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[DragonAgeAddict]

Hello, I was wondering if a cleric OR paladin dual wield build would be viable for the OC, then on to MoTB.

I would prefer to play a dwarf or aasimar, for RP reasons, but any race would be fine if it could play at least decent.

Anyones opinion is appreciated, bad or good. Thank you.

[Arkalezth]

Yes, it's viable, but for the OCs, I'd go with a high STR and stop at Greater Two Weapon Fighting (not Perfect). I saw a build once with these things...

Edit: ...but it got deleted apparently. I can't find it.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 26 mai 2011 - 11:59 .

[DragonOfWhiteThunder]

I built a (human) lady warrior dual-wielding Greatswords (Monkey Grip) so just about anything that isn't an even split multiclass is pretty viable.

However, Two-Weapon Fighting requires a massive investment in both ability scores and feats - you only get 7 feats (8 if human) before level 20, and TWF takes three of them. You also need a natural Dex of 15 for TWF, 17 for Improved TWF, and 19 for Greater TWF. If you want Perfect TWF, you need 25 Dex.

If I were to build a Paladin TWFer, I'd take a couple levels of fighter for the bonus feats. For example, going Fighter 1, Paladin 1-5 and then Fighter 2 gives you full BAB and the d10 hit die, Improved TWF by Level 7, and as long as you qualify for it, Divine Might as well. If I were really to try to twink it out though, I'd probably do something like this.

[DragonAgeAddict]

Thanks, Dragon and Ark, your advice helped a lot.

Im still wondering about the cleric dual wielder though, thats really what i was going for.
Any additional information would be much appreciated. (:

[Haplose]

Well, Rangers get Dual-Wielding feats for free, as long as they are wearing Light Armor. So that might be the way to go - and still get the overpowered Epic Divine Might from Paladin or even Cleric.

[DragonAgeAddict]

Okay i see what your saying.
Just a question, don't clerics have to take a domain to get Divine Might like paladins? Or am i mistaken?
Also, would a build like this: http://nwn2.wikia.co...(17),M(11),F(2) work out well for the campaigns?

Modifié par DragonAgeAddict, 05 juin 2011 - 04:15 .

[Arkalezth]

You're confusing it with Smite Evil/Infidel.

I can't see that build, but with those classes, I'm guessing it's DEX based with low STR, right? If so, it may have damage problems, so you'll need high damaging elemental weapons if you want to hurt anyone.

[DragonAgeAddict]

Oh, Okay. Thank you for correcting my error.
I can't find much divine dual wielding builds besides the Divine Twinkblade, (Thank you DragonofWhiteThunder)
With that in mind, are there any high damaging dual wield builds besides the STR based ranger?

[Arkalezth]

Well, Ranger is the logical choice for a STR based dual-wielder. If you want full Cleric spellcasting and DW, I'd take just enough DEX (19) for Greater TWF, just enough WIS to cast all spells (19, too, though you can leave it lower and use +WIS items), and put the rest into STR. If you can avoid multiclassing penalties, Wood Elf is a good race. Aasimar can probably work too.

[DragonAgeAddict]

Well, would it be possible to multiclass a cleric/ranger to get the bonuses of 2 weapon fighting and still have some cleric spell abilities?
Considering rangers dont need dexterity to get 2 weapon fighting, i could pump points into strength, (And maybe a bit of wisdom if needed) until.. perhaps GTWF, then switch to cleric levels from there?

Modifié par DragonAgeAddict, 06 juin 2011 - 11:21 .

[Arkalezth]

Yes, but you'd have to use light armor so decent DEX (14 or so) is still advisable. With 11 Ranger (GTWF) you could still get 9th level spells. You'd be vulnerable to Greater Dispel, but that's not too much of a concern in the OCs.

So you could do something like Ranger 11/Cleric 17. The remaining two levels may be spent on those classes or on others. You could take less Cleric and pick a PrC with casting progression, but the available ones aren't very good for a dual-wielder, so Cleric 17 should be better.

Edit: The problem with this kind of build is that either the casting progression or the DW feats must be delayed, so you have to think if that's worth the DEX points.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 06 juin 2011 - 11:41 .

[Arkalezth]

See: http://nwn2db.com/bu...64711&version=1

I kept it simple. The end result is ok, but the spellcasting progression is very slow. You could leave 6-11 Ranger for later, but then GTWF would be delayed. It's probably a better option, though.

[Giantevilhead]

Go with a couple of levels in Monk. Maybe 2 Monk/2 Fighter/16 Paladin. Start with something like STR 14 DEX 14 CON 14 INT 10 WIS 16 CHA 16. Put all your attributes in DEX. Get Divine Might and Divine Shield.

With a Cleric, you can go with something like STR 8 DEX 16 CON 14 INT 14 WIS 18 CHA 10 with the Air domain for uncanny dodge.

Modifié par Giantevilhead, 15 juin 2011 - 03:21 .