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[Dragoonlordz]

Tommy6860 wrote...

I think one of the designers forgot the mouth ball gag with thong emi.

Maybe you could start a new fanfic, Pulp Fiction Meets Dragon Age (where's rayvioletta?)

Bring out the gimp!

Honestly my opinion of those pics, first one DAO scary and DA2 a joke better suited for big floppy shoes and a red nose The second set DAO scary and DA2 soft cuddly fuzzle butt creature. Third is only one where DAO kinda scary but not as much as first two examples for DAO while the DA2 example for the third set is uber creepy lock away your kids asap and makes deranged Shepherd meme look like a sane person not a perverted nut job.

[Dragoonlordz]

Tommy6860 wrote...

I don't mind the Qunari either, but I think they could have toned down the horns though, they were a bit too exaggerated. Ever notice how Flemeth has the near near same horn design shape for her hair as the Qunari Arishok?

No can't say I noticed that I might go have look now tbh. If thats the case I'm suprised I missed it.

Then again she had the fun bags of a 20y/o so I might have been not paying attention to her hairstyle and horns.

Took a look and yeh I see it now, the top part is exact copy and paste while the lower part is only slightly different with tip facing different direction.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mai 2011 - 04:14 .

[Tommy6860]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

I think one of the designers forgot the mouth ball gag with thong emi.

Maybe you could start a new fanfic, Pulp Fiction Meets Dragon Age (where's rayvioletta?)

Bring out the gimp!

Honestly my opinion of those pics, first one DAO scary and DA2 a joke better suited for big floppy shoes and a red nose The second set DAO scary and DA2 soft cuddly fuzzle butt creature. Third is only one where DAO kinda scary but not as much as first two examples for DAO while the DA2 example for the third set is uber creepy lock away your kids asap and makes deranged Shepherd meme look like a sane person not a perverted nut job.

Brockololly did the best job at describing the DA2 darkspawn, or should they be called "Chalkspawn"?

[TEWR]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

I can agree with this, but the elves in DA2 look like hybrids with the one aspect coming from a donkey.

I never quite got why they changed from pointy upwards ears to puppy aka sidewards or alternativley as you so rightly said donkey ears... I prefer pointy upwards ears personally.

I will bow my head in shame now and admit that I do however like the Qunari new look... *Runs for cover!*

But I do think the body paint is a bit much. I also don't see the need to make them blue given how different they look without change their colour, it just wasn't needed.

They're actually grey. You know how Tal-Vashoth means the "True Grey Ones". And Dworkin describes them as ashen skinned giants.

[Zanallen]

Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

[TEWR]

and the Kossith are grey, yet their coloring doesn't change despite being in the sun.


This is a fantasy world in a fantasy universe. some of our rules on genetics don't apply here unless stated that they do.

[Tommy6860]

Zanallen wrote...

Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

So, their looks didn't make sense in Origins?

[Zanallen]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

and the Kossith are grey, yet their coloring doesn't change despite being in the sun.


This is a fantasy world in a fantasy universe. some of our rules on genetics don't apply here unless stated that they do.

And they were originally golden skinned. Or bronze. Making them grey is a rather odd retcon. Unless where they come from has a climate that supports grey skin and the those that originally came to Thedas gained a darker complexion from the sun. That being said, the vast majority of examples within DA lore support skin pigmentation that is on par with that of the real world. Saying its magic or fantasy is just stupid.

[Dragoonlordz]

Zanallen wrote...

Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

Don't care as half the things in DA2 don't make any sense, what I do care about is I don't like it... So change it please.

For example not just Fenris corpse mansion, templars ignorance to a mage Hawke, a city filled to the brink yet quite empty streets, Merrill using blood magic which so happens to use mana not blood... etc. Skin pigmentation in darkspawn is least of Biowares concerns.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mai 2011 - 04:36 .

[Satyricon331]

Zanallen wrote...
Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

Besides the irony, I don't see how it makes sense to apply our biochemistry (melanin) and evolutionary heredity (its proportionality to ancestors' sun exposure) to a race that by all accounts did not arise by evolution.  Also, even if they did have melanin, there's hardly any reason to assume it would be the visibly dominant pigment.  You can see even in DA2 that the taint creates dark lines in the skin of newly infected humans, so why wouldn't it be dark for the darkspawn?

[Zanallen]

Tommy6860 wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

So, their looks didn't make sense in Origins?

Not really. At least, not with how I would have imagined a race of underground dwelling creatures born from tainted humanoids. In Origins they looked like lizardmen with little semblance of their supposed source. Everything else that lives underground is primarily pale, so why are the Darkspawn different? Why do they have scaly, dark skin with greenish tint? Honestly, the design for the Disciples looks the closest to what I would imagine Darkspawn to be. Though there is no reason for them to not have noses or ears.

[TEWR]

Zanallen wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

and the Kossith are grey, yet their coloring doesn't change despite being in the sun.


This is a fantasy world in a fantasy universe. some of our rules on genetics don't apply here unless stated that they do.

And they were originally golden skinned. Or bronze. Making them grey is a rather odd retcon. Unless where they come from has a climate that supports grey skin and the those that originally came to Thedas gained a darker complexion from the sun. That being said, the vast majority of examples within DA lore support skin pigmentation that is on par with that of the real world. Saying its magic or fantasy is just stupid.

Not exactly. Sten talks about the Tal-Vashoth and says that they call themselves the "True Grey Ones" and Dworkin calls them "ashen skinned giants".

It's not a retcon so much as it is something that was mentioned clearly but never seen.

[Tommy6860]

Zanallen wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Once again, the Darkspawn being pale makes sense for a race of beings that spends the vast majority of its time underground.

So, their looks didn't make sense in Origins?

Not really. At least, not with how I would have imagined a race of underground dwelling creatures born from tainted humanoids. In Origins they looked like lizardmen with little semblance of their supposed source. Everything else that lives underground is primarily pale, so why are the Darkspawn different? Why do they have scaly, dark skin with greenish tint? Honestly, the design for the Disciples looks the closest to what I would imagine Darkspawn to be. Though there is no reason for them to not have noses or ears.

My question was more rhetorical, but I will elaborate with another question. Would you being calling this an inconsistency had you not seen (or played DA2) the DS in DA2?. What I mean is, your basis is simply made from your experience with DA2 and howyou see the DS looks in it. Had you not played DA2 and only Origins, I think you wouldn't drawing this conclusion. Eithe case, I think the DS in DA2 look awful and nothing really frightening. As noted before, Brockololly described them best.

[Zanallen]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Not exactly. Sten talks about the Tal-Vashoth and says that they call themselves the "True Grey Ones" and Dworkin calls them "ashen skinned giants".

It's not a retcon so much as it is something that was mentioned clearly but never seen.

And Genitivi refers to them as golden skinned giants and Sten was far from grey. Neither were any other Qunari seen, Tal-Vashoth or otherwise.

[Zanallen]

Tommy6860 wrote...

My question was more rhetorical, but I will elaborate with another question. Would you being calling this an inconsistency had you not seen (or played DA2) the DS in DA2?. What I mean is, your basis is simply made from your experience with DA2 and howyou see the DS looks in it. Had you not played DA2 and only Origins, I think you wouldn't drawing this conclusion. Eithe case, I think the DS in DA2 look awful and nothing really frightening. As noted before, Brockololly described them best.

Before DA2, I still didn't like the look of the Darkspawn. I felt that they were generic mooks and the Brood Mother scene threw me for a loop 'cause I didn't think they looked much at all like the races they are born from.

[TEWR]

Zanallen wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Not exactly. Sten talks about the Tal-Vashoth and says that they call themselves the "True Grey Ones" and Dworkin calls them "ashen skinned giants".

It's not a retcon so much as it is something that was mentioned clearly but never seen.

And Genitivi refers to them as golden skinned giants and Sten was far from grey. Neither were any other Qunari seen, Tal-Vashoth or otherwise.

Maybe there are both bronze-skinned and ashen skinned Kossith.

[Elhanan]

I believe I might prefer something morphed between DAO and DA2; perhaps like DAA?

The original Darkspawn were horrifying for the most part, but my inital thought was Undead rather than mutation; same for DA2, but less gooey. But for me, DAA was the best as they were almost sympathetic at times when they were not trying to destroy you. IMO.

[craigdolphin]

Personally, I hate the new darkspawn and the new elven look. My wife actually thought it was a practical joke when I showed her the first shots of the new darkspawn.
On the other hand, the new qunari look pretty good IMO.

[Tommy6860]

Zanallen wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

My question was more rhetorical, but I will elaborate with another question. Would you being calling this an inconsistency had you not seen (or played DA2) the DS in DA2?. What I mean is, your basis is simply made from your experience with DA2 and howyou see the DS looks in it. Had you not played DA2 and only Origins, I think you wouldn't drawing this conclusion. Eithe case, I think the DS in DA2 look awful and nothing really frightening. As noted before, Brockololly described them best.

Before DA2, I still didn't like the look of the Darkspawn. I felt that they were generic mooks and the Brood Mother scene threw me for a loop 'cause I didn't think they looked much at all like the races they are born from.

Sigh!

[marshalleck]

I think I preferred the old look for hurlocks, not this weird new He-Man-meets-BDSM-gimp look.

Not that I have a particular distaste for either He-Man or BDSM gimps; mixing them is just a bit strange.

Modifié par marshalleck, 30 mai 2011 - 06:02 .

[AngelicMachinery]

marshalleck wrote...
Not that I have a particular distaste for either He-Man or BDSM gimps; mixing them is just a bit strange.

I personally think these go hand in hand rather well...

[marshalleck]

Maybe so, but that doesn't explain how it just went wrong somehow for the new hurlocks.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Zanallen wrote...

Everything else that lives underground is primarily pale, so why are the Darkspawn different?

Women of the elven, dwarven, human and qunari races generally have a single pair of breasts, so why are the broodmothers any different?

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 30 mai 2011 - 07:41 .

[Zanallen]

Tommy6860 wrote...

Sigh!

Its true. Genlocks looked nothing like dwarves, not even corrupted ones. Shrieks look nothing like elves and more like that creature from Mimic. Ogres didn't look like Qunari, but now the horns make sense. Hurlocks looks like stub faced lizard people.