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Can You Run this game or ME-3 at all, and how well?


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Can (your PC) run this game, or ME-3, at all, and if so, how well? 

There are many forum messages in most game forums asking that question, and / or ignoring all national search engines, and asking what the game requirements are. There do not seem to be a great many of those in this particular (ME2) forum, although many of the members should have asked before making their purchases. 

Given my decision to skip ME-3, I have chosen not to post in the General Discussion forum there, either.  I think it will be appropriate to invite those folks to use this thread to ask if they can run that game.

You need to know what your hardware and software specifications are, to match to the chart I will insert for your use. I am including a link to an article about how you can collect the information.  We here on the Social Forums do not ever promote the web site operated by "System Requirement Labs" because they are wrong far too often to be trustworthy. 

If you choose not to learn enough about PCs to collect information on your own, there is a tool somewhat similar to the SR Labs, but far more accurate.  It is the "Game-o-Meter" at YouGamers, however, if that is your situation, it would be far better for you to avoid PC games, and choose console-based games instead. 

Here is the first link:

http://www.pcworld.c...de_your_pc.html

This is Part One of three parts.  Please don't become easily impatient.  We are volunteers.  This is a Self-Help tech forum for gamers, answered by gamers, and we aren't available here 24/7.  If you have questions other than about performance, start another message thread, instead of cluttering this one up with detours.  Thank you. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 23 avril 2012 - 03:21 .


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Can my (your) PC run this game, part two, the CORRECTED minimum game requirements:

Here are the (ME-2) minimum requirements

PC MINIMUM System Requirements
OS = Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
Processor = 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD CPU
Memory = 1 GB RAM for Windows XP / 2 GB RAM for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Drive = 15 GB
DVD ROM = 1x Speed
Sound Card = DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X = DirectX 9.0c August 2008 (included)
Input = Keyboard / Mouse
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater(**); ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce G.205, G.210, 310, 520, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and 9300; ATI Radeon X1300, X1550, HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, HD 4250, HD 4350, HD 4380. and (probably) HD 6370 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required. Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.
(**)Two of the Geforce 6800s are worse than the next-lower Geforce game card, the 6600 GT, and should be avoided (6800 SE, 6800 XT).  I consider the Radeon X1650 a better choice for minimum than the X1600 Pro. 

PC RECOMMENDED System Requirements
Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
2.6+ GHz Cure 2 Duo Intel or equivalent AMD CPU
2 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, or better, recommended
100% DirectX compatible sound card and drivers
DirectX August 2008
NOTES: For the best results, make sure you have the latest drivers for your video and audio cards. Laptop or mobile versions of the above supported video cards have not had extensive testing and may have driver or other performance issues. As such, they are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.  Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

(Unofficial P.S. Low end hardware will hit a snag right from the start, when any input ends up being ignored, so the first thing to do in the Tutorial amounts to an  impossibility.)

This was part two of three parts.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 23 avril 2012 - 03:23 .


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Can my (your) PC run this game, part three,

What are the system requirements for the PC version of the demo?

Minimum Spec:

OS - Windows XP SP3/Vista SP1, Win 7

CPU - 1.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (equivalent AMD CPU)

RAM - 1GB for XP / 2GB RAM for Vista/Win 7

Video - 256 MB* (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support)

*Supported chipsets: NVIDIA 7900 or better; ATI X1800 or better.  Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 9100, 8300, 9300, 8400, 9400, and 8500 are below minimum system requirements, as are AMD/ATI Radeon HD3100, HD3200, HD3300, HD3450, HD3470, HD4200, HD 4250, HD4350, and HD4380.   Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required.

Sound - DirectX 9.0c compatible

DirectX - DirectX 9.0c August 2009 (included)

Disc Drive - 1x speed

Hard Drive -  2.5 GB of free space

The form (IMO) that the specification lists should follow:

Basic Hardware Specification Chart (Empty so far)

Processor Manufacturer: AMD / Intel
Processor Name / Type: Athlon X2 / Pentium D / C2D / dual core / quad, etc.
Processor Speed:  ?.? Ghz
Operating System / Service Pack: WindowsXP with SP #?, Win7, Vista ? 
System RAM: ? ? GBs (MBs, if less than 1024 ? )
Video (GPU) Manufacturer: ATI / Nvidia (only those two are supported, PERIOD, so please answer which of them you have)
Video Card Model: (examples) Radeon HD 6670 / Geforce GT 450
Video Card Driver Version: Catalyst ?.? / Nforce ??.??
 . . (please use the numbers, and dates, *not* the word "latest")
Video Card onboard RAM: ? ? ? MBs
Sound Card Manufacturer:
Sound Card Model:

(And this is only for the raw hardware & driver variations.  Potential software conflicts are far more likely to be game play problems, and developers cannot test for all possible program loads.)

If you want to append such a spec list here, feel free.  Please don't become easily impatient.  We are volunteers.  This is a Self-Help tech forum for gamers, answered by gamers, and we aren't available here 24/7.  If you have questions other than about performance, start another message thread, instead of cluttering this one up with detours, and keep clear in your mind that the Official Tech support is all on EA's help pages, it is not in the forums.

P. S.  Please use every day business style paragraph breaks, punctuation, and spelling.    

This was part three of three parts.  (The attraction of outdoor activity has already reduced the forums' message traffic to a small part of what is is in winter, when more people stay indoors.  Many questions are likely to go unanswered this time of year.  Forum archives are the answer for much of what may need to be asked, but AFAIK, this is the only thread about this subject in this forum.)

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 23 avril 2012 - 03:25 .


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This will be a reserved spot, in case a fourth part seems needed. 

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No one jumped in yet, despite the fact that at least one who visited here in this forum today could have reconsidered purchasing this game for his PC with a very low end graphics card. That member's card is so slow, so weak, that some onboard Chipset Video Chip devices are better than what he tried to play the game with.

I found him many under $50 Radeons to replace his Geforce 210, and only a single Geforce in that price range that was worth wasting a second on.

(Newegg even had a Radeon HD 4670 for $30 after rebate.  Mind you, it wasn't the full-power card, equal to the AMD Reference Samples, with their GDDR3 RAM.  It had plain DDR2 substituted.)  

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 juin 2011 - 07:34 .


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Gorath Alpha wrote...

I am very interested in finding out if the "Llano" APU from AMD is going to be equal to the minimum ("Trinity" should be, certainly, but we can't buy laptops with that one in them yet).

I have a similar optional assistance thread in the DAO Tech forum.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 15 juin 2011 - 07:38 .


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Incidentally, we've had a brand new member in another forum who tried running DA2 on a NetBook with one of AMD's Bobcat Brazos APUs in it (sub- 1.0 GHz core speed, and an HD 6250 onboard Chipset video chip).

It failed.

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In this forum going into this weekend, we had a message about laptops being made compatible with games through some software (or was it the other way? Did the member want the game to become compatible with his laptop? Darn! Age isn't so much fun when you can't remember what you want to!) This is the thread that he should have tried comparing his hardware against the game in.

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Don't forget that you can ask what will work in ME2 by submitting your system component list in this thread.

(Much more likely to be correct than the ignoramus crowd at SR Labs.)

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We have another new member complaining about flickering images in the game, who should have looked this message thread up first. Flickering is an Intel Chipset failing. Those chipsets are excluded from official support of the game.

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Someone has found an older "Can I Run it" thread today. This one would've been the better choice.

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Bioware named an entire list of "too slow" graphics cards that wouldn't work with the environmental feedback mechanism in the game. Anyone who did not understand how the graphics cards relate to the minimums could have asked about their PC here in this thread.

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I can vouch for the fact a i5 pentium processor, 4gb ram, and a Radeon 5470 card will play this game well.  As Gorath knows I spent many a few weeks on this forum, trying to solve the problem, which seemed to be the HP manufacturer website giving me the wrong driver for my card, even though I repeatedly gave them the correct model.

This video of Mass Effect 2 playing on a Radeon 5470, is the kind of performance I'm getting on my system (with I think, a slightly higher frame rate on mine).  With all effects turned on, resolution at it's highest, and in widescreen.



Already looking forward to Mass Effect 3, unless they "spec it to the moon", I should be fine to play it next March!!

(WARNING!!!! SPOILERS AFTER THE TWO MINUTE MARK IN THIS VIDEO)

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I doubt ME3 will be too much different in requirements to ME2 being on the same tried and tested engine it makes it use your systems resources effeciantly without waste. I imagine ME3 could be DX11 compatible though which will be a bit much to ask of the 5470.

As far as the 5470 running well with ME2 well it depends what you define that as. For me i define it as running consistantly smooth at 40-60fps in all scenes with no jitteryness and no massive framerate drops. I've tested ME2 on several systems and even had the game running using a single core Sempron 140 2.7ghz and a GeForce 9500GT. You can play the game on it but you'll get drops to 15fps in some areas and framerate drops in certain scenes that cause unacceptable jitteryness. The Unreal Engine is very accepting of most set ups but unfortunately it can't work miracles and you won't get perfectly smooth gameplay on all specs but it'll be playable.

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I was just tinkering with the equivalent message thread to this one that is in the DAO Tech Forum (added an invitation to the DA2 prospective buyers to ask about their PCs in DAO's thread). I decided to add an invitation to this one to prospective ME-3 buyers to ask how well we think that their PCs will run that game when it is released.

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Nvidia® GeForce® GTX560Ti with 1.25GB Memory is this a good one?

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lknewsome wrote...

Nvidia® GeForce® GTX560Ti with 1.25GB Memory is this a good one?

Quite good, although somewhat overpriced, typically.  Compared to a little tinker toy like a Radeon HD 4350, it's an absolute house afire, it's so much more powerful.  According to Toms Hardware, the Radeons in that price range are much more powerful yet. 

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Whats the lowest costing video card that you know of that will work for ME2 or ME3?

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Right off the top of my head, the Radeon HD 5570, which technically isn't "quite" a Gaming card by definition. If you can find an HD 6570, it's a little better, closer to the power of the HD 5670.

http://www.tomshardw...nce,3042-2.html

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

That one is a Gigabyte brand, $55 after rebate.

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Thanks!

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Don't waste time or thought on any two GB version. It won't be at all "better", and could very well be worse. Even the 1 GB one above (Gigabyte, edited in) wastes everything over 512 MBs when playing games. They have too narrow of a memory system bandwidth for any more, and aren't really fast enough to use the 512 MB amount very often.

http://www.newegg.co...CE&PageSize=20#

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Thanks for all the info. I had no idea what to look for and a very low budget..

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Is it worth trying to do myself or should i take it to a professional for installation?

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Overall, it's one of the easiest upgrades that there is, with only the addition of main memory being easier. There are countless web sites with fully illustrated tutorials, included videotaped and digitized recordings.

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@Gorath Alpha_
Windows 7 Home Premium Servicez Pack 1
Intel Cor i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
8.00GB RAM
64 Bit Processesor

Is this good enough for the game?  Thank you so much for alll of the help.  I really appreciate it!Posted ImagePosted Image

Modifié par lknewsome, 09 novembre 2011 - 06:54 .