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[Seboist]

Golden Owl wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Cheesy Blue wrote...

I prefer to play as a man because I am a man.

I prefer to play as a woman because I'm not a woman.  I'm bored as heck of playing as a man IRL. :happy:

What do you think appeals most to you about it?

It's mainly about digging the idea of playing as a ruthless female space hero as it is not too common across various media. There are some other factors like prefering the VA and finding her more aesthetically pleasing than manshep but they're secondary.

[Clonedzero]

SilentNukee wrote...

I think people connect with their Shep more if they play as the same gender. That being said, I personally enjoy my FemShep because I can actually connect with her, and I just can't with ManShep.
Although I know a lot of males who play FemShep, perhaps because they prefer Hale over Meer for voice acting. The FemShep community is about 50/50 when it comes down to the female/male players playing her, it seems.

yeah, its actually true in all games for me really. i get more "into it" when im playing a male i can project myself onto, while if im playing a female it feels just like im playing a videogame.

i know a couple guys that always play female characters in MMOs and when i asked why they say "well if im gonna play a game for a long time i want something im attracted to on screen all the time" and i found that sorta creepy lol

[Neria Rose]

Clonedzero wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

I think people connect with their Shep more if they play as the same gender. That being said, I personally enjoy my FemShep because I can actually connect with her, and I just can't with ManShep.
Although I know a lot of males who play FemShep, perhaps because they prefer Hale over Meer for voice acting. The FemShep community is about 50/50 when it comes down to the female/male players playing her, it seems.

yeah, its actually true in all games for me really. i get more "into it" when im playing a male i can project myself onto, while if im playing a female it feels just like im playing a videogame.

i know a couple guys that always play female characters in MMOs and when i asked why they say "well if im gonna play a game for a long time i want something im attracted to on screen all the time" and i found that sorta creepy lol

At least they market themselves as perverts to begin with so female gamers know to avoid them <_<.

[Woodstock-TC]

Prefer Femshep.
1. Jennifer hales performance is breathtaking.
2. Additionally its like the resident evil movie with a male char instead Mila.. just wouldnt cut it.
3. Femsheps angryness, wit, and power is much more of a surprise and potentially creating more suspension than the standard role of a male soldier. :-)
4. last reason: playing a game for 40+ hours makes up for a much nicer view on screen

usually in such games i prefer to try out some surprising characters especially in combat related games. Much more joy breaking stereotypes.
(think about Qunari views on Females as DA2 example.. and enjoy kicking the Arishock as female bas-serabas at the end. Thats killer!)

As old school role-player (started with D&D pen&paper) i additionally have no Haphophobia playing different genders and thinking it through and creating different personalities. It can be very interesting.

All in all, adding stunning lethality to a traditionally oppressed or underestimated group , gender (or even age if you want, although i prefer chosing f gender from that list)  will create a fantastic layer of additional suspension. (just watch HANNA, the movie, running now in the theaters).

greetings,
wood / ex NATO male soldier with exterritorial deployments btw and thus not surprising nor suppressed, nor getting prejudiced in RL in any form lol, so it does help me THINK about some RL stuff thats going on, and what I would do in their shoes.

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 30 mai 2011 - 09:36 .

[Sister Helen]

I play femSheps because I can get a semi-decent face that had good expressions in game, using the character generators.  Got three I liked - a femShep romance with Garrus, a femShep romance with Thane, and a femShep who was loyal to Liara. 

With the maleSheps, I never got a face I was satisfied with that looked okay in the game, so I was spending hours redoing one, then getting in game, groaning, then deleting it, then redoing the start of the game - which took FOREVER.  I finally made one that was (barely) tolerable, but I forced myself to play it for the Jack romance.

In general, I play as female characters for that reason.  In Dragon Age 2, however, I was able to get two maleHawkes that I liked the look of fairly easily, so I enjoyed playing them tremendously.

On a different note, the Jacob-dialogue leading to romance creeped me out so much that I never pursued the romance.  It also was an example of a gross abuse of a subordinant, which made the femShep a predator (since the import I had initially tried it on had a relationship in the past with a subordinant, Kaidan) with a very obvious pattern... I did manage to see the youtube video of it, and wince, the best choice I ever made in a computer game was NOT pursuing the Jacob romance.
And yes, I realize that Jacob is not technically military any more, but the guy is still saluting me as a commanding officer... And femShep died; she didn't get discharged, so she should know better.

[Dangerfoot]

I also like the look of female models more than overly bulky male models. I don't really "project myself" onto characters period, but I don't see how knowing that your character has the same parts downstairs makes it easy for you to pretend they are you. And why would you want to anyway? Role playing games are for role playing. People who name their characters after themselves and try to recreate their face just kind of baffle me.

[Sister Helen]

Dangerfoot wrote...

I also like the look of female models more than overly bulky male models. I don't really "project myself" onto characters period, but I don't see how knowing that your character has the same parts downstairs makes it easy for you to pretend they are you. And why would you want to anyway? Role playing games are for role playing. People who name their characters after themselves and try to recreate their face just kind of baffle me.

Oh good God, people DO that?!  * Rubs here eyes in disbelief. *

Reading these forums are always an education.

[Feena.c]

I like both.

FemShep: I'm a girl. I don't "insert" myself, I prefer coming up with personalities for my Sheps distinct from my own, I just still like being a girl. I just love how much fun it is being a tough, strong woman in a game. It's unusual.

MaleShep: I confess, I get cruches on my own Sheps. Lol. That, and just like I said I like seeing FShep cause it's unusual, I like seeing MShep because it's not. I love my male big bad action heroes. It's fun playing him cause I can make him my ideal hero. <3

[JamieCOTC]

With the voiced protagonist presumably here to stay, it's more important than ever that the player be able to connect with the PC character in a video game. Be they specific hero (Geralt from The Witcher, Nate Drake from Uncharted) or custom designed by the player (Shepard, Hawke from DA2) it's important that the player feel comfortable and even passionate about the character. That said, I just never felt overly enthused when playing maleShep. Part of it was the macho space Marine thing. For me, space marines were old hat in "Aliens." Another part was the voice. I know that Mark Meer is a very talented voice actor, but I just did not care for his Shepard. I do respect his decision to make his performance consistent, something Hale does lack from time to time. Jennifer Hale's performance, overall, seemed visceral and passionate, something I had not experienced in a PC in a video game. To me, that was fresh and the fact that she was female, broke the stereotypical mold as well.

Also, I've been playing video games since Pong and when the first CRPGs came out it was fun to play as myself for a while, but that eventually got old. Most of the time, I prefer to play a character (be they male or female) rather than an avatar and femShep offers a certain discontent that makes that easier.

Though I have profound issues w/ the game itself, I found playing either gender in DA2 was immensely satisfying.

[Any_ILL]

I play as femshep.

I think people connect with their Shep more if they play as the same gender.

Obviously it's not a general rule, I can't connect with maleshep, but i connect really well with femshep (and not in a dirty kind of way ^^). Both character are different from me, the sex of femshep is just another difference, it means nothing more than the feeling I have listening to maleshep voice (actually it means far less since this is one of the main reason I can't stand maleshep ^^).

I play femshep secondary and agree with this. Some of the action scenes (especially renegade) don't seem right with femshep. Maleshep looked silly headbutting a Krogan but Femshep doing it is silly to cartoonish proportions. She's not a man and shouldn't be portrayed as such. As it stands now she's little more than a female look and sound for maleshep.

Well I'm not accusing you of anything (I say that as a precaution, I'm not a big feminist and I don't think you're a discriminate monster or anything) but I think it comes mostly from your prejudice. I can't think of a good reason why she should look sillier headbutting a krogan (well not a good example, I found it really silly myself ^^ but that was as bad with maleshep) or anything.
Actually I feel exactly the same as you are, except it's the other way around (probably prejudice in my case too, I think I conditionned myself to like female main characters in bioware games over the years). When maleshep tries to act tough or sometimes even open his mouth I find him fricking ridiculous. I still have one maleshep though, I like playing him but I can't have more.

[Woodstock-TC]

Any_ILL wrote...

I play femshep secondary and agree with this. Some of the action scenes (especially renegade) don't seem right with femshep. Maleshep looked silly headbutting a Krogan but Femshep doing it is silly to cartoonish proportions. She's not a man and shouldn't be portrayed as such. As it stands now she's little more than a female look and sound for maleshep.

Well I'm not accusing you of anything (I say that as a precaution, I'm not a big feminist and I don't think you're a discriminate monster or anything) but I think it comes mostly from your prejudice. I can't think of a good reason why she should look sillier headbutting a krogan (well not a good example, I found it really silly myself ^^ but that was as bad with maleshep) or anything.

the scene rocked. join the army and watch (or better train with) some tough  women fight close combat and you will reconsider your statements about femshep beating the Krogan. Left alone that shes a cyborg afterall..

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 30 mai 2011 - 03:48 .

[Eshaye]

Sister Helen wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

I also like the look of female models more than overly bulky male models. I don't really "project myself" onto characters period, but I don't see how knowing that your character has the same parts downstairs makes it easy for you to pretend they are you. And why would you want to anyway? Role playing games are for role playing. People who name their characters after themselves and try to recreate their face just kind of baffle me.

Oh good God, people DO that?!  * Rubs here eyes in disbelief. *

Reading these forums are always an education.

Yes I do that. All the time. Heck even in games where you've no choice but to play a male protagonist I have the tendency to put myself in their shoes. It's still role playing, but maybe it's closer to acting then just seeing/watching a character on a screen. 

For me it's actually difficult to understand how people DON'T connect with their main characters in games like these. *shrugs*

Take for example a well known actor, let's say Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow. He still looks like Johnny to some degree but he gets to be a pirate. Same with Shepard, you can customize him/her to look like you if you want and even name them however you want but they are not you, you're just playing that role.... 

I'm not sure why I'm trying to explain that except to say it's not exactly the alien concept you two are making it out to be. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 30 mai 2011 - 03:55 .

[naledgeborn]

Personally I like Sheploo. I have 3-4 of those with different backstories, classes, and love interests. I like FemShep because it allows for more customization but other than that Hale is not all she's cracked up to be when compared to Meer in part 2. They're pretty much on par. Though like Seboist said in an other thread the only love interest I can take seriously for Fem Shep is Kaidan whereas Sheploo is good with Ash, Jack, Liara, and Miri.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I think my main reason for playing as femshep is because I'm a woman. Most games have a male protagonist so when I get the chance to play as a woman I take it. Not to say I disliked playing as Solid Snake or other male characters but there are plenty of them. I have tried to play manshep, but after playing femshep it just felt wrong. So I wonder if playing manshep would have been easier if I'd not played femshep before. I got pretty far on Origins with a male warden, maybe because he didn't speak, but my ps3 broke before I finished and I couldn't be arsed to go back.

[Guns]

Male Shepard
1. Bad ass character
2. I always play guys because I am one
3. Better voice

[Td1984]

My canon is male, however, I do have a FemShep that I occasionally play on as a change of pace.

[Odoyle]

I like both, and I'll have several ready to go for ME3. Some with different LI's, some single for what ME3 holds.

But overall, I gotta say that Jennifer Hale is amazing and she makes playing a Femshep much more enjoyable.

[AtlasMickey]

I'm really not interested in immersing myself in the Mass Effect universe. I just like art, beauty, and thinking about sci-fi. I am mostly a spectator to events in the Mass Effect universe, but an emotionally invested one, because I'm now drawn into the experience of building an interesting character in the Mass Effect universe. I tend to find female characters far more interesting than male.

Also, I like to draw, and I thought it would be interesting to try to create a female face using the purely numeric combinations offered in the game. What would I come up with and what might it reveal about me? How might it be different or similar to everyone else's? Every piece of art is in some sense a self-revelation. A bunch of little details come together and all of a sudden you're like, "wow, I made that!" It was endlessly fascinating and thrilling to see this woman I made given a voice and the leading role in so many dramatic events.

There's a bit of a "Weird Science" aspect to it for me. From my heart and from my hand, why don't people understand?

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 30 mai 2011 - 06:35 .

[Captain Crash]

Im male and I think playing femshep is a vastly better experience. There are numerous reasons why.

- The primary one being Jen Hale.
- Secondly femShep is a strong and formidable protagonist. She isnt overly sexualised, as is the usual norm for female videogame protagonists. She is equal to her male counterpart and there is little distinctions between them gameplay wise.
- As a result of this it a refreshing change to play a female who can kick ass just as well as any male and it makes a refreshing change to every other game out there.

[BTG_01]

I have never been able to put myself in the shoes of a character in an RPG. They just act too differently from me. I just pick a character's background by deciding what kind of protagonist I would find the most interesting as the hero of the story. In the case of Mass Effect, this was a badass mostly-renegade FemShep who loses her temper on more than one occasion. I just find it to be more fun that way.

[Seboist]

Captain Crash wrote...

Im male and I think playing femshep is a vastly better experience. There are numerous reasons why.

- The primary one being Jen Hale.
- Secondly femShep is a strong and formidable protagonist. She isnt overly sexualised, as is the usual norm for female videogame protagonists. She is equal to her male counterpart and there is little distinctions between them gameplay wise.
- As a result of this it a refreshing change to play a female who can kick ass just as well as any male and it makes a refreshing change to every other game out there.

Anyone know if femshep's smaller size makes her less likely to get hit by gunfire than sheploo? I always wondered that...

[AngryFrozenWater]

OP... There is a poll link in my signature. You can read dozens of opinions there. Have a look. Interesting read.

[Woodstock-TC]

Seboist wrote...
Anyone know if femshep's smaller size makes her less likely to get hit by gunfire than sheploo? I always wondered that...

classic PvP question