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you be trolling. Quarians attempted Genocide and failed but take no responsibility. they're wrong and theyr'e sore losers, deal with it.Image IPB


Oh, the irony.

Maybe we should talk about how Ashley's career somehow advanced enough during two years for her to become a Spectre, even if she has little no advanced training or special traits. :whistle:

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Her family got a bad rep because of what the turians did during FCW. Boo-hoo.

The quarians don't have a homeworld because they fail at combat, boo hoo. doesn't give Tali a right to hate Legion despite never having done anything to her or from confronting him when he tries to tell his people what has been done to them by her father. yet she gets a free pass for being clearly racist. Ashley on the other hand is a pessimist (which an optimist calls a realist) and can articulate her feelings towars Aliens which is that they'll ditch us to save their skins which is completely true. They didn't help us after eden prime and theya ren't heloing us during ME2 when our colonies are getting jacked by the collectors. Tali's "the geth are horrible" schtick falls apart when Legion shows up and says something along the lines of "hold up we aren't all bad, the majority of us want to defeat the reapers and don't even aht ethe quarians we're waiting for them to come home since we cleaned everything up after the war, but they don't wanna come back they just wanna fight". Ashley's not racist, she's just a debbie downer about how aliens trat humanityImage IPB

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TS;DR.

Butthurt, much?

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Someone With Mass wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
you be trolling. Quarians attempted Genocide and failed but take no responsibility. they're wrong and theyr'e sore losers, deal with it.Image IPB


Oh, the irony.

Maybe we should talk about how Ashley's career somehow advanced enough during two years for her to become a Spectre, even if she has little no advanced training or special traits. :whistle:

Her technical scores are outstanding and she has every certification you can get in the alliance in every weapon you can wieldin the alliance. putting that with saving the citadel and you've got a spectre resume right there.Image IPB

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Her technical scores are outstanding and she has every certification you can get in the alliance in every weapon you can wieldin the alliance. putting that with saving the citadel and you've got a spectre resume right there.Image IPB


Uh-huh. Sounds more like a brain dead grunt to me.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
Her technical scores are outstanding and she has every certification you can get in the alliance in every weapon you can wieldin the alliance. putting that with saving the citadel and you've got a spectre resume right there.Image IPB


Uh-huh. Sounds more like a brain dead grunt to me.

sounds like you're brain dead, she's spectre a damn fine one so:
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Most of the squadmates at least make generalisations about the other races, so maybe everyone's a little bit racist. I think the problem with Ashley is she makes remarks about specific people, people that a lot of fans like. Her not trusting Garrus seemed off to me, he worked for C-sec so to me he should be the most trustworthy of the alien crew members. Also she was just plain mean to Liara, but then shows concern for her when Benezia is killed. So I don't think she's racist but I can see how some people might think so.

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Her family got a bad rep because of what the turians did during FCW. Boo-hoo.


You clearly don't come from a military family. Honour is everything to an army brat. Carrying on the tradition of your parents and grandparents. Ashley and her dad are typical examples, serving with no expectation of recognition or reward. The turians started an illegal war against the humans on Shanxi, with the intention of making humanity a subservient species. (This is turian military doctrine, you'll find it in the codex. If they feel they are threatened by a species, they attack, destroy a high percentage of the population and make them a client race) Hell, some of the time I think Ashley isn't racist enough. The turian military prior to the Battle of the Citadel would have been a major threat to the Alliance.

Fortunately, thanks to Shepard, the turian fleet either got completely decimated by Sovereign, or humanity earned their respect by saving their butts.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Her family got a bad rep because of what the turians did during FCW. Boo-hoo.

The quarians don't have a homeworld because they fail at combat, boo hoo. doesn't give Tali a right to hate Legion despite never having done anything to her or from confronting him when he tries to tell his people what has been done to them by her father. yet she gets a free pass for being clearly racist. Ashley on the other hand is a pessimist (which an optimist calls a realist) and can articulate her feelings towars Aliens which is that they'll ditch us to save their skins which is completely true. They didn't help us after eden prime and theya ren't heloing us during ME2 when our colonies are getting jacked by the collectors. Tali's "the geth are horrible" schtick falls apart when Legion shows up and says something along the lines of "hold up we aren't all bad, the majority of us want to defeat the reapers and don't even aht ethe quarians we're waiting for them to come home since we cleaned everything up after the war, but they don't wanna come back they just wanna fight". Ashley's not racist, she's just a debbie downer about how aliens trat humanityImage IPB


AD, would like to move to Australia and take over my university's debating team?Image IPB

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sounds like you're brain dead, she's spectre a damn fine one so:
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That is all.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 31 mai 2011 - 11:51 .


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Made Nightwing wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Her family got a bad rep because of what the turians did during FCW. Boo-hoo.

The quarians don't have a homeworld because they fail at combat, boo hoo. doesn't give Tali a right to hate Legion despite never having done anything to her or from confronting him when he tries to tell his people what has been done to them by her father. yet she gets a free pass for being clearly racist. Ashley on the other hand is a pessimist (which an optimist calls a realist) and can articulate her feelings towars Aliens which is that they'll ditch us to save their skins which is completely true. They didn't help us after eden prime and theya ren't heloing us during ME2 when our colonies are getting jacked by the collectors. Tali's "the geth are horrible" schtick falls apart when Legion shows up and says something along the lines of "hold up we aren't all bad, the majority of us want to defeat the reapers and don't even aht ethe quarians we're waiting for them to come home since we cleaned everything up after the war, but they don't wanna come back they just wanna fight". Ashley's not racist, she's just a debbie downer about how aliens trat humanityImage IPB


AD, would like to move to Australia and take over my university's debating team?Image IPB

when I finish up my degree this year I'd be happy to!Image IPBImage IPB

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Fortunately, thanks to Shepard, the turian fleet either got completely decimated by Sovereign, or humanity earned their respect by saving their butts.


Except...that wasn't the turian fleet. It was the Citadel fleet.

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Also, the FCW was over thirty years ago. There's something called "moving on with your life"

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Also, the FCW was over thirty years ago. There's something called "moving on with your life"


Some people just can't let things go.

I've seen a lot of similar reactions on facebook during the Japanese tsunami.

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The quarians don't have a homeworld because they fail at combat, boo hoo. doesn't give Tali a right to hate Legion despite never having done anything to her or from confronting him when he tries to tell his people what has been done to them by her father. yet she gets a free pass for being clearly racist. Ashley on the other hand is a pessimist (which an optimist calls a realist) and can articulate her feelings towars Aliens which is that they'll ditch us to save their skins which is completely true. They didn't help us after eden prime and theya ren't heloing us during ME2 when our colonies are getting jacked by the collectors. Tali's "the geth are horrible" schtick falls apart when Legion shows up and says something along the lines of "hold up we aren't all bad, the majority of us want to defeat the reapers and don't even aht ethe quarians we're waiting for them to come home since we cleaned everything up after the war, but they don't wanna come back they just wanna fight". Ashley's not racist, she's just a debbie downer about how aliens trat humanityImage IPB


Too bad that I only read the first sentence to realize that you're so butthurt, you must go for the character hate. That's sad.

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Also, the FCW was over thirty years ago. There's something called "moving on with your life"

Mouring war was ten times that but the Quarians are still mad about that. where's "moving on with your lives" there?Image IPB

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Mouring war was ten times that but the Quarians are still mad about that. where's "moving on with your lives" there?Image IPB


The Mouring war? What's that?

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ADLegend21 wrote...
The quarians don't have a homeworld because they fail at combat, boo hoo. doesn't give Tali a right to hate Legion despite never having done anything to her or from confronting him when he tries to tell his people what has been done to them by her father. yet she gets a free pass for being clearly racist. Ashley on the other hand is a pessimist (which an optimist calls a realist) and can articulate her feelings towars Aliens which is that they'll ditch us to save their skins which is completely true. They didn't help us after eden prime and theya ren't heloing us during ME2 when our colonies are getting jacked by the collectors. Tali's "the geth are horrible" schtick falls apart when Legion shows up and says something along the lines of "hold up we aren't all bad, the majority of us want to defeat the reapers and don't even aht ethe quarians we're waiting for them to come home since we cleaned everything up after the war, but they don't wanna come back they just wanna fight". Ashley's not racist, she's just a debbie downer about how aliens trat humanityImage IPB


Too bad that I only read the first sentence to realize that you're so butthurt, you must go for the character hate. That's sad.

Oh stop. you can't find the material to formulate your rebuttal so you go for a character attack, which is against forum rules and against decent debate practices, trolling reported.Image IPB

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Oh stop. you can't find the material to formulate your rebuttal so you go for a character attack, which is against forum rules and against decent debate practices, trolling reported.Image IPB


Oh, so we're going for hypocrisy too? That's funny. Reported.

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Mouring war was ten times that but the Quarians are still mad about that. where's "moving on with your lives" there?Image IPB


The Mouring war? What's that?

you know exactly what I'm talking about, you're just not willing to admit it so you play the ignorant game,w e're done here
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Mouring war was ten times that but the Quarians are still mad about that. where's "moving on with your lives" there?Image IPB


Of course they're pissed. They lost all dear to them.

Humanity lost less than a thousand lives and they didn't lose a world. There's really no reason to hold a grudge for that.

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you know exactly what I'm talking about, you're just not willing to admit it so you play the ignorant game,w e're done here
/debate


At least they have a valid reason to not get over it. Ashley's whining is just pathetic.

It's on the same level as when Shepard is talking to Wrex about how the turians almost wiped out the human race. It's the weakest argument in the galaxy.

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I personally think it's amusing that Ashley isn't more pissed at humans or the Alliance than she is. They've been screwing her over since before she became a marine, and if the rumors are true that she's a Spectre in ME3, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the Alliance is gonna keep a tighter leash on her than they did on Shepard, probably making her their personal errand girl.

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Also, the FCW was over thirty years ago. There's something called "moving on with your life"


My grandfather suffered terrible wounds in hand to hand combat with Japanese forces in Borneo during WWII. He suffered constant pain for the rest of his life. Some wounds don't close.

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My grandfather suffered terrible wounds in hand to hand combat with Japanese forces in Borneo during WWII. He suffered constant pain for the rest of his life. Some wounds don't close.

Does he not like Japanese people?