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[CroGamer002]

[quote]Siansonea II wrote...

"When Earth calls, you be there with your dress blues on, ready to take the hit."

Oh REALLY muthaplucka?[/quote]

The f*ck?

[quote]It's because of YOUR sorry azz that I ended up looking for Indoctrinated Scientest Number 5,726 a.k.a. Amanda Kenson,[/quote]

And Hackett knew that she was indoctrinated because?

Any he told you that she found evidence about Reaper invasion. Yeah, one of the few people in power that wants to help you to find evidence about Reapers.

[quote]and it's because of YOUR sorry azz that I couldn't shoot her in the cutscene BEFORE she set the reactor to meltdown,[/quote]

wut?
How the hell that's his fault?

[quote]necessitating me running around in circles doing BS combat and find-the-widget pointless activity passing for "gameplay".[/quote]

Running in circles? Did we played same DLC?

[quote]It's because of YOUR sorry azz that those scientists were out there digging around Object Rho like shifty-eyed
cows with no sense of caution.[/quote]

He never send them there. Kenson did.

[quote]It's because of YOUR sorry azz that I have carpal tunnel from all that pointless combat.[/quote]

Pointless combat?
WTF?!

What's not pointless combat for you?

[quote]So really, Admiral Hackett, how about I go all Khalisah bint Sinan al-Jalani on your Zaeed-clone face?[/quote]

Yeah, punching an Admiral, one of the few in power that is helping you, is GOOD idea.

[quote]MAN I do not like Arrival. Shepard is a ****** for thinking that Amanda Kenson could get a vision from a Reaper artifact without getting indoctrinated ("We're not children, we know what we're dealing with"—famous last words b¡tch) [/quote]

Indoctrination is NOT instant!

As far as Shepard knows, they could have stay away from that artifact and do Project.
I don't think you knew that Reaper artifact is in the middle of that base.

[quote]Given the way the Alliance and the Council don't officially believe in the Reapers, Indoctrination, etc., Shepard SHOULD have seen that coming. And Hackett's debrief afterward—just condescending. How about you sweep all that under the rug there Admiral Lack-it? Or did somebody record the Normandy jumping through the Alpha Relay on the camera phone and posted in on the extranet?[/quote]

Cameras in prison, Shepard warning Batarians and Normandy is last ship that exit Bahak System.

Also Batarian Hierarchy now has an excuse to go to war, Alliance would loved to scapegoat Shepard.

[quote]Seriously, about half of my Shepards are going to tell Hackett and the Alliance to shove it when ME3 rolls around.[/quote]

Becasue of this reasons?

[quote]I sincerely hope that Arrival isn't the template for combat in ME3. Not everyone has wrists of iron, BioWare.<_<[/quote]

wut?

[Big stupid jellyfish]

...No. In Alliance military, Hackett punches YOU.

[Zall]

DPSSOC wrote...

That's what Paragons get, the satisfaction of breaking a human soul with nothing more than charisma and good cheer.

That's so going to be my new signature

[Nashiktal]

I'd actually rather punch Anderson rather than Hackette. Hackette knows his job, and putting shep to trial is nowhere near the betrayal Anderson does if he was made a councilor.

[CroGamer002]

Nashiktal wrote...

I'd actually rather punch Anderson rather than Hackette. Hackette knows his job, and putting shep to trial is nowhere near the betrayal Anderson does if he was made a councilor.

When did Anderson betrayed Shepard?

[Nashiktal]

The moment he quit being the human councilor.

[CroGamer002]

Nashiktal wrote...

The moment he quit being the human councilor.

And he betrays Shepard with that, how?

[CroGamer002]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

You can't "punch" neither Hackett, Anderson or Zaeed. Their bodies are made out of fists, all you'd do is bro-fist them.

It is physically impossible!

You sure about that?

[GuardianAngel470]

Siansonea II wrote...

"When Earth calls, you be there with your dress blues on, ready to take the hit."

Oh REALLY muthaplucka? It's because of YOUR sorry azz that I ended up looking for Indoctrinated Scientest Number 5,726 a.k.a. Amanda Kenson, and it's because of YOUR sorry azz that I couldn't shoot her in the cutscene BEFORE she set the reactor to meltdown, necessitating me running around in circles doing BS combat and find-the-widget pointless activity passing for "gameplay". It's because of YOUR sorry azz that those scientists were out there digging around Object Rho like shifty-eyed cows with no sense of caution. It's because of YOUR sorry azz that I have carpal tunnel from all that pointless combat. So really, Admiral Hackett, how about I go all Khalisah bint Sinan al-Jalani on your Zaeed-clone face?

MAN I do not like Arrival. Shepard is a ****** for thinking that Amanda Kenson could get a vision from a Reaper artifact without getting indoctrinated ("We're not children, we know what we're dealing with"—famous last words b¡tch). Given the way the Alliance and the Council don't officially believe in the Reapers, Indoctrination, etc., Shepard SHOULD have seen that coming. And Hackett's debrief afterward—just condescending. How about you sweep all that under the rug there Admiral Lack-it? Or did somebody record the Normandy jumping through the Alpha Relay on the camera phone and posted in on the extranet? Seriously, about half of my Shepards are going to tell Hackett and the Alliance to shove it when ME3 rolls around.

I sincerely hope that Arrival isn't the template for combat in ME3. Not everyone has wrists of iron, BioWare.<_<

As far as carpal tunnel goes, it's your fault for playing on PC.

As for the rest, your first point makes sense, but the rest doesn't. It is not, in fact, Hacketts fault that you are given no options. It is not his fault that you can't shoot Kenson or any of those other things.

Yes it's his fault that you were there, but everything else was decided by Bioware, not Hackett.

[Sebby]

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you played a Renegade it isn't the first time Hackett used you for under-the-table dealings. He's not as nice a guy as most people would like to believe.

He clearly isn't, if you wipe out the whole biotic cult with Major Kyle in ME1 he doesn't seem to care and says he'll cover up Shepard's involvement.

That's why he's better than Anderson. :happy:

[Dean_the_Young]

Nashiktal wrote...

The moment he quit being the human councilor.

Retribution, from Drew's own admission, was written with the basis that Udina was selected as Councilor. Anderson never quit, because Anderson never was the Councilor in the first place.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Saphra Deden wrote...

10 bucks says that ME3 will explain that Anderson stepped down as Councilor not long after you met him in ME2, becoming Udina's adviser. Then the events of Retribution happened.

Quoting for emphasis.

[Dean_the_Young]

Saphra Deden wrote...

10 bucks says that ME3 will explain that Anderson stepped down as Councilor not long after you met him in ME2, becoming Udina's adviser. Then the events of Retribution happened.

Change 10 bucks for a 'I told you so' via text, and you're on.

[Woodstock-TC]

Siansonea II wrote...

[.....]
I sincerely hope that Arrival isn't the template for combat in ME3. Not everyone has wrists of iron, BioWare.<_<

@TS: you have a funny way to put it but basically i agree 100%.
Arrival was the usual plot driven stuff we can see in every shooter, while it took a big step back from the char driven experience we are usually used in ME and BW games. Arrival was a major letdown, and i had exactly the same issues (no choices, no interrupts) listen to plot and folllow; have YOUR shepard & decision forcefully taken away, just watching what he/she does..

hope its not what ME3 will be about..

this and the insulting plotholes spoiled my expecations for ME3. I did preordered it though when i heard that they delayed the launch. (for me an indication that BW thought over some DA2 (rushed launch) lessons and arrival feedback). Lets hope the best, anyway expectations are way lower than before.

A perfect video review of Arrivals issues can be found here:
but careful, one of the comments summarizes it best stating:

"This colossal failure of a DLC/Bridge to ME3 just gets more infuriating the more we break it down, one of the worst cases of wasted opportunity in recent gaming history to say the least."

2Cents,
wood

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 30 mai 2011 - 03:46 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
10 bucks says that ME3 will explain that Anderson stepped down as Councilor not long after you met him in ME2, becoming Udina's adviser. Then the events of Retribution happened.

Change 10 bucks for a 'I told you so' via text, and you're on.

Quite frankly, I find it facepalm-worthy this even has to be questioned. I mean, do some folks REALLY think BioWare is just going to screw us over and canonize Udina as Human Councilor without ever bringing it up on ME3? No, I very much doubt it. Not when the whole thing can be fixed by literally no more than a couple lines of extra dialogue from Anderson.

[Dean_the_Young]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
10 bucks says that ME3 will explain that Anderson stepped down as Councilor not long after you met him in ME2, becoming Udina's adviser. Then the events of Retribution happened.

Change 10 bucks for a 'I told you so' via text, and you're on.

Quite frankly, I find it facepalm-worthy this even has to be questioned. I mean, do some folks REALLY think BioWare is just going to screw us over and canonize Udina as Human Councilor without ever bringing it up on ME3? No, I very much doubt it. Not when the whole thing can be fixed by literally no more than a couple lines of extra dialogue from Anderson.

This presumes there is a universal canon, which has never been implied or suggested.

I mean, this already has been asked to Drew, and he's the one who said that Anderson wasn't the Councilor choice in the first place for the purpose of the book. Everyone else just jumped up and asserted that the book had to apply as-is for all Councilor decisions.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

This presumes there is a universal canon, which has never been implied or suggested.

It does presume there is a universal canon, but only because I find it hard to believe Retribution ISN'T canon, especially considering ALL of the other novels and comics are, in fact, canon. Why should Retribution be any different?

Not disputing the possibility entirely; just saying it is highly unlikely that Retribution will only apply to certain playthrough's and not others. (Also don't forget Kai Leng has been confirmed to make an appearance in ME3, if that says something.)

I mean, this already has been asked to Drew, and he's the one who said that Anderson wasn't the Councilor choice in the first place for the purpose of the book. Everyone else just jumped up and asserted that the book had to apply as-is for all Councilor decisions.

I've read Drew's letter, and while it was perfectly understandable that he had to do it for the sake of writing Retribution's story, it doesn't change the fact that they can still fix it upon ME3. Of course, fixing it won't involve reinstating Anderson as Councilor again, since Udina's Councilor status has been canonized per Drew's input on the matter. Rather, it can be fixed by dialogue--nothing more, nothing less.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 30 mai 2011 - 02:09 .

[SalsaDMA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you played a Renegade it isn't the first time Hackett used you for under-the-table dealings. He's not as nice a guy as most people would like to believe.

Indeed.

Hackett is a manipulative SOB. He just is better at hiding it normally. I consider the only reasonable excuse for Arrival as being Hackett setting Shep up for some reason.

People are deluding themselves if they think Hackett never tried manipulating Shepard or is beyond backstabbing.

[Sebby]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you played a Renegade it isn't the first time Hackett used you for under-the-table dealings. He's not as nice a guy as most people would like to believe.

Indeed.

Hackett is a manipulative SOB. He just is better at hiding it normally. I consider the only reasonable excuse for Arrival as being Hackett setting Shep up for some reason.

People are deluding themselves if they think Hackett never tried manipulating Shepard or is beyond backstabbing.

Hackett is TIM lite and I love him for that.