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[EMailakaSrFox]

The creators of the reapers will come out and say, "Pwoned"

[KainrycKarr]

I personally think there will be some environmental reason as to why the Reapers are the "salvation" of chosen civilizations. There's a periodic natural disaster, and the Reapers "uplift" the civilizations they deem worthy. You must then choose; independence and freedom, knowing civilization will eventually be wiped out. Or Ascension with the Reapers, immortalizing the human race but sacrificing freedom and individuality.

[EMailakaSrFox]

I want there to not be a cheesy ending, that is all I ask.

[SilentNukee]

If there is a "twist", I'd imagine it's something along the lines of Shepard actually working for the Reapers without even realizing it. (Thus the reason why people just follow Shepard, no matter what. A trait Miranda even commented on out of jealously.) TIM is certaintly involved in some way...

[daigakuinsei]

The Reapers must have started with some critical mass. If the Reapers wait till there is advanced galactic civilization, one reaper wouldn't cut it. Bioware is going to have to explain this logical discrepancy.

Two explanations as I see it.

1. The Reapers came from another galaxy and run around having fun.
2. The Keepers are the originator of the Reapers. The Reaper strategy is centered around the Citadel, and the Reapers need the Keepers to open up the relay (too risky going head on against advanced civilizations at their likely HQ). Whether this means the Keepers voluntarily became Reapers or built them in some other conflict is an open question.

[Nozybidaj]

Shep's reaper implants he got in ME2 are the key to defeating the Reapers and he has to turn himself into a Saren-like husk thingy to defeat them.

[Ice Cold J]

My guess is that, in the end, there will HAVE to be some kind of deus ex machina that allows us to finally defeat the reapers. I believe that the united forces of the galaxy are strong enough to beat them, but it seems like the writers at Bioware have done all they can to point to the invulnerability of the reapers.

[NobodyofConsequence]

One of the ideas I keep coming back to is that all good villians believe that they are really the hero, and it's the 'hero' who is misguided and foolish. Saren being a good example, actually. By that logic, the Reapers do what they do for what they perceive as the benefit of the species they reap, and the benefit of species that have not yet achieved space flight. Reminds me a bit of some of Alastair Reynolds books.

Another writer's work I keep being reminded of is Stephen Baxter, in particular the Xeelee Sequence, where humanity fights an aeons long war against the alien Xeelee, only to find out that the Xeelee were really fighting another war against a species called the Photino Birds, who were... wait for it... a species who lived on Dark matter, and who deliberately harvested baryonic matter for their own needs.

Putting this all together, we have the Reapers fighting an aeons long war against some species of dark matter aliens, attempting to preserve the best and strongest of baryonic species along the way, while preventing those same species from interfering in their own war.

[Late2tParty]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Hmm, I can't think of any good twists that could happen at this point. So either it's a really good twist, or it's a bad/predictable one. If I may buck the trend and take this topic seriously for a minute...

- We don't know yet who Miranda's father was (this is the most obvious potential twist IMO).
- We don't know yet why the Shadow Broker was continuing to investigate the Protheans.
- We don't know why various people in ME2 have got their knickers in a twist over Dark Energy, nor why Haestrom is dying so quickly.

That's all I can think of right now. Did I miss anything?

- When asking TIM about the 'derelict' Reaper the IFF was found on, he mentions it was 'shot' by an ancient cannon/gun - and they traced the trajectory from the cannon to find the Reaper. But the 'cannon' was so deteriorated by time that Cerberus couldn't get any info on who had built the cannon or how it worked.

- Reapers had been replacing organs of the Collectors "with Tech" for millenia - per Mortin's rant - and yet one of the collectors is being analyzed, along with humans, on the Collector ship. What would Reapers not already know about collector genetics? [was this really -just- to give us the Promethians are Collectors "Aha!" moment?]

[Destroy Raiden_]

The humans completing their genetic destiny of defeating the reapers. Click the link for specifics.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7506237

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 31 mai 2011 - 08:44 .

[NobodyofConsequence]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

The humans completing their genetic destiny of defeating the reapers. Click the link for specifics.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7506237

The Prothean part of that works for me, but not the rest. We've seen too many indoctrinated humans already to believe humans have a Prothean given immunity. But I do like the idea of Prothean encouragement of certain traits to make things harder for the Reapers further down the track. Makes me wonder what the hanar might actually be capable of...

[HunterX6]

seirhart wrote...

I have a few things that I would like

1.) from day one sometime around the time TIM created cereberus he somehow finds a second reaper that is alive and well besides soverign and is using TIM for its own gain. For whatever reason it doesn't try to activate the citadel; course soverign failing also helps in that decision. So now TIM is a thrall of said reaper.

2.) I really like the idea that the reapers turned against there creators; the reapers are machines as well and they had to be created.

3.) there was an ancient war between a couple super advanced civilazations several million years ago; one of the races was losing and desperate to win and so created the reapers. The reapers started to turn the tide of battle but sometime during the war the reapers completely wiped out the other races and turned against the creators; the creators tried to fight back but by then they were so weakened that they lost.

4.) I am also of the opinion that said advanced race; when they created the reapers they left a weakness but we don't know yet besides of beating them up. I also wonder something would an massive emp blast do anything against the reapers?

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[Black Raptor]

The twist is that the Reapers were actually acting for the good of the galaxy all along.

[C9316]

The twist is that Shepard dreamt up the reapers, this entire time.

[Tamahome560]

Black Raptor wrote...

The twist is that the Reapers were actually acting for the good of the galaxy all along.

This is likely to be our big twist.

[HiddenKING]

The Collectors having seen how much everyone is enjoying Christmas without any gifts.decide to return all everything they stole.

[Epic Legion]

Harbinger: Shepard. I'm your father.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Epic Legion wrote...
Harbinger: Shepard. I'm your father.

Shepard: That's not true! That's impossible! TIM told me he was my father!

[Aimi]

For everybody who's brought up the Leviathan of Dis, Klencory, dark energy and so forth, you are aware that BioWare has stated that there will be red herrings on the way to figure out how to defeat the Reapers, right? They all have the potential to be Chekhov's Guns, sure, just like the way they used the Great Rift on Klendagon in ME2, but some of them - if not all of them - are definitely not going to pan out.

[habitat 67]

daqs wrote...

For everybody who's brought up the Leviathan of Dis, Klencory, dark energy and so forth, you are aware that BioWare has stated that there will be red herrings on the way to figure out how to defeat the Reapers, right? They all have the potential to be Chekhov's Guns, sure, just like the way they used the Great Rift on Klendagon in ME2, but some of them - if not all of them - are definitely not going to pan out.

Welll derp,
of course we know that.

[onelifecrisis]

I doubt that they will write a twist that requires obscure knowledge to follow. Anything you stumble across during copy-pasted planet surface missions in ME1 is, I think, very unlikely to be referenced in ME3 because hardly anyone who plays ME3 will have ever seen that stuff (and even those who did see Random Chunk Of Text 371 might not remember it).

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 31 mai 2011 - 11:49 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

NobodyofConsequence wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

The humans completing their genetic destiny of defeating the reapers. Click the link for specifics.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7506237

The Prothean part of that works for me, but not the rest. We've seen too many indoctrinated humans already to believe humans have a Prothean given immunity. But I do like the idea of Prothean encouragement of certain traits to make things harder for the Reapers further down the track. Makes me wonder what the hanar might actually be capable of...

Well genes do not stop the mind. So even if they have the anti-sleeper gene in them it won't stop them from encouraging indoctrination. To me the humans we've witnessed go through indoctrination haven't done so fast or slowly they seem to be in a middle ground. The gene only counteracts the sleepergene it does nothing to stop a human from being indoctrinated by proxy.
 
I think the scientist figured out the gene manipulation with the various species being collected by the reapers they didn't have time to do anything that would mess with the human mind to stop signal or pulse indoctrination but they could stop sleeper agents on a genetic level. The antisleeper gene (in humans) overrides the sleeper gene (in Asari) and makes the child be normal so while the child could through exposure be brainwashed/indoctrinated they won't be like their sleepergene parent and simply turn on when the reapers say go. In other words the antisleeper gene makes it so the child isn't a guaranteed reaper agent but all species are potential brainwashing candidates.

Someone brought up the line with Mornith saying the Yakshi were the Asari's genetic destiny I forgot about this line but now I'll have to think on it and see if I can come up with more to add on this point . I touched a bit on it in my link there but I want to add more to it.

[jmacrosoft]

Outcast83 wrote...

heres a twist

Female Shephard is Preggers and she doesnt know who the father is, gotta go through all of ME 1 2 and 3 Flashbacks to find out who it is! lol jk jk

Don't forget about going on the "Maury" show to test said "father".