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[themonty72]

The begining of Dragon Age 2 should had Varric telling the tale of the  the blight attacking lothering and Hawk and family defending themselves and escaping into nowhere and then showing it, not making up a lie and then telling the truth. Do you agree or do you think the begining should had went another way. 

Modifié par themonty72, 30 mai 2011 - 01:14 .

[Plaintiff]

Wha?

[Darker_than_black]

Eh...what are you saying exactly? That you did not like the "fake story" in the begining of the game? You do realise that it serves as a tutorial right? It is an indtroduction to the combat and dialouge system. It would be nice if it was skippable but it is only about two minutes long, I think we can live with it.

[TEWR]

I had no issue with playing the legend before the real story because most heroes are usually only remembered for the epic tales surrounding them. What do people think of when they hear Hercules? Son of Zeus and Alcmene and the one who did the Twelve Labors. But there's evidence to suggest he may have been a real person. Not as a demi-god but a real person.
 

I just wish I could've customized my Hawke before it. I mean granted I always play default Hawke but it's the principle of the matter. Anyway, here's my idea for how the beginning should've been after Varric tells Cassandra the legendary version of Hawke.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

here's an idea for how the beginning should have been.

You are Hawke, a simple Lothering villager doing what comes naturally. Walking around the village, helping your neighbors with a few simple tasks. Then you receive a notice that the army is heading out to Ostagar, and your brother (and you if you're a warrior or rogue) heads off to the forgotten fortress to meet the Darkspawn. Upon arriving at the fortress, you converse with Carver and a female soldier. Her hair is a fiery ginger, but she is no simple woman. She is a woman you do not want to make angry. However, she is called away by her commanding officer and introductions are cut short. You then turn to see a man standing tall and proud in his silver cuirass. He's sporting a beard to be proud of and conversing with four other men. After they leave, he walks up to you and starts talking to you, because... well let's be honest, he has to pass the time until they get back. He introduces himself as Duncan of the Grey Wardens. You converse with him and respect him for what he says. Afterwards, he bids you farewell and awaits for his recruits to return.

The battle begins not long after they return....

As a warrior or rogue, it jumps ahead to the moment of truth when the battle starts. You and your brother lead a full squad of Lothering soldiers against the Darkspawn, awaiting the moment when the Tower Beacon is lit. Cutting down Hurlock after Hurlock, you look up to see if the beacon has been lit. The flames have shot up into the sky, but no reinforcements are coming. Your men are being savagely cut down in front of your eyes, and it's all you can do to keep from sharing their fate. You tell your brother that you have to get out because all is lost, but Carver refuses saying that he would rather die a soldier than desert the others.

Then you remind him that if you both die, so too will Bethany and your Mother. He knows you are right, and while disliking the idea of desertion, he knows that the family takes precedence. Before you turn away from the field however, you see Cailan killed gruesomely by the Ogre, Duncan avenging Cailan's death, but see Duncan fall to his knees. Duncan knows he won't survive, and you want to help him. Why you want to help him above everyone else on the field you don't know, but it may be due to the respect you feel the Wardens deserve. But there is nothing you can do, as Carver holds you back to keep you from rushing headlong to your death.

And so you run away to Lothering to get your family out of the impending danger....

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*If you're a Mage*

(everything up until Carver leaves is the same.)

You tell Bethany not to fret about Carver, as he's not going to let some tainted creature kill him. He'd never forgive himself if he did. She says you're right and you go about your business. Then, overhearing two Templars, they say their scouts have reported some Darkspawn stragglers breaking away from the main body of the horde. Their destination? En route to Lothering. The two Templars prepare to move out to take on the Darkspawn with a squad of other Templars.

You and your sister however, know that your magic will prove far better to dealing with them. So off you go to meet the horde. Upon arriving at a suitable destination, you hear both the Templars and the Darkspawn moving closer in. You know if the Templars find you you'll be taken to the Circle, so you head up to the nearest cliffside hill for a better vantage point. It provides great cover from the line of sight of the Templars and will help greatly in eliminating the stragglers.

As your last fireball scorches the final Hurlock, the Templars shout out "A mage?! Show yourself, by order of the Templars! The Order Dictates!"

You both stay hidden. Maybe the Templars should've been left to their fate, as you both hate the Templars and the Circle with a passion. But if they had died, the Darkspawn would've been left unchecked. It doesn't matter. What's done is done, and you sneak away into the bushes to return home.

As you return home however, you see Carver out of breath and your mother trembling. All is not well....

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 30 mai 2011 - 01:41 .

[themonty72]

To darker than black I'm saying beginning of Dragon age 2 should of had more back bone to it. Read what the Etheral writer redux just wrote any of those would do.

Modifié par themonty72, 30 mai 2011 - 01:45 .

[TEWR]

I mean I'd like to do a few quests in Lothering before heading off to Ostagar. Maybe something for Old Man Barlin the poison fanatic. Maybe a hunting quest. Just a few villager type quests.

[themonty72]

To Ethereal Writer The Redux I dig your beginning maybe Bioware should hired you for DA2 begining

[TEWR]

lol If they made that offer I'd accept without a second thought. Sadly it won't happen T_T

[TJPags]

Meh, while the opening could have been different and perhaps better, I have no problem with it as it is.

[themonty72]

...should of broken 3 different stories for each class or two as THE ETHERAL WRITER REDUX did.

[TEWR]

If I sat down and really put some time and effort into it I probably could come up with 2 different versions of the game depending on which class you took. That little bit I posted here only took me about 10-15 minutes when I thought of it.

[Sajuro]

I think the beginning was a fun way to see what your class is capable of at a decent level without the need to strip them of their powers, which would have been much complained about being set back to level one, and I don't know why a level 1 character would be in the army at Ostagar (Avaline is excusable for gameplay purposes). Besides it wouldn't be fun to play 'try not to get mobbed by darkspawn and murdered' since Ostagar wasn't the Dark Spawn stragglers but they were the Horde (minus the Archdemon)

[dragonflight288]

Nice. I'm going to try and come up with three different storylines based off of the classes. Hmm.

Warrior and Rogue-

Hawke and his/her siblings are going around Lothering, doing good deeds. Maybe flirting with Peach (from Carver's letter in Act 1) or Ser Bryant. Doing an odd quest from the Chanter's board. The bann rides into town and announces that King Cailan is calling on the armies of Ferelden to go and fight the Blight. Hawke and Carver discuss this with Bethany and Leandra and come to the conclusion that if the army fights and loses at Ostagar, the family's fate is sealed. So Hawke and Carver go to enlist in the army.

Once they arrive at Ostagar, Warrrior and Rogue class changes what happens.

Warrior: Hawke and Carver are put under the command of Captain Varel. They are squadmates under Lieutenant Aveline (whe mentions she was an officer in Act 3 when she talks about officers being given their spots back in Ferelden's army). They are given a couple of quests in order to prepare for the battle. During this time, they meet Duncan and maybe his recruits. Duncan tells the two of them what to expect when fighting Darkspawn, particularly the emissaries and their magic. Hawke and Carver both shudder at the thought of facing the very same thing they had been protecting their whole lives.

Then comes the battle as the two of them fight alongside the King's men. Hawke or Carver shouts out that the beacon has been lit, and the hoped for reinforcements....never show. Hawke and Carver quickly find themselves outnumbered and overrun as the men and women around them fall to the darkspawn. They see King Cailan and Duncan die. Thinking of Bethany and Leandra, the two of them flee the battle and head back to Lothering.

Rogue: Hawke is put under the command of Fergus Cousland, and is part of the scouting party into the wilds. They fight scattered darkspawn here and there, before coming across a Chasind tribe being overwhelmed by the darkspawn. These darkspawn are tougher and have an emissary with them. And they are close to the main body of the Horde. Most of the men fall as Fergus and Hawke valiantly defend the Chasind. Fergus is badly wounded but is taken by the Chasind for healing. He tasks Hawke with returning to camp and warning the King how close the darkspawn are.

On the way back, Hawke runs into Morrigan, and after a short, and snide conversation which makes Hawke feel stupid, (s)he is given directions for the fastest route back to camp.

Hawke arrives back shortly before the battle and runs into Duncan. Duncan, who is waiting for his recruits, is curious about how close the darkspawn are and what types are there. He seems interested in Hawke as a candidate for the wardens after his skill in fighting them alongside Fergus, but has no time to recruit Hawke at present. They make plans to discuss things after the battle.

Hawke reports to Teyrn Loghain and Cailan about the darkspawn and what happened to their scouting party (with one person being badly wounded shortly after entering the wilds, for the Wardens to find). (S)he reports that (s)he has seen no sign of the archdemon.

Hawke is relieved of duty for the evening and watches the battle from the hill. After the beacon lights up, and (s)he hears Loghain order the retreat, Hawke rushes down to the field to find Carver, when they both escape to find their family.

Mage: After Carver enlists in the army and leaves, Hawke takes up the job of bounty hunter and/or guard for Lothering and fights bandits and wild animals while they await news from Ostagar. Maybe have a small relationship with a villager. Sees the Warden and company from a distance, but is far too busy dealing with issues with refugees and bandits, as (s)he is pretty much Lothering's only acting guard force in town.

The family is desperate to hear any news from Carver, especially after hearing Loghain blame the Grey Wardens for the massacre. Bethany and Hawke are on a hill overlooking the wilds when the darkspawn come. The two of them are fighting for their lives while Leandra hurridly packs whatever she can so they can leave. Which isn't much.

As Hawke and Bethany are being overwhelmed, Carver comes in and saves their lives. He reveals the truth of Ostagar and the family drop everything and run, barely escaping with their lives.

...thoughts?

[themonty72]

I like it..just wish more people was on this topic. I guess most is not good at making stories . I think Bioware should gave stories for each class since they abandoned different races. The game would have been better.

Modifié par themonty72, 01 juin 2011 - 03:22 .

[LobselVith8]

I thought it was really good, dragonflight288. It would have allowed us to establish a connection to Hawke's family. I'm glad themonty72 made this thread.

[dragonflight288]

Makes sense.  And if Hawke were a warrior or a rogue?

Modifié par dragonflight288, 01 juin 2011 - 02:23 .

[dragonflight288]

Hawke is the eldest. And it's pretty much stated in-game that if Hawke was a rogue or a warrior, they went to Ostagar.

[Aesieru]

I don't think the Templars should be hated... they are just doing their job after all.

Do you hate the FBI in all ways for the rest of your life just because they bust you for illegal gun ownership... because that's part of their job..

Err replace that with the ATF if you like.

[thesilverlinedviking]

All the intro really needs is to add some emotional attachment to your bro/sis. Then you probably wouldn't laugh as they're smashed repeatedly by an Ogre with down syndrome.

[LobselVith8]

Aesieru wrote...

I don't think the Templars should be hated... they are just doing their job after all.

Which is the subjugation of hundreds of men, women, and children because they were born with magical ability, and following orders of genocide during the Right of Annulment.

[Giggles_Manically]

Or protecting tens of thousands of people from incidents like say:
REDCLIFFE

[Icinix]

I wanted it to start with Hawkes Conception...