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Ten years, same clothes, no kids?


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#26
sonoko

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I was more bothered by the fact that city changed so little during the game. There could be new shops opened or already exiting ones could change their place, new areas could be added to the city, etc. Alas, wasted potential.

As for character faces - yes, it's a pity they don't change over the years, but nevertheless Bioware designers made such a great job with companions' look: each face is a perfect reflection of character's personality. Still I'm waiting for the toolset to try and make aging head morphs for companions. I've already made the aging morphs mod for Bethany and Carver (it's on dragonagenexus) but currently you have manually copy files into your override folder (I'm writing a utility which will simplify this process).

As for kids - please, no!!! Not for the protagonist at least. Otherwise the game will turn into a child care simulator.

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The only things that change in 7 years is some (only some) of the NPCs' dialogue, the statue of the defeated Qunari, and that the boxes of torn trousers replenish. That's incredibly lazy programming. It's far less than what I expect for sixty dollars. If you want to rush a game to market fine, but don't ask me to pay full price for a rushed game that you require fans to finish for you.

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It's called "Fable syndrome" lol. As others have said, sure, it'd be nice to see the NPCs change. But dont count on it actually happening anytime soon.

Modifié par Aradace, 28 mai 2011 - 02:20 .


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It's funny, with my last two Hawkes, I intentionally designed them so that I could change their hairstyles, makeup/facial hair to show the passage of time. I also planned their responses to reflect the passage of time too. Sheridan Hawke, my avatar boy, started out with the "Carver" hairstyle with no sideburns, then in Act 2 he got the "Seneschal Bran" hairstyle with sideburns. In the third act, he got two hairstyle variations, first the one with the hair parted down the middle, with loose tendrils, with the same nape section as the previous hairstyle, and ultimately the "Sebastian" hairstyle, as shown. I also tried to vary his armor from Act to Act. From a conversation perspective, he started out as very Diplomatic and timid personality in Act 1, but by the time Act 2 rolled around he was much more Humorous/Charming, mainly due to Isabela's influence (his LI). After "All That Remains" he became harder, even Aggressive in certain circumstances. It was fun to roleplay all that.

As for kids in the game—no. Do. Not. Want. Unless there's a gameplay option to turn them off. Children should be seen and not heard. :P

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 I am sure they would have included it if they had the time... Tales of rushed development, nothing more.

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What in particular would the optional potential for having a child add to the game? It wouldn't add much in the form of gameplay, and if it did, it would have to be forced. There is nothing about rushed games here, it is all about wether or not it is actually worth it, to spend manhours developing and putting it into the game. It wasn't.

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highcastle wrote...
As for kids...you realize not everyone wants kids, right? If you don't, well... *raises hand* And there were compelling reasons for just about everyone not to have them. Izzy may be infertile, Fenris is too obsessed with remaining ahead of Denarius to think about children (he can't even think about commitment for 6 years), Anders has his cause, Merill has her mirror, Varric and Bianca can't actually spawn as far as I know. Of them all, it would only possibly make sense for Aveline to start a family with Donnic eventually, but at the present I see her more focused on her career.

*raises hand too*

I'm 30 years old and want to have kids in a game just as much as in real life, which is to say not at all. I totally agree this is not the Sims and even if people were adamant it should be in there for some reason or other I can't fathom, you should at least have the option not to. 

Aveline... yes, perhaps, but with their dangerous line of work I always figured her as being too responsible to possibly create another orphan. And Isabela might take her precautions, she seems smart enough, with her, uh,  lifestyle :)

Plus I can think of more epic things to do in a Dragon Age setting than whelp. Many of them imvolving fireballs, sharp objects and saving people *nod*

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I will say this though.
It would have been cool to see how I could effect the outcome of a kid I met to where years later when he grows up, he either plots against me or secretly aids me.

Modifié par fightright2, 28 mai 2011 - 10:02 .


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Knight of Dane

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And I will say it once again!

Dragon Age X Harvest Moon!

Lets make our own crops and bake a cake, then take it to Merrill and gain heart points!
Eventually we marry and have kids!

Oh, i forgot i play as a female character, forget the kids, give us marriage though! Image IPB

Honestly though I'm not sure it would fit, though now that bioware has experimented with long term relationships and family i wouldn't be insultet by including optional marriage, it would actually be interesting! Image IPB

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I also wouldn't mind the idea of mentoring someone younger because they remind me of a sibling that I lost that I can either influence to accompany me or move up in the world because I don't want them doing what I do.

I'd rather have this than having kids of my own.

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I will say this though.
It would have been cool to see how I could effect the outcome of a kid I met to where years later when he grows up, he either plots against me or secretly aids me.


I am not expecting Bioware to make Harvest Moon or Sims or some other sappy game where you play house. I would just like to see someone age maybe seven or ten years. Perhaps either becoming a Companion in one of the later acts, or somehow influencing him/her.

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Hell no to kids. This isn't the Sims. I'm an intentionally childless woman and I have no interest in spawning, really or virtually (much like BlueMew).
Besides, all but one of my Hawkes are gay.

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Sinophile

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Besides, all but one of my Hawkes are gay.

You and Anders could adopt a war orphan. If Anders likes providing free healthcare, why can't he run an orphanage while he is at it?

What in particular would the optional potential for having a child add to the game? It wouldn't add much in the form of gameplay, and if it did, it would have to be forced

Neither does having siblings or parents. It'd be more for storyline than for gameplay, much like sexual relationships. What about all these thieves and whatnot whom I brutally slaughter all day long, certainly one of them will omeday want revenge. Or wat about that one kid to whom I gave 10 sovereigns of Athenril's money? WOuld be remember me in 7 years when he becomes a young, successful merchant?

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Sinophile wrote...

I will say this though.
It would have been cool to see how I could effect the outcome of a kid I met to where years later when he grows up, he either plots against me or secretly aids me.


I am not expecting Bioware to make Harvest Moon or Sims or some other sappy game where you play house. I would just like to see someone age maybe seven or ten years. Perhaps either becoming a Companion in one of the later acts, or somehow influencing him/her.



I agree.

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Same clothes? It's mostly combat outfits, they wear. I like to think, that we're seeing the game through Cassandra's imagination. (she has a big gore fetish, apparently LOL!).

No kids? In the real world, most people had kids like rabbits from very young ages (this changed in the last century).
Wynn said that mages have magic birth control, maybe they sell that, along with everything else the Formari sell to finance the Circles of Magi? (of course, this is fan-******)...

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sgs1999 wrote...

Darker_than_black wrote...
The same annoying idiots in the Vicount's keep complaining that they have been wating all day to get in to his office. If you've waited for three years to see the Vicount he must be incredibly busy and you must be incredibly stupid (and patient).


Not helped either by the fact that this guy was still waiting for the viscount THREE years after he was rather publicly beheaded... one would think that he would have heard by now?

He's the ancestor of both the guy waiting to see Aria on Omega and the Refund Guy

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New clothes would have been nice come to think of it... 0_0

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CalJones wrote...

Hell no to kids. This isn't the Sims. I'm an intentionally childless woman and I have no interest in spawning, really or virtually (much like BlueMew).

*nod*

And no adopting war orphans either. Yuk. Really, is it that hard to understand that in my computer games I'd rather have my hero waving swords, throwing big balls of fire and saving the world before lunchtime than taking care of kids? No Tamagotchi Age please.

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Can you imagine how messed up the children of our party members would be? Merrils kid would obsessively stare at every mirror they passed. Isabellas child would most likely be the da equivalent of a crack baby. Sebastions kid would grow up in the chantry and would probably quote the chant of light under his breath 24/7. Anders...can abominations have children? He might have little baby arcane horrors I guess. Fenris would probably murder his kid the first time he got angry, and avelines kid would be the worst of all...a Ginger. Obviously varrics son would be born with chest hair and holding a crossbow though.

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JustinS1985 wrote...

Can you imagine how messed up the children of our party members would be? Merrils kid would obsessively stare at every mirror they passed. Isabellas child would most likely be the da equivalent of a crack baby. Sebastions kid would grow up in the chantry and would probably quote the chant of light under his breath 24/7. Anders...can abominations have children? He might have little baby arcane horrors I guess. Fenris would probably murder his kid the first time he got angry, and avelines kid would be the worst of all...a Ginger. Obviously varrics son would be born with chest hair and holding a crossbow though.

You forgot Hawke, any of Hawke's children would probably die horrifically within a few years, just like the rest of Hawke's family.
And Varric may very well have a half dwarf half crossbow abomination.

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Doesn't anyone think that Kirkwall is kind of an... unstable place to be raising a child? One that may or may not end up being a mage?

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JustinS1985 wrote...
Obviously varrics son would be born with chest hair and holding a crossbow though.


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Great. Now I have a mental image of Bianca being PREGNANT. One of us should be ashamed of that, I just don't know who...

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Lord Aesir wrote...

Doesn't anyone think that Kirkwall is kind of an... unstable place to be raising a child? One that may or may not end up being a mage?


So is Compton California, but life happens.

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I fail to see why so many are against the existence of the option to have children over a course of 10 years.
I myself in RL hate children and have no intentions of having any, however some of the characters that I roleplay would be the type to have children and so having them able to would add depth to the character (much in the same way the romances already do)

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GodWood wrote...

I fail to see why so many are against the existence of the option to have children over a course of 10 years.
I myself in RL hate children and have no intentions of having any, however some of the characters that I roleplay would be the type to have children and so having them able to would add depth to the character (much in the same way the romances already do)

Because it would require a lot of work that could better be put to use elsewhere in the game? Proper Origins choices carrying over for instance...