for artillery (if this unrelatedtvtropes pageis accurate)it isn't
Regarding tech armour again: Surely there will always be scenarios where stealth is not an option (e.g. start of Archangel mission - you need to cross open ground where the enemy know exactly where you are already) - cf ballistic shields.
I quite agree - although that applies to most gear you get (omni tool glow allows enemy snipers to pick off engineers, various glowing weapon attachment points glow as well). However, I don't think it's necessarily always unsuitable - if a soldier needs to survive 5s of hostile fire then a shield that will survive that long would be helpful even if the only suitable shield is as stealthy as a neon sign (you can always leave it switched off if such a situation does not arise).They just put it in and made it look like that because they thought it looked "cool" and "sci-fi-y"
Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 27 mai 2011 - 07:07 .
AlexMBrennan wrote...
I quite agree - although that applies to most gear you get (omni tool glow allows enemy snipers to pick off engineers, various glowing weapon attachment points glow as well). However, I don't think it's necessarily always unsuitable - if a soldier needs to survive 5s of hostile fire then a shield that will survive that long would be helpful even if the only suitable shield is as stealthy as a neon sign (you can always leave it switched off if such a situation does not arise).
raist747 wrote...
Because you can't pull off a Hollywood Silencer with a supersonic round. A silencer will weaken the shock wave, but especially indoors, everyone in the building nearby would hear it and know it was a gunshot.
And if Thane was using sub-sonic rounds, i doubt they'd have the kinetic force to penetrate shielding.
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In the novels, it is explained that sheilds don't stop point blank shotsShip.wreck wrote...
samurai crusade wrote...
As much as I love stealth and silencers.... Splinter Cell and Tenchu are two of my favorite games.... I don't see the point in Mass Effect. The advent of shielding makes a silencer useless because the moment the shield registers a "hit" and gets depleeted, your target is allerted to your presence. So a silencer would only work on an unshielded enemy or playing on casual.
NEGATIVE
All the shield means is that a weapon must be powerful enough to break the sheild and kill the target quickly enough to prevent them from raising an alarm.
Widow?
Almost any Sniper riffle in ME with HE rounds?
Perfect.
We have body armor today, it doesn't make supressors useless. As I mentioned before stealth is such a fundemental part of combat it's never going to change. Stealth will ALWAYS give the operator an edge. Therefore stealth will ALWAYS play a role in combat tactics.
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I never claimed that i did, im just saying that writers have a lore-based reason to not include them.lolwut666 wrote...
I like how some people here think they know more about ME's technology than the writers themselves.
If they want silencers, I'm sure they can find an excuse to include them.
It's foolish to try to apply real-life concepts to a fictional universe that only mimicks real-life loosely at best.
But then you don't need to use sub sonic rounds to be stealthy. Hollywood is a very poor benchmark to judge... anything by. Least of all combat of any sort.
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