Morrigan ending.. could have been much better.
#1
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 10:52
I romanced Morrigan and agreed with her ritual. Well, the ending was.. bleh, to be honest. I realize you want to keep the veil of mistery, but just disappearing and leaving it at that was really stupid as far as I'm concerned.
You guys, opinions?
#2
Posté 20 novembre 2009 - 06:16
Skellimancer wrote...
Writers are emo.
At least you lived after the ending.
Thanks for no real choices, Gaider.
You're welcome.
It is, after all, the very least I could do in return for being second-guessed by a bunch of pouters.
#3
Posté 20 novembre 2009 - 08:31
Akka le Vil wrote...
- The whole "it was my plan from the start". As others said, it really sounded "WTF ?", but not in a "what a twist !" way, rather in a "wow, that really doesn't make a lot of sense". The girl didn't even attempt to be social and was even downright vindicative, toward you and even more toward Alistair, while her whole plan was based upon convincing one of you to bed her.Not really efficient nor convincing (and just think how funny it would have been to see Morrigan trying - and failing - at being nice).
I'd be careful with the assumptions. Her plan (or Flemeth's plan, if you prefer) was to convince ANY Grey Warden to perform the ritual prior to the final battle. It doesn't have to be you or Alistair, and there's no way she could have known that the confrontation would come so soon -- unless you'd really prefer to think that her ideal plan was to make that kind of last-minute hard sell. Clearly she saw an opportunity and she took it, making the best out of a bad situation (especially if neither Alistair/Loghain or the PC were her biggest fans).
Or maybe Flemeth did know it would come down like that. Hard to say.
- The Mary Sue Syndrom when you are angry and she smug you "ahah screw you" and leave. Seriously. It was a /wallbang moment. I hope I don't have to explain why.
It seems it's become very common for people to invoke the "Mary Sue" comment when they simply wish to bash a character they don't like or don't understand. I don't think Morrigan fits your standard Mary Sue build, and certainly I don't see her as a projection of myself in the slightest. If you prefer to think of her as wielding the Plot Hammer, that's up to you, but that's not the same thing as being a Mary Sue, either.
Insofar as Morrigan leaving when she's in love with the player, I'll say this: Morrigan says right from the get go that she sees love as a weakness. Then she falls in love with you. Did it tempt her to sway from her mission? No doubt it did -- and that would have frightened her more than anything else, don't you think? It is possible to do what you have to do even when love is on the line. People who believe otherwise are, I think, being a little too romantic. And this is why Morrigan told you from the beginning that it wasn't going to work like you thought it would. She didn't want to get close, maybe even resented the fact that she was being sent for that very purpose -- especially when it went against her very nature. Whether you think she acted like she did because of or despite that is up to you.
As for the rest of the speculation, I'll leave that up to you all.
#4
Posté 20 novembre 2009 - 08:40
I'm not sure why some people assume that Morrigan's tale MUST be central and definitive. It could be, but the certainty some people express is sort of like how some people are absolutely certain they know where a movie is going half-way through (or five minutes in). They might very well be right, but the Morrigan fans should be aware that their version of the tale is hardly definitive.nub5 wrote...
Can you be sure about this? Perhaps she is integral to the Dragon Age storyline which is to span 3 games.
#5
Posté 20 novembre 2009 - 08:43
A man on a mission doesn't have to be handed that mission from someone in authority. It could just be something you really think you have to do. Why Morrigan might have thought it was so important she didn't really say, did she? Or perhaps she did, if you were listening. Sometimes duty is doing what you're told and sometimes it's doing what you think because you honestly believe it's important.T1l wrote...
Interesting. Even David mentions the concept of "mission". "Duty". "Mission". Who or what is this higher authority Morrigan has to answer to, exactly, other than herself? Where's the accountability? With Flemmeth out of the way, Morrigans hand isn't being forced by anyone other than herself.
#6
Posté 20 novembre 2009 - 09:48
Indeed. I'll point out, as well, that while we *could* have allowed you the option of attacking Morrigan, do you really think you would just one-shot her and that would be it? Even if you wounded her she would just change into an animal and be out of there. The original cinematics had her changing into a bird and flying out the window. I can still hear you going "But but but--" and I get it. You wanted to kill her. But trying to say that just because we wanted to we should have allowed it, and that by not allowing it we've broken some kind of... what? Call it Plot Armor if you must, that's just how it was going down.sylkwyrm1 wrote...
if she was your friend she was trying to save you, if she was not your firend then you won by refusing, her plans came to naught she departs defeated, despite her smug grin
I find it interesting that someone comments it's all about Morrigan walking by you in that scene. Technically speaking it's the cinematics people who did that, because they felt it made her exit more dramatic. But because you didn't get to spit at her or whatever it removes all agency from the entire encounter? An interesting view, and something to consider, I guess.





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