422 respuestas en este tema

[Blitzkrieg0811]

I don't "hate" him, he's pretty boss. I'd like him if he wasn't a whiny emo/total dick to Merrill >

[Kallianira]

I love him... love, love, love, love, love, love, love.... him!

[ReiSilver]

Fenris also has pretty funny incidental dialogue when you bring him along on quests. He's a real deadpan snarker and I love it X3
I rivalmanced him with a mage and he didn't snap at Hawke unless he's already upset. Maybe it's because my Hawke was a silly/sarcastic Hawke and Fenris actually laughs/enjoys Hawke's humor
I mean look at this:
d'aaawww

[ThePinkFoxx]

LOVE HIM!!!

[sable-eyed-lily]

Knight of Dane wrote...

sable-eyed-lily wrote...

How can you hate Fenris? :o:o:o

How can you possibly deny the puppy eyes? Besides, have you seen the romance scene *wags eyebrows* He had me sold at the wall throwing:devil::devil: 

...Actually, he had me sold at the awkward cough after the 1st flirt outside his mansion :wub:

personal opinions, remember?

1) Easily, he yells at PC every time he opens his mouth, as i mentioned in he start of the thread he apologizes most times, but they become meaningless when he keeps on growling right after.

2) He just have eyes, actually when comparing them to those of a animal i would have to say he's more like a cat, bleeding unpredictable, at one moment they lie in your lap and rest and the next they attack your nose.
What defines puppy eyes is looking like a puppy no matter what mood youre in, Fenris doesn't.

3) I liked that for a smex partner, but not for a love interest. When the act of lovemaking becomes as violent as wrestling i can't really see the appeal. Sure good for fun sheet aerobics, but i, or my Hawke's, won't be in that kind of relationship.

I can't help myself. (Besides, I love cats. It's a wonder Anders doesn't have a crush on Fenris with his cat-like attitude) And I have a weakness for men who brood and/or snark at everyone. I asked Anders during his romance if he wanted a sandwich in the hopes we could invite Fenris to the bedroom :devil: You can't imagine my disappointment when that didn't happen... *sighs* Alas...

[ElnVld]

I want him!

[Avilia]

I have no problem with him. All his issues are understandable and he's got a good sense of humour to balance it.

I like to call him 'Tevinter exposition man' - he's got a lot of interesting info to pass on.

[christrek1982]

Ok I agree with what you say he dose go at Merrill and in a way that is totally unprovoked as she only shows him compassion people seem to miss that about Merrill they just see the blood magic and it's “arrrg blood mage run away”

she at least tries to be kind to everyone I also agree that blood magic is just a too and it's how you use it.

Fenris is an OK tank and is a good counter to anders pro mage spiel but like anders he invalidates is argument by using his magic tat's to rip peoples harts out (you don't see the evil Merrill the blood mage do that)

but alas you in a loosing fight as the are meany more Fenris and anders fans and we can all be passionate about are NPC of choice

[gurlgotkat]

my first playthrough i was a mage and i couldn't help but like him b/c he just disagreed with eveything i did. xD i think i had too much fun irratating him.

it's is kind of refreshing that not every companion is going to agree with you.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I have a very passive/agressive relationship with him. As long as he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't rant on mages, we're cool. I despise slavers, so we have something in common. However, when he starts ****ing on how magic corrupts everything and calls everything it touches rotten, or insults Merrill, I suddenly wish there were Renegade interrupts in DA2. You see, my Hawke (and I) loves her sister to death, and is very fond of Merrill. Yes, there are bad mages. Yes, there is evil magic. But dear Maker, don't such an ass about it!

[themonty72]

Maybe I should have called this topic StoneCold Fenris instead of who hate Fenris. I never said I hated him but disliked him because he hates all mages and rips Merrill. I despise slavers also, but that dude was alright sometimes other times I was like here goes the hate  mage thing again.

Editado por themonty72, 30 mayo 2011 - 08:46 .

[GodWood]

I hate mages
And I'm not keen on Merrill


So I like him just fine

[Ryzaki]

I don't see why anyone would hate Fenris. Sure he badmouths mages but some of them need to be badmouthed. I can see being annoyed by him though. Especially with his verbal lashings of Merrill.  

Editado por Ryzaki, 30 mayo 2011 - 09:32 .

[berelinde]

I didn't hate him, but I didn't love him, either. Harping about the evils of magic got mildly annoying, and might have pushed me more toward dislike if he wasn't so extreme about it. He was so rabid about the issue that I just shut down. You know he's going to blame magic if he stubs his toe, so when he does, you just ignore the inevitable rant and move on.

As a love interest, he does nothing for me. Maybe he's too quirky? Too many grabs for sympathy? That can't be right. I'm over the moon about Anders, and he's even worse. It might be the Aerie syndrome. His past was tragic to a nigh-unbelievable extent and it left its scars on him, but his whole life is defined by those scars. He cannot look beyond them. He does know a pain more terrible than anything any other character in the game has known, but it happened in the past. He clings to the memory of it and flatly refuses to let it heal. Unlike Anders who will always be an abomination no matter what he does, Fenris has a chance at a new life. He swears that he's going to make one, but the life he makes is just like the old one, and it's his choice. He refuses to stop being a victim. That makes it very hard for me to feel sympathy for him.

[Ryzaki]

Edit: Gah. NVM I promised myself no more DA2 debates. 

Editado por Ryzaki, 30 mayo 2011 - 10:41 .

[berelinde]

Yes, repeatedly, but words are cheap and nothing changes after he says them. Acknowledging a fault is the first step toward recovery, but he never takes a second step.

That conversation can occur very early in Act 3. "Alone" is usually the first Act 3 quest I do, since it's so short. With Anders' rivalry, you can get him to admit he screwed up and later dialogue lines reflect this admission, but with Fenris, it's as if the conversation never happened. If he said "I probably should let it go, but I can't" even once after the last QB, it would be a lot easier for me to sympathize with him.

Perception is an individual thing. Sure, if a patch came out that introduced some kind of rivalry-specific changes to his post-QB dialogue, I would be happy to rethink my opinion of him, but I have yet to see anything in the game or in discussions about it to make me reevaluate my stance.

Gah, should have quoted text instead of just hitting "reply". Nevermind.

Editado por berelinde, 30 mayo 2011 - 10:56 .

[Kwanzaabot]

He never got along with my mage Hawke, but there were some touching moments where they'd get drunk together in his mansion, and he DID have my back during the final battle...

So I liked him, even WITH maxed rivalry. He was hard to like, but complicated relationship or not, he was one of my favourite characters.

[Amondra]

I don't hate Fenris. He brought the "Mages can do this" to the table, where Anders brought "Not all mages want that" and Merrill covered the "Not all blood mages are what you see."

His past is really tragic and I want to hug him for it. Like I feel bad for Anders, fudging up trying to help a friend. (but really who isn't tragic in this game?)

What annoys me, about Fenris and Anders as well, is you can't open their eyes for anything! You can not get them to even take a nudge outside of their little boxes it starts to wear on you. I love them both equally. I found both to be great character's my Hawke's would do anything for them. But oh man there were times where they were mere seconds from a plated gauntlet to the face.

Editado por Amondra, 30 mayo 2011 - 11:17 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I just wanted to lure Anders and Fenris back into my mansion, lock them both in and...

MAKE THEM FREAKING HAVE A RATIONAL ARGUMENT. (And by make them have a rational argument, I mean yell rational arguments at them and force them to acknowledge them.)

Ok, Anders, Admit that the Tevinter Imperium is just as bad as the Kirkwall Circle, and that it's very important not to let anything like that happen in the rest of Thedas!

Ok, now Fenris, admit that mages are basically slaves, and that not being allowed to ever have a family or breathe free is a problem, no matter who it is happening to!

Now Anders, admit that Blood magic is bad, and a LOT of mages do do it, so some impartial third party has to monitor mages and make sure they don't do it! 

Now, Fenris, admit that being treated cruelly and exposed to immeasurable pain and suffering your entire life does not, in fact, improve your attitude, and the cruelty that is currently shown to mages may be making the situation worse!

/stands fuming, fists clenching and unclenching at her sides.

ARE WE GOOD?

Ok. Well now, kiss and make up?

Editado por CulturalGeekGirl, 30 mayo 2011 - 12:42 .

[Kajan451]

I want to make Anders and Fenris fight to the death. Its totally beyond me how the two of them could ever have been in the same room, glimbse the others opinion on the matter and not be at each others throat in mortal combat.

Two hardliners in one Group, who are very vocal about their opinions and don't seem to be able to acknowledge shades of grey. The likeliness of the two of them working together is rather small.

Merill and her "oh i am such a nice bloodmage" i can deal with, she might have an opinion but she acknowledges Bloodmagic is bad under some cirumstances. Neither Fenris nor Anders seem to acknowledge the possibility of being wrong.

So i really would want to toss them into a room, throw a dagger in there and close the door, never to be opened again.

[Miss Greyjoy]

I really liked him, in spite of the fact that he was a bit rough around the edges. Yes, he was really BLUNT when speaking, and there were times when I was like "I can't believe he just SAID that!". But when push comes to shove, he is one of the few characters in the game that is totally honest with Hawke. I feel like he will always have my back (he never turned on me at the end). Some of the other charcters feel like "users", but never Fenris, IMO.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Ok. Well now, kiss and make up?

I would give a kidney to see that!

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One of us. One of us. One of us.

Editado por CulturalGeekGirl, 30 mayo 2011 - 01:00 .

[themonty72]

You know when I picked a rogue for my second play thru it was Fenris, Merrill, Anders, and myself. Most of the time he rip on Merrill other times it was quiet I was like dont nobody really like each other in this group.l