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[Ahriman]

Meshakhad2 wrote...

I intend to use Wrex, Mordin, and Legion as my defense team. I will be invincible.

That would be hilarious.
Prosecutor: You work with geth!
Legion: We assure you, Shepard-Commander doesn't work with us.

[DarkNova50]

If Tali's loyalty mission on the Migrant Fleet taught me anything, it's that trials in the Mass Effect universe can be won with baseless arguments, a great deal of heroic chest pounding (see 'Hold the Line') and virtually no evidence whatsoever.

Besides, they were Batarians. Nobody likes them anyway.

[Moiaussi]

DarkNova50 wrote...

If Tali's loyalty mission on the Migrant Fleet taught me anything, it's that trials in the Mass Effect universe can be won with baseless arguments, a great deal of heroic chest pounding (see 'Hold the Line') and virtually no evidence whatsoever.

Besides, they were Batarians. Nobody likes them anyway.

They can occur on negligible evidence too, though. In the case of Tali's trial, all they had on her was her admission that she was providing Geth parts, something which on its own is (appearantly) not a crime.

It was a politically motivated tribunal, not any sort of formal trial. Shepard calls them on it and they are more or less forced to admit it.

Saren was convicted essentially on the basis of a single recording, which the Council simply listened to. There was no chain of evidence and it came down to trusting a Quarian they didn't really seem to know anything about. Even if they knew of her father it wouldn't have meant she was honest.

[TexasToast712]

Yakko77 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You could have handed over the Derilect Reaper... oh, wait, you destroyed it.

Well, there was Object Rho... oh, wait, you destroyed it.

Gee, if only there was some Reaper installation inside the galaxy, some sort of compound or outpost, which would have technology or even a significant part of a non-oblitterated Reaper, or the technology that could not be from a comparative galactic civilization.

Yeah, Shep has a way of destroying evidence that would prove the Reaper threat but the problem is that said evidence is a genuine threat at the moment and had to be dealt with.  There's no viable way to save the derelict Reaper or Object Rho.  One had to be destroyed in order to escape and the other had to be destroyed in order to prevent the Reapers from coming at that moment.  There's always the Collector base but even that can be destroyed or is in Cerberus' hands.

Also, Adm. Hackett mentions showing up to trial in your dress uniform but I'm wondering if you have a choice on that.

Paragon: Return to your Alliance roots in your dress blues
Neutral: Show your disdain for Cerberus and the Alliance by wearing civilian attire
Renegade: Show your willingness to do whatever it takes to save humanity by showing up in cerberus colors.

Or just show up in your combat armor you were wearing on your last save of your ME2 playthrough.

[TexasToast712]

DarkNova50 wrote...
Besides, they were Batarians. Nobody likes them anyway.

I like the way you think, friend.

[Meshakhad2]

Perhaps the trial CAUSES the invasion. Harbinger is subpoenaed as a witness, and shows up in person.
Defense: I now call to the stand the Reaper known as "Harbinger".
*Harbinger tears off the roof, hovering over the witness stand*
Judge (who has previously been established as possessing a quad): Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you G-d?
Harbinger: DECEPTION SERVES NO PURPOSE.
Judge: ...acceptable.
Defense: Please, for the record, state your name for the court.
Harbinger: WE ARE HARBINGER.
Defense: And you are a Reaper?
Harbinger: "REAPER". A SUPERSTITIOUS LABEL APPLIED BY THE PROTHEANS TO GIVE NAME TO THEIR DESTRUCTION.
Defense: But you and your kind were responsible for the annihilation of the Protheans.
Harbinger: YES. AS WE WILL DESTROY YOU.
Defense: Permission to treat the witness as hostile?
Judge: Granted.
Shepard: I also request that Exhibit C be brought to the courtroom.
Defense: ...your armor? We already used it.
Shepard: There's a Reaper hovering over the courtroom.
Defense: Good point.
Judge: Granted. Bailiff, please retrieve Exhibit C, along with Shepard's weapons.
Prosecutor: Objection! Arming the defendant is... well, I don't believe there's a specific law, but common sense would indicate that it is a bad idea.
Judge: Overruled.
Defense: *activates holoscreen, displaying an image of Sovereign attacking the Citadel* Can you identify the vessel in this picture.
Harbinger: THAT IS NAZARA.
Defense: Harbinger, in 2183, Nazara led a fleet of geth ships attacking the Citadel. Over twenty ships were destroyed that day, and thousands of lives were lost. Was Nazara operating on its own initiative, or with the endorsement of the other Reapers?
Harbinger: HAD NAZARA SUCCEEDED, WE WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH AND PURGED YOUR GALAXY THEN. AS WE ARE DOING NOW.
Defense: I believe I have now established that Sovereign was not a geth ship, but a Reaper, and that the Reapers are responsible for both the annihilation of the Protheans and the attack on the Citadel. Clearly, they are a threat. Now, one more set of questions.
Harbinger, nine months ago, the Bahak system was destroyed by Commander Shepard. Were the Reapers about to arrive in that system as the Commander has claimed?
Harbinger: YES. WE ARRIVED AFTER THE SYSTEM WAS DESTROYED.
Defense: Dr. Amanda Kenson claimed that the Bahak relay was capable of accessing any mass relay in the galaxy. Is this correct?
Harbinger: YES.
Defense: If Shepard had failed to destroy the relay, you would have invaded our galaxy and begun the process of wiping out all civilization?
Harbinger: YES.
Defense: And would the three hundred thousand batarian colonists have been killed?
Harbinger: YES.
Defense: As you can see, Shepard's actions bought us crucial time, and may have made the difference between survival and annihilation. And while the death of the batarian colonists is regrettable, they would have died in either case. Defense rests.
Judge: I find Shepard innocent, as there was no alternative. Now, please stop this invasion.
Shepard: Yes, Your Honor.
Judge: And bailiff?
Bailiff: Yes?
Judge: Bring me my armor and weapons.

[Khayness]

Should be sufficent.

[Ahriman]

Meshakhad2 wrote...
Judge: I find Shepard innocent, as there was no alternative. Now, please stop this invasion.
Prosecutor: Objection! Shepard evade taxes!
Judge: Is that true?
Shepard: ... Yes, Your Honor.
Judge: Execute.

[SkittlesKat96]

 The bigger question is who will be Shepard's lawyer?
I want to be my own lawyer lol.

[Jagri]

This might be how the court room appears...

Modifié par Jagri, 30 mai 2011 - 01:11 .

[BurningArmor]

This trial will be a politically motivated kangaroo court. It will be driven by the Batarians and empowered by Alliance officials wishing to avoid war with the Batarians as preperations are made for the coming invasion.

I think it will be based purely on any charges the Batarians can come up with, although I acknowledge the possibility that they may receive help from indoctrinated individuals that would say anything to get rid of Shepard for the Reapers.

Many of the charges listed in other write ups in this forum would not come into this trial because they are not common knowledge. Shepard aiding Garrus in the vengence killing of Sidonis for example. Upon the Normandy's departure, CSEC did not have more than a bullet to tell them anything about the killing. Garrus has had plenty of time to disassemble and space that weapon even if someone actually figured it out.

Numerous other charges could not be used as they were performed as a Council Spectre.

For what remains, I think that Shepard will have made a deal before going into court about what he would be willing to talk about.

Issues denoting possible guilt would include:
- Issues mentioned in Shepard's after action report. This may be used as a confession.
- Any video of Shepard in the Batarian prison that might be recovered if it was stored far enough underground on non-volatile media.
- The incomplete warning to the Batarians if it was sent. If Shepard is Paragon, he might be able to turn this to his advantage.
- Indoctrinated individuals that escaped the Project in escape shuttles if they can be identified and found.

[Ahriman]

BurningArmor wrote...
I think it will be based purely on any charges the Batarians can come up with, although I acknowledge the possibility that they may receive help from indoctrinated individuals that would say anything to get rid of Shepard for the Reapers.

Just want to remind one thing.

[Northern Sun]

What I'd do is point out pre-trial that the relay destruction wasn't Shepard's idea, it was the idea of an Alliance science team who was sent into the system by Alliance brass, and the only reason Shepard was there was because an Alliance admiral asked him to. Even though the Alliance brass probably didn't send the science team in with the intention of destorying the relay, the connection would be enough for the general public and the Bataarians would instantly declare war.

With that threat, the Alliance shouldn't even be able to get Shepard to trial.

[Spinotech]

He did it, he killed the batarians.  No, really the space hamster did it.  It was him, I saw him do it.  I can see it in his eyes, he's evil, look at his eyes.

[naledgeborn]

It wasn't me?

[vanslyke85]

well if it was reality, the testimony of your entire crew would be enough. it doesn't matter anyways because the reapers interrupt the trial...oops

[Destroy Raiden_]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

 The bigger question is who will be Shepard's lawyer?
I want to be my own lawyer lol.

That's a good question I hope we get to pick at least from 3 lawyers I'd hate ot have Kellem's lawyer you know the guy who ran that Turian over with his car!

[naledgeborn]

“Give experience a try, call Fred Mazzei”. Extranet Keyword: Attorneys 'R' Us

[SlottsMachine]

4. Its my first day.

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 30 mai 2011 - 10:47 .

[100k]

Lets examine what can be used against Shepard:

-Stopping the batarians from destroying a planet with their own asteroid projectile will be huge. (the biggest factor)
-Stopping the batarians from nuking Alliance property or a weapon factory.
-Ruthless history with batarian war prisoners.
-Handling of batarians in general.

[Nathan Redgrave]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I believe it was a necessary evil but it is still morally wrong, no matter what the cause.

So in a situation where 300,000 batarians are Reaper chow no matter what happens, blowing up those 300,000 before the Reapers get there in order to save trillions more is "morally wrong?" It was the only option available at the time!

See, kids, this is why evil always triumphs--because good is dumb.

[sonsonthebia07]

Judge: Commander Shepard, you are brought forth today concern-

Shepard: I should be going.

Modifié par sonsonthebia07, 30 mai 2011 - 11:11 .