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[TEWR]

Bioware, I speak not on behalf of every person who has played the game but on behalf of every poster I've seen who has stated they despise the new look with a vast hatred of fiery, burning.... well.... hate. Which is to say a lot of posters. I haven't yet seen one person say they like the new look over the old.

The old design of the Hurlock soldier was horrifying but in the good sense of the word. It was something that inspired fear and looked like it was corrupted. You could actually sense the corruption that emanated from this:




But now, we have a design reminiscent of Skeletor. It's pure white, with nothing fearsome about it. There is no hint of these creatures even resembling a decomposing corpse. Their teeth are as flat as any human's teeth, when you had previously depicted them with teeth that were razor sharp. And even worse, the codex said they adorned themselves with tattoos, yet these things do not.




We, your fans who despise the new look, implore you to revert back to the old design for the Darkspawn infantry. I don't know if this is true or if it's just my imagination, but I seem to recall somewhere it was said that the change was made because they looked to similar to Orcs. But I saw nothing similar between the two. Maybe in game, but in the Ostagar cinematic they were clearly different.

So please, for the shock troop of the Darkspawn consisting of Hurlocks, allow them to change to their old look.

In my opinion though, I prefer the new emissary look, if it's the emissary look of the Hurlocks and not the universal one. Which I believe it is since you only gave us Hurlocks and Ogres and said Genlocks and Shrieks wouldn't be seen in DA2.

But yes, you see my point.


So, after this has been up for however long, most people agree on the following things regarding Darkspawn:

• Hurlock Grunts --- The vanguard of the Darkspawn army along with the Genlocks. These guys need to revert back to their original look. People argue that they weren't pale, but they were actually. Go to the very later pages (18?) and I posted pictures that indeed show they were pale. The Disciples were too. The thing is, they appeared to be dark-skinned or whatever because Ostagar took place in a storm. It was a lighting issue.
  
  
• Hurlock Emissaries --- IMO they just need to have human ears and not elven, and get rid of the S&M equipment that rests on their face. Other people are mixed in either a want for the old look or what I'm in favor for.
  
  
• Ogres --- The Ogres shouldn't have such a mushed up face and should be purple again.
  
  
• Genlocks ---   Genlocks are perfect imo. But I wonder, could you guys maybe experiment around with their color? We've seen too much Kirkwall beige.
  
  
• Shrieks ---- Perfect the way they were in Origins, don't need to be changed at all.

EDIT: we have been given permission to discuss the new looks of any and all races without fear of locking. So feel free to do so if you are inclined to.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 août 2011 - 02:03 .

[BanksHector]

I wish they would come up with another new look. I do not really care for either one of those.

[Zanallen]

The old Darkspawn didn't look like generic orcs, they looked like Uruk-Hai. Which fueled a lot of the generic Tolkien fantasy complaints.

Second, why were the old Darkspawn so dark? They live underground. No light. They should, by all rights, be pale if not albino. Similar to their new look.

Third, I don't feel that their old look really pushed the fact that they are supposed to be born from a corrupted human woman. They look more like decomposing lizardmen than human Darkspawn.

[TEWR]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

I hope a BioWare employee will see this. I personally would like the old look back. And why does the new Emissary look like a Shriek?

eh, they vaguely do. They have different facial structures though.




I can't find an emissary picture though

[Zanallen]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

I hope a BioWare employee will see this. I personally would like the old look back. And why does the new Emissary look like a Shriek?

I always assumed that it was a Shriek Emissary.

[Zanallen]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

I hope a BioWare employee will see this. I personally would like the old look back. And why does the new Emissary look like a Shriek?

I always assumed that it was a Shriek Emissary.

Then why doesn't it just say above their HP bars "Shriek Emissary"?

Because it just says Emissary?

[erynnar]

Yes, please BioWare, if the darkspawn ever show up at all, again, and I am assuming they will (They were killed off). Please, bring back the old designs for ALL of them. Seriously, they aren't scary at all. They make me laugh, and then get sad for the diseased and putrescent beings they were.

Was anyone tempted, besides me, to yell "BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!" Every time you saw them? Just me? Okay.

Modifié par erynnar, 29 mai 2011 - 11:51 .

[Zanallen]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Yeah, but if Shrieks(tainted elves)can be Emissaries, shouldn't they establish that by calling them Shriek Emissaries, since a regular emissary is just a Hurlock.

No, a Hurlock Emissary is a Hurlock Emissary. Just like a Genlock Emissary is a Genlock Emissary. Honestly, Shriek Emissaries make a hell of a lot more sense than Genlock ones, since dwarves can't use magic. I'd imagine that there are rare cases of Ogre Emissaries as well.

[Dragoonlordz]

Think that's bad I guess you haven't seen the Darkspawn in DA3 yet then...

[Zanallen]

erynnar wrote...

Yes, please BioWare, if the darkspawn ever show up at all, again, and I am assuming they will (They were killed off). Please, bring back the old designs for ALL of them. Seriously, they aren't scary at all. They make me laugh, and then get sad for the diseased and putrescent beings they were.

The old design didn't make any real sense considering the lore and environment that they came from. Personally, I would like Bioware to refine the current design or else create a new third design.

[erynnar]

Genlock Emissaries make no sense to me. OH gads! An Ogre Emissary? EEP!!!! That would be one big lightening bolt!

They made sense to me, they were corrupted. I am confused. In what way did the old ones not make sense? Also, I thought they were a pretty accurate description from Mr. Gaider's books, which I loved.

Modifié par erynnar, 29 mai 2011 - 11:57 .

[_Aine_]

I don't mind the new model, the new texture does absolutely nothing for it though. Dip the original guy in flour and he would like equally bland. The first has dark, rotted skin. It is the darkness that gives him a decayed gross look. White = too pristine to be scary. Mr. Clean got to them perhaps.

At first I thought the faces were undertextured, then the more I looked at it, the colour is that of bone, but itself is of musclature and flesh.  The high poly model looks much better, but even it looked a bit sterile for my personal taste. *If* nothing else, a retexture would help a lot, imo.

Modifié par shantisands, 29 mai 2011 - 11:58 .

[Brockololly]

Zanallen wrote...

The old Darkspawn didn't look like generic orcs, they looked like Uruk-Hai. Which fueled a lot of the generic Tolkien fantasy complaints.

Really? Cause I think the new hurlock armor and helmets looks extremely close to the Uruk Hai armor in Peter Jackson's LotR movies. Much more so than Origins.

Zanallen wrote...
Second, why were the old Darkspawn so dark? They live underground. No light. They should, by all rights, be pale if not albino. Similar to their new look.

Its a fantasy universe. Why are dragons purple? Why are dwarves short? Why do elves all of a sudden not wear shoes?

Zanallen wrote...
Third, I don't feel that their old look really pushed the fact that they are supposed to be born from a corrupted human woman. They look more like decomposing lizardmen than human Darkspawn.

Thats my issue with the new hurlocks though, is that they look more what I'd think of as ghouls, not 100% pure born from a Broodmother darkspawn. They look too much like a nutjob that rolled around in some chalk dust and started jumping around like a chimp. They should look significantly less human than they currently do with only vestigial remnants of their humanity apparent. They're supposed to be monsters, not zombies.

[Dragoonlordz]

Zanallen wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Yes, please BioWare, if the darkspawn ever show up at all, again, and I am assuming they will (They were killed off). Please, bring back the old designs for ALL of them. Seriously, they aren't scary at all. They make me laugh, and then get sad for the diseased and putrescent beings they were.

The old design didn't make any real sense considering the lore and environment that they came from. Personally, I would like Bioware to refine the current design or else create a new third design.

Imho they made perfect sense in the first one. They were rotting infected creatures that lived underground for most of the time. How on earth did they not make sense lore wise.

The Darkspawn are a race of mostly-humanoid tainted creatures that dwell in the Deep Roads.

[TEWR]

Zanallen wrote...

The old Darkspawn didn't look like generic orcs, they looked like Uruk-Hai. Which fueled a lot of the generic Tolkien fantasy complaints.

Second, why were the old Darkspawn so dark? They live underground. No light. They should, by all rights, be pale if not albino. Similar to their new look.

Third, I don't feel that their old look really pushed the fact that they are supposed to be born from a corrupted human woman. They look more like decomposing lizardmen than human Darkspawn.

yea.... not seeing an Uruk-Hai resemblance either. not enough of one to draw issue with anyway.





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[Dave of Canada]

I don't miss the mud zombies and their "" smiles.