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[RGFrog]

Exactly what evidence is there for the trial? Everyone but one shuttle that gets away before you is dead. The entire system went poof. Did some batarian get out of the system? Did the escapees on the shuttle turn shep in? Hacket just said they'd need a scapegoat not that there was any evidence mounting...

If the system was outside council space (is it considered terminus or just batarian non-council space?) then shep can't claim specter since there's no specter authority there.

I think hacket just wants someone to give the batarians in order to avoid war. Who better than an agent he has no real control over?

[Yakko77]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I believe it was a necessary evil but it is still morally wrong, no matter what the cause.

So in a situation where 300,000 batarians are Reaper chow no matter what happens, blowing up those 300,000 before the Reapers get there in order to save trillions more is "morally wrong?" It was the only option available at the time!

See, kids, this is why evil always triumphs--because good is dumb.

:lol:

[Moiaussi]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I believe it was a necessary evil but it is still morally wrong, no matter what the cause.

So in a situation where 300,000 batarians are Reaper chow no matter what happens, blowing up those 300,000 before the Reapers get there in order to save trillions more is "morally wrong?" It was the only option available at the time!

See, kids, this is why evil always triumphs--because good is dumb.

That presupposes that believing it morally wrong is correct or 'good.' Morality is a lot more complex than that.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Those Batarians were already dead no matter what Shepard decided to do they were going to be Reaped. Shepard did the only thing he could and as far as I'm concerned it was Moraly correct as well.

There is no moral high ground in allowing the entire galaxy to die for no reason at all.

[alx119]

Made Nightwing wrote...

This is Chewbacca, Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor....etc.

Look at the monkey, look at the silly monkey!

LMFAO

But its a really interesting question, I didn't stop to think about it, but it's a bit difficult to get away with it... X( Maybe he can use Saren's case with Anderson, "it was necessary" or something :1

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Shep's defense at the trial?

Shepard: "..." //points outside to the Reapers

[Omega Torsk]

1.  The Eden Prime distress signal which shows Sovereign.

Oh, but didn't you know? Sovereign is a Geth construct! Uh-huh! The Council said it, themselves!

2.  The data module given to Shepard by Vigil

...wouldn't really prove much since it's only a protocol to hack the Citadel's defenses... now, if it had data directly from Vigil's memory, we would be cooking! Sadly, I don't think that's the case. I think the only thing Vigil uploaded was the protocol.

3.  Make a better case somehow regarding the wreckage of Soverign from the Battle of the Citadel

Sorry, Councilor Velarn already informed me that they have dismissed that claim...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You could have handed over the Derilect Reaper... oh, wait, you destroyed it.

Well, there was Object Rho... oh, wait, you destroyed it.

Gee, if only there was some Reaper installation inside the galaxy, some sort of compound or outpost, which would have technology or even a significant part of a non-oblitterated Reaper, or the technology that could not be from a comparative galactic civilization.

Oh! Oh, I know! ... Err wait, no... I broke that on all my saves...

4.  ....

Hmm... Keiji's Graybox? When all else fails, blackmail! Also, I think it had some files on Reapers, too.

Bah, no need to even worry. When the trial starts at the beginning of ME3, all Shepard will need to do is point out the nearest window. That will give humanity the evidence it needs!

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 31 mai 2011 - 05:40 .

[khordlambert]

I was actually hoping I could get Mordin as my Attorney. I figure him starting up a musical act could give my Shep enough time to run and get to a good spot to watch the Reaper invasion. Then it would be time to do what Shep does best. Killin' Reaps.

[tjzsf]

Eh, they're just effin' batarians.
Case closed.
Acquitted on all charges, obtain medal.

[Aimi]

Um, what are the charges? Seems like it'd be kinda hard to prepare a defense when you don't know what you're being charged with.

[BurningArmor]

Wizz wrote...

BurningArmor wrote...
I think it will be based purely on any charges the Batarians can come up with, although I acknowledge the possibility that they may receive help from indoctrinated individuals that would say anything to get rid of Shepard for the Reapers.

Just want to remind one thing.

Sorry for taking so long to get back on this.  Been busy.

Anyway, my previous statements were based on the idea that folks in this thread had played the Arrival DLC.  Also I had not seen Casey Hudson's statement.

With that in mind, it is possible we players might not even see the trial.  Shepard might be in a supermax jail already as ME3 starts having been convicted of 304K+ counts of manslaughter (batarianslaughter?) or at least paying a plea deal.   Yes, there could be a flashback to the trial or more likely reference(s) made to it by who ever comes to release Shepard when the Reapers do show up. 

For those that did not play Arrival, Shepard could still be stuck in this cell. 

If one thinks about the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC, one of the things Shepard gets out of that was access to some correspondance between an Alliance Intelligence Operative and Admiral Hackett.  This email asked Admiral Hackett for permission to bring Shepard in for 'questioning' for six or seven months.  The desire being that unspecified human factions want to know where Shepard was for the two years Shepard was believed dead and what Shepard has been doing since he began working with Cerberus.  Even though Hackett denied permission to do this, a rougue operation could be run using bounty hunters for plausable deniability.

One did not have to play the Shadow Broker DLC for this to still happen.  The player just does not get the foreshadowing of what is to come.

To explain why a renagade Shepard has not escaped, they may go as far as putting Shepard on ice like the Blue Suns did with Jack in ME2.

Oh, well.  That's my two cents worth on the situation.    

Modifié par BurningArmor, 03 juin 2011 - 02:29 .

[Clonedzero]

well Shepard is being tried as a war criminal right?
Tali should step in to defend him, because tali is all about defending war criminals

[Thompson family]

Defense? Reapers arrive. "Court dismissed."

[Fiery Phoenix]

Can't wait to see the look on everyone's face in the court room when that happens, Thompson!

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 03 juin 2011 - 03:40 .

[Misnomer]

It's hard to bring a defense in a show trial, other than effectively calling it out as such, as in Tali's trial. Hackett admitted as much, saying that evidence against Shepard was "shoddy at best.", but that there was just enough evidence for a "witch hunt" and Shepard being a "convenient scapegoat" to avoid open war with the Batarian Hegemony.
I'm thinking, that the Batarians demand that Shepard be handed over to them, or something.
Whatever way it goes, I think we can agree that the Reapers are going to interrupt impolitely.

Modifié par Misnomer, 03 juin 2011 - 03:56 .

[Thompson family]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Can't wait to see the look on everyone's face in the court room when that happens, Thompson!

Agreed. A prophet is without honor in his own land, as the saying goes.

[kaiki01]

Only defense Shepard needs

Modifié par kaiki01, 03 juin 2011 - 05:12 .

[Spectreshadow]

Well I figure the evidence you present will be determined by your actions in 1 and 2. For the most part though I fully expect the Earth to get attacked during the trial.

[RailTracer]

I figure the trial's going to end something like this:

[Thompson family]

kaiki01 wrote...

Only defense Shepard needs

That is -- distirbing, even if it is photoshopped (and I don't know if it is.)

[Iakus]

Clonedzero wrote...

well Shepard is being tried as a war criminal right?
Tali should step in to defend him, because tali is all about defending war criminals

Tali returning the favor for Shep?

That could lead to interesting consequences...

[Herakleia]

naledgeborn wrote...

It wasn't me?

1. Wasn't me.

2. Was somewhere else. Not there.

3. Act of God.

4. Res ipsa loquitur.

5. E pluribus unum.

6. I plead the Fifth.

7. No, not the Fifth Amendment.  I was too drunk at the time to know what I was doing.

8. Guilty but insane!

[Onpoint17]

I think Shepard was screwed when Admiral Hackett handed back his report at the conclusion of The Arrival. I don't know if Hackett has a vendetta against Shepard after his dear friend Dr. Kenson was killed or murdered or however you want to look at it. But I don't trust Hackett's motives. On the bright side I believe the new Shadow Broker can exonerate Shepard. Remember the video room in the back of the Shadow broker base? I wouldn't be surprised if there was evidence there that would set Shepard free.