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[Centauri2002]

AshiraShepard wrote...

Girl on Girl is Hot.

Man on Man is Ew.

Aren't double standards just hilarious?

Well, personally, I find m/m and m/f pretty "bleh" too but I'm not going to stop someone else from playing that in their games. 

[Comsky159]

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

[Ashira Shepard]

centauri2002 wrote...
Well, personally, I find m/m and m/f pretty "bleh" too but I'm not going to stop someone else from playing that in their games. 

Het Is Ew.

But yeah, I pretty much agree with you. I don't want to restrict someone else just because I'm uncomfortable with it.

I'm not going to pursue a straight romance, I won't look for the content online, I won't bother other people about if they're having straight romances unless I deliberately ask out of curiosity "oh, who'd you romance" and then just move on with my life.

Are our lives short enough without spending time on sh!t like this? Spend it on what you like; you won't get the time back.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 28 mai 2011 - 02:11 .

[marshalleck]

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Bioware should just stop doing romances. People take this **** waaay too seriously. 

[Crimmsonwind]

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Come on, man. It's not an "agenda."

[AngelicMachinery]

marshalleck wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Bioware should just stop doing romances. People take this **** waaay too seriously. 

I wouldn't mind the removal of romances entirely as long as they beefed up party dialogue a bit.  As is though,  I think the inclusion of it means it should well be inclusive...

[Centauri2002]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Come on, man. It's not an "agenda."

Oh dear, that didn't take very long to happen, did it? I have a personal rule: I safely eject myself from a thread or conversation when someone mentions the words "homosexual agenda", or "gay agenda" in this case. It always, always goes downhill after that point.

Have fun with the remainder of the thread, folks. Before the lock, that is. 

Oh, and be nice to one another!

[Erani]

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

It's a conspiracy! 
I iz afraid ov teh gay agenda.

P.S: Would any Mod please close this already?

Modifié par Erani, 28 mai 2011 - 02:17 .

[Ashira Shepard]

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Right, because it's totally an agenda since we want to poison all the characters and want to ruin your games.

It's not because we're gamers who happen to like the same gender and that we're human and want to be able to do the same as you guys, but in our own way of course.

I just want to find a suitable girl for my Soldier Girl; you can have your straight LIs.

[Ryzaki]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Bioware should just stop doing romances. People take this **** waaay too seriously. 

I wouldn't mind the removal of romances entirely as long as they beefed up party dialogue a bit.  As is though,  I think the inclusion of it means it should well be inclusive...

...Neither would I. 

If there was actual friendship paths in ME I wouldn't mind no romances at all. As it is the friendship paths are made of utter fail. <_< And the game seems to go "why aren't you romancing someone?" during the endgame scenes. Shepard can't even get a friendship scene instead of some nookie. Nope. Too hard. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 mai 2011 - 02:16 .

[Crimmsonwind]

I just want to be able to talk to my squad as a friend. It's like the only options were "do me now please" or "I should go."

[marshalleck]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Bioware should just stop doing romances. People take this **** waaay too seriously. 

I wouldn't mind the removal of romances entirely as long as they beefed up party dialogue a bit.  As is though,  I think the inclusion of it means it should well be inclusive...

I agree it should be inclusive if they're going to do it. But I am sick of natural interaction with characters taking a backseat to forced, shallow, and insipid "romance" subplots that usually amount to nothing more than say something nice four time, **** the NPC in question (while wearing ugly granny panties or even fully clothed, since Bioware is afraid of having sex featured in sex scenes), unlock achievement, the end. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 28 mai 2011 - 02:19 .

[Ashira Shepard]

I'll just leave this here for now...

[Siansonea]

marshalleck wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

As long as I don't have to deal with it in my game and they don't butcher any characters for the sake of the gay agenda then I'm fine with it.

I am wary of Bioware in this area ever since the gay agenda ruined DA2 romance for me by branding almost every character.

Bioware should just stop doing romances. People take this **** waaay too seriously. 

I wouldn't mind the removal of romances entirely as long as they beefed up party dialogue a bit.  As is though,  I think the inclusion of it means it should well be inclusive...

I agree it should be inclusive if they're going to do it. But I am sick of natural interaction with characters taking a backseat to forced, shallow, and insipid "romance" subplots that usually amount to nothing more than say something nice four time, **** the NPC in question (while wearing ugly granny panties or even fully clothed, since Bioware is afraid of having sex featured in sex scenes), unlock achievement, the end. 

I wasn't too jazzed with the ME2 romances either, especially the Tali, Garrus and Thane romances. I have to facepalm every time I see them. The idea of Shepard of either gender getting busy with dextro-chiral aliens like Garrus and Tali is just mind-bogglingly silly. They can't share food, but they're somehow going to do some kind of sex thing? And who knows what kind of naughty bits those critters have. Thane at least is levo-chiral, but he's still the Creature From The Black Lagoon. Asari romance is the only alien romance that makes any sense to me.

Note, however, that I don't actually want to remove alien romance options from the game. People like them. I don't. They can have them if it makes them happy.

I DO want real friendship dialogue for all the characters (or rival dialogue, actually). I think some characters should hate Shepard's guts if Shep is too goody-goody (Zaeed, Grunt, Jack) and some should dislike Renedouche Shepard (Samara, Kaidan, Liara, Jacob). I'd even like for Joker and Dr. Chakwas to take a stand one way or the other, based on Shepard's behavior.

[AngelicMachinery]

marshalleck wrote...
 I agree it should be inclusive if they're going to do it. But I am sick of natural interaction with characters taking a backseat to forced, shallow, and insipid "romance" subplots that usually amount to nothing more than say something nice four time, **** the NPC in question (while wearing ugly granny panties or even fully clothed, since Bioware is afraid of having sex featured in sex scenes), unlock achievement, the end. 

Uncanny Valley sex just gives me nightmares... 

[marshalleck]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
 I agree it should be inclusive if they're going to do it. But I am sick of natural interaction with characters taking a backseat to forced, shallow, and insipid "romance" subplots that usually amount to nothing more than say something nice four time, **** the NPC in question (while wearing ugly granny panties or even fully clothed, since Bioware is afraid of having sex featured in sex scenes), unlock achievement, the end. 

Uncanny Valley sex just gives me nightmares... 

ME1's scene was just fine. I don't know why Bioware are so terrified of it. 

[IndigoWolfe]

I have nothing to add to either this discussion or in response to the OP.

But what I did do was right after I finished reading the OP, the first thing I did was I went and looked at his profile page.

[Mudzr]

Arggggh I know I should probably ignore this thread but I don't get why s/s romances is such a big issue.
Here's why it isn't:

*It doesn't have to effect you in any way. And no, to reference the OP's example, I don't consider a pitiful gain of rivarlypoints a big issue whatsoever. I could go on about this, but i'll keep it short and swee: rivarlly points are not a bad thing, and there is a clear case of double standards happening here (to clarify, would you care if Anders was female?). Plus he does the same thing if Hawke is a women, and yet I don't see any female players at all having a problem with it, i'm sure there are some but they seem to be alot less vocal about it.
And if it's like ME2 where conversations will be cut off if you don't romance them, as annoying as it is, it will happen regaurdless of whether same sex content is included or not (as ME2 shows).

* About the whole "all guys on the ship hitting on you" fear, as seen in the below quote:

Chilcek wrote...

Are they gonna do this with ME3? When you are a male, and you find out that most of the male party members are attracted to you? That just a big turn off...... 

Ok, not going to go too far in to this, but again, double standards. Relationships don't magically happen, someone has to make the first move. This applies to both hetro and s/s relationships. It doesn't have to be  a "turnoff", I mean you're not gay/ bi, so why would it be? Just say no and move on. Or do what I do and take it as a compliment. Girls get hit on all the time by men they have no interested in being with and there really is no big deal about it.

*Finally, if a large amount of bisexuals being on your ship (because let's face it, have designated s/s squadmates is going to generate uproar anyway) seems unrealistic, well firstly, it isn't really that unrealistic, expecially in a time where pansexuality seems to be fully accepted. But secondly, having an absurd amount of women attracted to Shep is already unrealistic, it would be actually more plausable, that if Shep is some sort of people (and alien) magnet, then he is going to attract people of all genders and species. Also, if we are willing to suspend our belivability already in this science fiction setting, why not in this case?

Also, I have seen people saying things like "gays hardly ever get discriminated against", etc. in this forums. Please stop. I am not going to bring up real world politics here, but if you have beliefs like this, you really need to do some research before posting such comments. Otherwise don't complain if people call you niave and homophobic. Homophobia comes in many forms, and rather then complaining about being called homophobia, you might want to consider that while that word gets thrown around alot, the people here are mature and understanding enough that they could be right, and that you may want to look into what you are saying to avoid offending people in the future.
I'm not gay and this opposition against s/s relationships in ME (albiet the OP is one of the more mature posters in camparison to what I have seen) is understanding in some parts but mostly disheaterning and a little scary, and quite frankly ruining the feel of these forums. Can't we just let a few more people feel included in the ME universe?

[AngelicMachinery]

marshalleck wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
 I agree it should be inclusive if they're going to do it. But I am sick of natural interaction with characters taking a backseat to forced, shallow, and insipid "romance" subplots that usually amount to nothing more than say something nice four time, **** the NPC in question (while wearing ugly granny panties or even fully clothed, since Bioware is afraid of having sex featured in sex scenes), unlock achievement, the end. 

Uncanny Valley sex just gives me nightmares... 

ME1's scene was just fine. I don't know why Bioware are so terrified of it. 

I suppose,  for some reason I just haven't quite wrapped my head around sex in video games yet,  sex appeal yes... but full blown coitus not so much.  Which I must admit is kind of odd as I don't have a problem with it in other mediums. 

[Chilcek]

Any moderators can lock down my threads? Javier? Woo?

[Ashira Shepard]

Chilcek wrote...

Any moderators can lock down my threads? Javier? Woo?

Not quite going the way you thought it would?

[SkittlesKat96]

I doubt you have anything to worry about there as others have explained.

I'm more worried about them making EVERY single squad mate bisexual, I thought that was unrealistic and and a bit silly...but I suppose if it makes everybody happy then I'll just have to deal with it.

EDIT: I don't mind a squad mate or two in a Bioware game hitting on me and me having to reject them, I think it's realistic and adds to the story/emotion/feeling/whatever you call it of the game, I can understand though that some people wouldn't like this. I have a friend who thinks romances in Bioware games is a bit silly (he only likes the ones from the first Mass Effect and KOTOR) and doesn't ever pursue them and he was very annoyed at that Anders thing in DA 2 and he's also one of the people who wants it to be easy to reject romances in SWTOR...my point is that just because this forum has a lot of people that enjoy those features there are still people out there who don't like that stuff being forced on them.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 28 mai 2011 - 02:53 .

[AngelicMachinery]

yorkj86 wrote...

Mudzr wrote...

Finally, if a large amount of bisexuals being on your ship (because let's face it, have designated s/s squadmates is going to generate uproar anyway) seems unrealistic, well firstly, it isn't really that unrealistic, expecially in a time where pansexuality seems to be fully accepted.

Neither bisexuality nor pansexuality are "evolutions" of heterosexuality or bisexuality.  They are simply other sexual orientations.  Secondly, unless human biology itself is changing, proportions of the different sexual orientations will not change.

This is true,  but,   believe we will see more homosexuals, bisexuals,  etc openly when discrimnation dissapears.  

Modifié par AngelicMachinery, 28 mai 2011 - 02:53 .

[Ashira Shepard]

You never know, all that tampering with getting rid of disease might have changed something. *shrug* No idea.

But as others will promptly note "there are so many more homosexuals around than when I was young!" - it could just be that there's something in the water, if you want conspiracy theory and fear. Or it's just as likely that because there's more acceptance, more gay people are not so afraid as to stay hidden.