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TonyTheBossDanza123

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 So Since I was one of the many who waited for reviews to buy DA2, and consequently DIDN'T buy DA2, I'm going to address this here. I'm sure it's been said in the official thread, but as someone who loved DAO with a passion, one of the few games this generation I've played through multiple times: Too Little, Too Late.

For months, people on the forums voiced complaints, warned Bioware about the direction they were taking DA2. Quite bluntly, we were told to shove it. We got posts like Gaider's "Stages of A Dragon Age Fan", comparing our fear and anger to that of the stages of Grief. We got other posts saying that "Since we didn't play it yet, we couldn't judge".

Even more so, we got posts insisting that this game was in development long before DAO was released, and that it was NOT EA pushing Bioware to rush out a sequel to work with the whole "New Entry Each Year" that EA and Activision follow.

Then the game came out. With critic reviews that average a near 10 points below the original , and user reviews that are drastically lower, our fears were confirmed. The final nail in the coffin came from inside Bioware itself, confirming that our greatest fear was realized: DA2 was rushed out at the beck and call of EA. 

To end this ramble, my point is this: When you start releasing info about future games, don't look down your nose at your forum goers. Don't tell them that since they haven't played the game, their critiques are unwarranted. Don't post charts and insist that people are overreacting.

#2
John Epler

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v_ware wrote...

This is soooooooooo getting locked.

"No constructive topic"

"Confirmation bias bla bla blaah"

"Please post your concerns in the original thread"

"Spam"

WELL BITE ME.

Having said that, I agree with the OP.


Yes, tell the mods 'BITE ME'. That's both constructive and civil.

Not locking this thread. I see nothing wrong with giving people in this forum a place to discuss Mike's post.

#3
John Epler

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Let's try and avoid the unnecessarily confrontational tone in the posts. That goes for people on both sides of the fence.

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John Epler

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Everything in the computing world is based on mathamatics even the art from position of the pixels or polygons and vectors, number of pixels, polygons and vectors and colour codes made up of percentile figures from each colour tone. Just because it's behind the scenes and not visable when creating doesn't make it less true.


I've stayed out of this thread for the most part, but I do have to take issue with this point. Whether everything 'behind the scenes' is math, that doesn't shift the visual side of things into the same arena.  For writing, cinematic design and art (whether animation, modelling, whichever particular sub-discipline you'd like to use), much of what is being done is based on gut feeling. Certainly, we use software and programming to allow for its visual representation, but aside from ensuring that things are technically sound, the vast majority of my job falls more towards the artistic side of things than it does the technical. If all I had was a technical understanding of how content was created, I doubt I'd be able to do my job to any appropriate standard.

And even within programming and scripting, there's a lot of creativity. The best programmers are those who can approach a problem in a creative fashion and solve it in that same fashion. Just because it deals with math and logic, doesn't mean it can't be creative. There's far more right brain than left brain in my particular field of work, and while the left brain is more dominant in other disciplines, that doesn't mean the right brain goes unused. Far from it.

Though I admit that I'm not entirely clear what point you were making, so I may be arguing against a point you didn't even try to make. In which case, ignore this :P

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Stanley Woo

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This is a reminder to please keep your comment and arguments directed at the posts of your fellow community members, and not AT the community members themselves. Thank you.

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John Epler

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And at this point, I think this thread has reached the end of its useful life, as there doesn't seem to be much discussion happening anymore.

Locking.